With 160 minutes it seems that a second part would feel extremely excessive.
Maybe they actually condensed the original idea of two into one film.
Posted 09 September 2015 - 09:18 AM
With 160 minutes it seems that a second part would feel extremely excessive.
Maybe they actually condensed the original idea of two into one film.
Posted 09 September 2015 - 09:35 AM
Posted 09 September 2015 - 11:05 AM
Posted 09 September 2015 - 03:08 PM
With 160 minutes it seems that a second part would feel extremely excessive.
Maybe they actually condensed the original idea of two into one film.
That makes sense. Plus it would certainly be safer to do just one long film rather than two shorter ones.
The more you look at how long SPECTRE is likely to be, the more you wonder if it was originally based on an outline for two films, which have been condensed into one.
The first with Bond on the trail of SPECTRE, the second a final confrontation with its leader. Perhaps they decided the whole thing could be done in one longer than average Bond movie.
Which makes me wonder if we will get the long speculated - on this site at least - "Garden of Death" scenario for Bond 25? If the leader of SPECTRE, Oberhauser or whoever, does his monologue justifying, say, what happened in the previous three films - much like Blofeld justifying his crimes in the novel "You Only Live Twice" - then this probably wouldn't figure in Bond 25.
I'm hoping we get a return of the SPECTRE syndicate in "25" and possibly the YOLT original storyline, with or without the death of someone close to Bond as motivator. Oberhauser/Blofeld, having maybe survived, could be sprung from custody and it's Bond task simply to track him down, which he does, finding him in that garden.
But another scenario springs to mind. Oberhauser/Blofeld ends the current movie in custody - and the next film has his organisation, or what's left of it, holding the west, or the world, to ransom in some way (terrorist activity, hostage taking, whatever) - and the ransom demanded is the unconditional release, and a full pardon for, a certain Very Important Prisoner. ;-)
Nice idea Guy. Or you could even have SPECTRE break Blofeld out of prison/custody and Bond is sent to track him down.
Posted 09 September 2015 - 03:29 PM
Relatively little of Logan's initial idea is still remaining, broadly speaking. I don't think he would recognise much of what he originally put down on paper.
Interesting. What might his initial idea have been...
Posted 09 September 2015 - 03:43 PM
Posted 25 October 2015 - 01:47 PM
Posted 25 October 2015 - 01:58 PM
Or... all four ideas rolled into one
Without having seen SPECTRE yet, I would love the next film to go to locations that have not been visited by Craig-Bond yet. And some "Thunderball"-like beach/sea-action would be welcome (more than Casino Royale). Going to Japan, Australia, Canada or Africa?
Posted 25 October 2015 - 02:47 PM
Posted 25 October 2015 - 02:55 PM
It has the most beautiful locations, darling.
Posted 25 October 2015 - 03:44 PM
4) Craig's Bond taking on his equal on the side of the devil, as with Moore's Bond and Scaramanga. Only with Craig's Bond having to stop an assassination attempt rather than persuing an assassin who luxuriates in villainy and wealth like the film Scaramanga, good though he was. That would be another "race against time" scenario.
I feel like we kind of saw this in the Craig era with Silva.
Posted 25 October 2015 - 04:12 PM
Or... all four ideas rolled into one
Without having seen SPECTRE yet, I would love the next film to go to locations that have not been visited by Craig-Bond yet. And some "Thunderball"-like beach/sea-action would be welcome (more than Casino Royale). Going to Japan, Australia, Canada or Africa?
4) Craig's Bond taking on his equal on the side of the devil, as with Moore's Bond and Scaramanga. Only with Craig's Bond having to stop an assassination attempt rather than persuing an assassin who luxuriates in villainy and wealth like the film Scaramanga, good though he was. That would be another "race against time" scenario.
I feel like we kind of saw this in the Craig era with Silva.
Posted 25 October 2015 - 04:17 PM
It has the most beautiful locations, darling.
Posted 25 October 2015 - 04:31 PM
It has the most beautiful locations, darling.
Nothing screamed Bond when I went there.
Good. That would be very distracting, wouldn´ it?
Posted 25 October 2015 - 05:09 PM
but a better story.It has the most beautiful locations, darling.
Nothing screamed Bond when I went there.
Good. That would be very distracting, wouldn´ it?
Posted 25 October 2015 - 05:27 PM
Do you guys seriously think Craig, or the crew, can shoot two films over 18 months continuisly?
2 parters are usually just one film cut in half. They are mostly made to that people double pay the tickets. Imagine Skyfall playing over 4 hours 30 and you will get the idea.
Posted 26 October 2015 - 12:20 AM
re: Canada
It has the most beautiful locations, darling.
Nothing screamed Bond when I went there.
Oh, well, that's settled then.
Posted 26 October 2015 - 01:41 AM
about as exciting as Bond in Kansas.re: Canada
Oh, well, that's settled then.It has the most beautiful locations, darling.
Nothing screamed Bond when I went there.
