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#1 Vauxhall

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Posted 21 July 2015 - 09:09 AM

When the time comes, please keep spoilers to this thread.

22 hours to go... :)

#2 antovolk

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 07:01 AM



#3 007jamesbond

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 07:06 AM

very exciting.....it seem like Bond disobey orders again! 



#4 Vauxhall

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 07:06 AM

Far more action there than I was expecting, and great to see such a variety of scenes. More coherent thoughts to follow, but boy, I'm excited!



#5 Tiin007

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 07:07 AM

Madeline Swann: "Is this really what you want? Living in the shadows? Hunting? Being hunted? Always alone?"

 

A little TOO reminiscent of Vesper questioning why Bond does what he does, no? I don't want this to feel like a rehash of the Bond-Vesper relationship. 

 

Oberhauser: "You came across me so many times, yet you never saw me... It was me, James. The author of all your pain."

 

And it seems like my biggest fear about SP has been realized-- emboldened by Skyfall, EON has decided to make SP even MORE personal. Sounds way too convoluted to me. I really wish Bond was on a normal mission this time.



#6 Vauxhall

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 07:12 AM

Just noticed Christoph Waltz's style of jacket. Big clue. Maybe.

 

Also, great to see Bond's white dinner jacket in action. 

 

Using the OHMSS theme is bound to get a lot of people excited too! Hope it makes it into the film too.


Edited by Vauxhall, 22 July 2015 - 07:21 AM.


#7 PPK_19

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 07:13 AM

^ Me too. But it's a staple of Craig's Bond films. He is a more human Bond, so the storyline is more personal. But who cares? Trailer looked amazing! Lots of "orange" scenes...

#8 univex

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 07:16 AM

The music, damn it, it was awesome! OHMSS theme all over. Fantastic. I hope it´s a sign of what´s in the film itself. About the film. Epic, it seems. Daniel seems very much at ease playing Bond. Cinematography looks excellent. White dinner jacket! And there were a couple of SPECTRE scenes which looked like they were taken from a 60s film. Love everything I´m seeing so far.


 

Using the 007 theme is bound to get a lot of people excited too! Hope it makes it into the film too.

Is it? I thought it was at first. But then I´ve had another listen, and I think it´s the OHMSS theme. 



#9 Vauxhall

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 07:16 AM

Missed this first time around... Fiennes and Scott are grappling over a gun around 2:15 into it. Possibly in the London City Hall location.



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Posted 22 July 2015 - 07:17 AM

Indeed, this is the OHMSS theme. FYI from what I heard a few weeks back Newman himself recorded this just for the trailer - they threw a scoring session specifically for it.

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 07:17 AM

It seem like Bond is going rogue but I do hope M is backing Bond on this one or it a unauthorized mission.



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Posted 22 July 2015 - 07:20 AM

Looked great!

 

Notice there is seemingly a range of various Aston Martin models behind Bond and Q as he asks to "disappear" - and the DB5 poking out too? MI6 must had a good deal with them!

 

Craig looks on form, and great to see Waltz and his deliciously sly ways.

 

I admit the "personal" aspect of this isn't something I am dying to see, but the espionage looks really cranked up; very 'From Russia With Love'-esque for some reason; beautiful locations and lots of shadows and secrets.

 

:)



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Posted 22 July 2015 - 07:21 AM

 

Using the 007 theme is bound to get a lot of people excited too! Hope it makes it into the film too.

Is it? I thought it was at first. But then I´ve had another listen, and I think it´s the OHMSS theme. 

 

Scratch that, you´re right. 007 theme and OHMSS theme. How cool is that?

 

Mistake on my part, I think - unless you can actually hear it somewhere!

 

 

Indeed, this is the OHMSS theme. FYI from what I heard a few weeks back Newman himself recorded this just for the trailer - they threw a scoring session specifically for it.

 

Very exciting. That's buoyed me that it will indeed make it into the film in some form.


Edited by Vauxhall, 22 July 2015 - 07:23 AM.


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Posted 22 July 2015 - 07:23 AM

Did you see the name "Emma Pill" on the wall? More than a simple hommage to Diana Rigg.



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Posted 22 July 2015 - 07:26 AM

there must a reason for the OHMSS theme? I guess it a homage that SP is similar to OHMSS? 



