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[Cody]

Sony's presentation to theatre owners at CinemaCon included some footage from SPECTRE, and there are sure to be reports on what was shown popping up on several websites throughout the day.

 

They have already been posted on a handful:

 

Variety

 

Cinema Blend

 

ComicBook.com

 

IGN

[The Dove]

Thanks for posting Cody!

[thecasinoroyale]

'The Pale King'?? Ooh exciting.

 

Thanks for letting us know, and fingers crossed we may get some of this footage officially online soon!

[Shrublands]

It's interesting that in the shots we saw at the end of last year Bond was in a dressing gown watching Moneypenny from the window, but in the scene as described he is "out of his suit jacket but still wearing a shoulder holster."

[JCRendle]

It's interesting that in the shots we saw at the end of last year Bond was in a dressing gown watching Moneypenny from the window, but in the scene as described he is "out of his suit jacket but still wearing a shoulder holster."

 

You can see in the teaser that he's wearing the gown whilst talking to Moneypenny and looking through the box

[Shrublands]

 

It's interesting that in the shots we saw at the end of last year Bond was in a dressing gown watching Moneypenny from the window, but in the scene as described he is "out of his suit jacket but still wearing a shoulder holster."

 

You can see in the teaser that he's wearing the gown whilst talking to Moneypenny and looking through the box

 

 

Yes, curious that someone who has seen this scene would go out of their way to say Bond is "out of his suit jacket but still wearing a shoulder holster."

 

We do know that the scene was reshot from the clapperboards (8/12/14 then again on 10/3/15) and Mendes has said (more than once) that he does not care what they put in the trailers but don't expect him to use the same thing in the finished film. I think one of the changes made for the reshoot was Bond's dressing gown. We'll see. 

 

That said, we might get the dressing gown for a later scene where he looks through the box's contents. As described from yesterday's screening, that bit is not directly connected to the scene as shown.

[JCRendle]

It's interesting that in the shots we saw at the end of last year Bond was in a dressing gown watching Moneypenny from the window, but in the scene as described he is "out of his suit jacket but still wearing a shoulder holster."

You can see in the teaser that he's wearing the gown whilst talking to Moneypenny and looking through the box

Yes, curious that someone who has seen this scene would go out of their way to say Bond is "out of his suit jacket but still wearing a shoulder holster."
 
We do know that the scene was reshot from the clapperboards (8/12/14 then again on 10/3/15) and Mendes has said (more than once) that he does not care what they put in the trailers but don't expect him to use the same thing in the finished film. I think one of the changes made for the reshoot was Bond's dressing gown. We'll see. 
 
That said, we might get the dressing gown for a later scene where he looks through the Box's contents. As described from yesterday's screening that bit is not directly connected to the scene as shown.

Give them a chance to use a less photoshopped looking photograph.

[Shrublands]

 

 

 

It's interesting that in the shots we saw at the end of last year Bond was in a dressing gown watching Moneypenny from the window, but in the scene as described he is "out of his suit jacket but still wearing a shoulder holster."

You can see in the teaser that he's wearing the gown whilst talking to Moneypenny and looking through the box

 

Yes, curious that someone who has seen this scene would go out of their way to say Bond is "out of his suit jacket but still wearing a shoulder holster."
 
We do know that the scene was reshot from the clapperboards (8/12/14 then again on 10/3/15) and Mendes has said (more than once) that he does not care what they put in the trailers but don't expect him to use the same thing in the finished film. I think one of the changes made for the reshoot was Bond's dressing gown. We'll see. 
 
That said, we might get the dressing gown for a later scene where he looks through the Box's contents. As described from yesterday's screening that bit is not directly connected to the scene as shown.

 

Give them a chance to use a less photoshopped looking photograph.

 

 

That would be a big bonus. It does look dreadful in the trailer. 

[Vauxhall]

I agree. Sounds like the reshoot of that scene was to put Bond in shirt and shoulder holster, rather than the dressing gown. 

 

As Shrublands says, perhaps the dressing gown lives on when he's looking through the box of material slightly later on.

 

It also sounds like they got a first viewing of the next teaser trailer, featuring action from the Alps, and "Bond, James Bond"...

Edited by Vauxhall, 23 April 2015 - 11:41 AM.