Posted 26 October 2015 - 03:35 AM
I take it you're not from Kansas.
Tell me, what part of the States are you in, and wouldn't that be just the BEST place for them to film?
Posted 26 October 2015 - 03:53 AM
In reference to the thread title question, if there ever were going to be a 2-parter (which I personally think will never happen) possible linking titles could be....
B25...BOND
B26...JAMES BOND
Oh, how I amuse myself so.
Posted 26 October 2015 - 09:07 PM
Posted 28 October 2015 - 03:39 PM
Posted 28 October 2015 - 06:35 PM
Having seen SPECTRE, I'd say it leaves the door open for either a sequel or a new story unconnected with anything before it. Just my view and I'll say no more about the film except that I think options have been left open - possibly with a new director and screenwriters in mind?
I think there is a perfect set up for a fifth and final one with Craig. PERFECT. I pretty much know exactly what the next story should be and how it could finish the arc for good.
Posted 28 October 2015 - 07:38 PM
I really hope they don't do the two-parter fad. To me it's never been done well yet. In fact, I kind of dread it. The Harry Potter two-parter was kind of embarrassing. I love getting a new installment each time and I don't see Bond scripts juicy enough to be 4 and a half hour epics. Especially Purvis and Wade scripts.
It's mainly that I have zero confidence that they would be great. If the first half isn't great, then it's already a double letdown. I'm just too nervous and too god-fearing to live in a world where I think they could pull it off.
I'm also not ready to live in a world where I have to decide whether it counts as one entry or two.
Finally, someone that makes some sense here…. The two-parter is the current trend right now, and it’s such a cheesy fad. It has worked for franchises like the Hunger Games, whose main core audience are almost only its fanbase, but not for the broader audience and level of quality to which the EON’s series aims.
Posted 28 October 2015 - 07:55 PM
Posted 28 October 2015 - 08:00 PM
No two parter please. That was an awful trend that Harry Potter started and would literally be done to make more money. I agree that Spectre seems to be the result of a two part story condensed into one overly long film. I think the film definitely leaves you to think that maybe the story isn't over, but I could also see it being the swansong (pun intended) of the Craig era.
Posted 28 October 2015 - 08:12 PM
No two parter please. That was an awful trend that Harry Potter started and would literally be done to make more money. I agree that Spectre seems to be the result of a two part story condensed into one overly long film. I think the film definitely leaves you to think that maybe the story isn't over, but I could also see it being the swansong (pun intended) of the Craig era.
I agree. In fact, one of the things that more annoy me about QOS, is the intention to make, in this case- a fabricated after the success of CR, (artificial) almost two-parter.
Posted 28 October 2015 - 08:34 PM
No two parter please. That was an awful trend that Harry Potter started and would literally be done to make more money. I agree that Spectre seems to be the result of a two part story condensed into one overly long film. I think the film definitely leaves you to think that maybe the story isn't over, but I could also see it being the swansong (pun intended) of the Craig era.
I agree. In fact, one the things that more annoy me about QOS, is the intention to make, in this case- a fabricated after the success of CR, (artificial) almost two-parter.
I think Broccoli and Wilson realized what a problem that turned out to be too. Granted, QoS was really hurt by the writer's strike and a rushed production. Oh how I still yearn for that 2009 release date. Alas, if we do see another two-parter in the Bond canon, I'd rather they go the Star Wars route with it. Focus on one film, release it, then create the next. If the story takes 3 more years to complete, so be it. It'll be a better film at least.
Posted 30 October 2015 - 08:09 AM
After watching 'SPECTRE' 3 times now I think, if anything, this will be a very firm two-parter to tie up the Craig era.
I am ready for Craig to leave the role now; he's done wonders, but his Bond is in danger of becoming very stale in the respect of every film more or less makes things personal, and edges into rogue agent status all the time. I think it's time for his heavy drinking brute to come to an end now, and to make way for a slight return to form in a James Bond motivated by duty and danger, not just his heart which is going to get boring, dare I say.
I'm willing to bet that he will beg Mendes to return on the basis Bond25 will tie up events laid out in 'SPECTRE' and be the final Craig Bond film and the last Mendes film. A solid partnership with respect and trust in each other to openly deliver their finale.
Posted 30 October 2015 - 08:58 AM
After watching 'SPECTRE' 3 times now I think, if anything, this will be a very firm two-parter to tie up the Craig era.
I am ready for Craig to leave the role now; he's done wonders, but his Bond is in danger of becoming very stale in the respect of every film more or less makes things personal, and edges into rogue agent status all the time. I think it's time for his heavy drinking brute to come to an end now, and to make way for a slight return to form in a James Bond motivated by duty and danger, not just his heart which is going to get boring, dare I say.
I'm willing to bet that he will beg Mendes to return on the basis Bond25 will tie up events laid out in 'SPECTRE' and be the final Craig Bond film and the last Mendes film. A solid partnership with respect and trust in each other to openly deliver their finale.