#16 Guy Haines

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 07:26 AM

The music and the I think intentional cues from OHMSS. Christoph Waltz's jacket - reminiscent of Telly Savalas' one in OHMSS.

Definite nods and winks towards towards the first Bond movie I ever saw.


I know there are worries about a possible link between Bond and Oberhauser, but my impression on this viewing is they might just carry it off.

#17 univex

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 07:26 AM

 

 

Indeed, this is the OHMSS theme. FYI from what I heard a few weeks back Newman himself recorded this just for the trailer - they threw a scoring session specifically for it.

 

Very exciting. That's buoyed me that it will indeed make it into the film in some form.

 

 Oh yes, let´s hope it makes it into the film. It´s great!



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Posted 22 July 2015 - 07:28 AM

I not sure but Andrew Scott character seem to show he is bad on that scene in the trailer 



#19 Vauxhall

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 07:29 AM

Did you see the name "Emma Pill" on the wall? More than a simple hommage to Diana Rigg.

 

The names on the wall are various members of the SPECTRE crew.



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Posted 22 July 2015 - 07:31 AM

First impression: fantastic!  Despite the "rogue again"-angle this trailer indicates lots of fun, Craig´s delivery is much more relaxed than ever.  The mexico scenes look astonishingly washed out - but still impressive.  The use of OHMSS music is brilliant.



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Posted 22 July 2015 - 07:32 AM

Did you see the name "Emma Pill" on the wall? More than a simple hommage to Diana Rigg.

 

In what way?  Don't get that.



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Posted 22 July 2015 - 07:33 AM

I feel like that rouge angle is part of some operation set up to make other think he gone bad....could be use to flush out SPECTRE members 



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Posted 22 July 2015 - 07:34 AM

I see so much of 'From Russia With Love', 'Goldfinger' and 'OHMSS' already in this trailer. And these are the films that have a real sense of espionage - of great danger, of fear and threat, and I can't WAIT to see how it's handled with Craig going up against, I feel, his first MAJOR villain in Waltz who isn't just a rogue, or a freelancer or lacky..



#24 univex

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 07:40 AM

Anyone noticed the expression on Bond´s face when Hinx used the double barrel gun on his plane? Priceless. Humor abound. And was that M fighting at some point? Would explain the head wound we saw during production. I also found the Mexico scenes a bit washed out. Wasn´t it supposed to be colorful? Still, very impressive, like SAF said.



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Posted 22 July 2015 - 07:41 AM

Madeline Swann: "Is this really what you want? Living in the shadows? Hunting? Being hunted? Always alone?"

A little TOO reminiscent of Vesper questioning why Bond does what he does, no? I don't want this to feel like a rehash of the Bond-Vesper relationship.

Oberhauser: "You came across me so many times, yet you never saw me... It was me, James. The author of all your pain."

And it seems like my biggest fear about SP has been realized-- emboldened by Skyfall, EON has decided to make SP even MORE personal. Sounds way too convoluted to me. I really wish Bond was on a normal mission this time.

My feeling too.
The trailer is spectacular.
Some of the action scenes look fantastic (can t wait for the aston martin chase)
BUT I still have my doubt on the story.
An international organisation just to spoil Bond's life ? Come on...

#26 Vauxhall

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 07:41 AM

And was that M fighting at some point? Would explain the head wound we saw during production.

 

Yes, looks like he is trying to grab a gun off Andrew Scott's character. Very little of him in the trailer, but they're presenting him as a bad guy.



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Posted 22 July 2015 - 07:45 AM

Maybe 

Spoiler
 



#28 univex

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 07:45 AM

 

And was that M fighting at some point? Would explain the head wound we saw during production.

 

Yes, looks like he is trying to grab a gun off Andrew Scott's character. Very little of him in the trailer, but they're presenting him as a bad guy.

 

Interestingly, the trailer isn´t very revealing of the plot itself. Although it reveals almost immediately Scott´s character to be rotten.



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Posted 22 July 2015 - 07:45 AM

Waltz has to be blofeid with the other member of spectre standing up a sign he is high up. I think swan is the main bond girl and she could be a target of spectre know too much perphas

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 07:47 AM

Maybe 

Spoiler
 

Yes, probably. I´m fine with that. Wasn´t he a former something in the army, as said in SF? And M was probably gagging for it. Scott´s character is a bit annoying ;)