[JCRendle]

I agree. Sounds like the reshoot of that scene was to put Bond in shirt and shoulder holster, rather than the dressing gown. 
 
As Shrublands says, perhaps the dressing gown lives on when he's looking through the box of material slightly later on.
 
It also sounds like they got a first viewing of the next teaser trailer, featuring action from the Alps, and "Bond, James Bond"...

But why reshoot the initial meeting at the flat, and leave the contents part in the gown?

[MadeleineSwann]

Surely the scene works better in the dressing gown? I think so anyway. 

[Shrublands]

 

I agree. Sounds like the reshoot of that scene was to put Bond in shirt and shoulder holster, rather than the dressing gown. 
 
As Shrublands says, perhaps the dressing gown lives on when he's looking through the box of material slightly later on.
 
It also sounds like they got a first viewing of the next teaser trailer, featuring action from the Alps, and "Bond, James Bond"...

But why reshoot the initial meeting at the flat, and leave the contents part in the gown?

 

 

From what I understand, the bit with Bond going through the stuff in the box is later or even the following night from when Moneypenny delivers it.

Perhaps they thought it punctuates the time change better if he is only in the gown for the scene that happens later. 

[Bryce (003)]

All very cool and I concur with the above. Also, I like the idea of seeing Bond in his new flat sans jacket and tie wearing his rig (probably with a scotch poured nearby) still not settled into his new digs. That's kind of iconic Bond look at home which evokes the novels. Also makes me think of one of the deleted scenes from LTK with Bond in his hotel room watching the newscast from Isthmus.

 

Now, I had a "man on the ground" at Cinemacon. We've been playing phone-tag, but I'll be talking to him later today. I'll report back, but one of his messages was that the footage felt "like 60's Bond" IHO.

 

Buzz was that the 2nd teaser will be in the first half of June and have "the serious action".

 

I'll report back later.

 

Overall though, this is VERY cool and that SPECTRE is all anyone is really talking about from the Con. 

[The Dove]

Excellent! And I'm glad that it's been confirmed that THE LINE will be in SPECTRE...I have never forgiven Marc Forster for cutting it out of Quantum of Solace..

[Cody]

A few more perspectives on the footage:

 

Entertainment Weekly

 

Empire

 

io9

[JCRendle]

Just a warning, the io9 link is particularly spoilery. Click at your own risk, it includes the spoiler other editorials have left out.

[The Dove]

Wow..that site did spoil a lot..and after Mendes recorded a video asking audience members NOT to spoil who was on the tape..(To be honest, I already figured out who it was on my own..)

[stromberg]

Wow..that site did spoil a lot..and after Mendes recorded a video asking audience members NOT to spoil who was on the tape..(To be honest, I already figured out who it was on my own..)

Didn't read the article, but I have an idea who's on the tape.

 

Guess someone just shot his own foot. That was it for future Sony press junkets and probably the entire chain of information.

[Shrublands]

The highly comical thing is, the fool says -  "I’m being deliberately vague for spoilery reasons".

​Then goes on to blow the biggest spoiler contained in the clip and the one he'd been specifically ask not to talk about.

[The Dove]

I just tweeted my congrats to io9 on their decision to completely ignore Sam Mendes' personal request NOT to reveal any spoilers..hah!!

[Odd Jobbies]

C'mon, i haven't read the io9 piece, but the 'big spoiler' is pretty obvious!  Who can send Bond on an assassination mission, but has to do it by pre-recorded message?  It's not exactly Mastermind!

 

I imagine Mendes is just attempting to plant a little intrigue by asking folk not to say who was doing a PTC on Bond's telly. But i bet he fully intends to make that clip a key feature of the full trailer.

[JCRendle]

I agree with you OJ, but some people are trying to stay spoiler free, so even an obvious hint would be too much for them.

[Call Billy Bob]

I agree with you OJ, but some people are trying to stay spoiler free, so even an obvious hint would be too much for them.

I feel that in today's climate, staying spoiler-free is too much damn work! Also, it's the exact opposite of, say, 15-20 years ago. You had to go out of your way to find out info before a film came out. Now, you have to try your hardest to keep away from all that. I know it's not everyone's cup o' tea, but I say embrace the spoilers! It's entirely less stressful

[Odd Jobbies]

I agree with you OJ, but some people are trying to stay spoiler free, so even an obvious hint would be too much for them.

But isn't this the 'spoiler' section? Honestly, the last thing i want to do is spoil anything! I hate spoilers with a passion, however it's great fun to hypothesise.

 

Either way, discussing what was shown to fans at Cinemacon and so will likely end up in a future trailer isn't a spoiler. The leaked script stuff, now that was definitely a spoiler and i've tried to steer clear as it reveals plot details that may well be kept back until it's release. But when material is shown to an audience of fans it's naive for Mendes to think it won't get out. I doubt Mendes is naive and therefore think it likely he doesn't really mind it getting out and will put it out there in trailer form himself in June.

 

Beside's i don't know conclusively if i'm right, just guessing from the huge clues i mentioned above.

[JCRendle]

 

I agree with you OJ, but some people are trying to stay spoiler free, so even an obvious hint would be too much for them.

But isn't this the 'spoiler' section?

 

It is, sorry I don't think what I meant came across how I meant it to. I'm finding it difficult to put what I actually meant tbh, as it makes sense in my head but I can't translate it. I think that some people, like yourself, enjoy hypothesizing, but draw the line at it being spelt out for them directly.

 

It's like someone saying "I have a feeling that [This, this and this] is going to happen, because these clues point to that" and someone, who has read the script saying, "Well, it's close, but it actually happens like this..." - it's taken the fun out of the hypothesis and speculation.

[Odd Jobbies]

 

 

I agree with you OJ, but some people are trying to stay spoiler free, so even an obvious hint would be too much for them.

But isn't this the 'spoiler' section?

 

It is, sorry I don't think what I meant came across how I meant it to. I'm finding it difficult to put what I actually meant tbh, as it makes sense in my head but I can't translate it. I think that some people, like yourself, enjoy hypothesizing, but draw the line at it being spelt out for them directly.

 

It's like someone saying "I have a feeling that [This, this and this] is going to happen, because these clues point to that" and someone, who has read the script saying, "Well, it's close, but it actually happens like this..." - it's taken the fun out of the hypothesis and speculation.

 

I agree absolutely, i'd rather not be told certainties.

[Call Billy Bob]

I agree absolutely, i'd rather not be told certainties.

Even though I would like to know anything and everything, I agree with what JCRendle was saying. For the majority of people here, we should only speculate and suggest - not confirm. No reason to upset anyone. Those, like myself, who wish to dig deeper can do that on our own time.

[Bryce (003)]

Mandes is a smart cookie. 

 

By asking those viewing this not to leak insures that someone will and he knows it (as do BB and MGW) to see what happens.

 

There's some great promotion in this inasmuch as it's almost throwing it in the face of the Sony hackers. I haven't gone to any of the links, but I've put the pieces together myself and it seems pretty clear whats about with this.

 

Bottom line : We're in for a treat.

[Odd Jobbies]

Mandes is a smart cookie. 

 

By asking those viewing this not to leak insures that someone will and he knows it (as do BB and MGW) to see what happens.

 

There's some great promotion in this inasmuch as it's almost throwing it in the face of the Sony hackers. I haven't gone to any of the links, but I've put the pieces together myself and it seems pretty clear whats about with this.

 

Bottom line : We're in for a treat.

Yep, he's no dummy - if he put the info on the screen it means they want it out there. By saying it's all hush-hush just makes the fans want it more - reverse psychology-marketing. Expect to see this reveal as the inciting incident at the top of the next trailer.

[Bryce (003)]

Indeed Odd Jobbies. Exactly that.

 

Well, finally caught up with my "inside man" who was there. He offered the full deal (he appreciates Bond and enjoys it, but not like the rest of us here) but I told him I didn't want to hear it. 

 

He said the Bond Moneypenny scene crackles with a hint of sexual tension but also truly reveals that Bond trusts her even above M. They do have a history now of course.  The action stuff is apparently epic (as he put it) "like they used to do. No CGI crap. For real!" and after the event all anyone/everyone was talking about was Bond.

 

This event was the best PR Eon could have hoped for and the next teaser trailer is going ram it home that "Bond IS Back".

 

Roll on November!