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#1 hilly

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 04:19 PM

Apologies if this one has been done before..

We can all speculate about the "biggies" of the hypothetical Bond world (Connery in OHMSS, Dalton in Goldeneye, a faithful film version of You Only Live Twice) and how they would have turned out, but does anyone have a list of their "wishes" for Bond films?

 

Some "I wish they had/hadnot" thoughts of mine

 

No slide whistle on the car roll in TMWTGG

Making Moonraker less of a blatant carbon copy of TSWLM

Not having Mr Wint squeal with pleasure as Bond grabs him between the legs at the end of DAF

Roger sailing off into the sunset at the end of Octopussy and calling it a day

"Surrender" by KD Lang being the main theme song for Tomorrow Never Dies

John Cleese declining the role of R/Q

 

 



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Posted 08 May 2014 - 04:50 PM

A big "if only" that I've always enjoyed considering was what they could have possibly done with a Bond film like Licence to Kill, except with Roger Moore in the lead. We've seen glimpses of his Bond being a cold-hearted bastard before, as there are such moments in Live and Let Die and The Man With the Golden Gun, as well as his kicking Locque off the cliff in For Your Eyes Only. I think it would have been interesting to see them built an entire film around those traits that Moore showed only rarely during his time in the role, and build it off a similar storyline of seeking revenge.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 05:43 PM

Off on my hobby horse again, but, Moonraker made as a film fairly faithful to the original novel, and preferably made during the Connery era in the 1960s. This is nothing against Roger Moore, who could also have played Bond in a more faithful adaptation I'm sure, but about the right time to have made the movie. A film of Moonraker made in the 1960s would have coincided with the space age, when rockets blasting off were never out of the news,  but also when memories were still fairly fresh amongst many of the Second World War. Plus the UK was still then (just!) a major player in aviation, so having a UK tycoon supporting a missile program wouldn't have seemed that fanciful.

 

The right time to have made such a film is important, I think, because leaving it any longer, say into the late 1970s when it finally happened, or even beyond that, made the villain's motives - revenge on Britain for defeating Germany - a bit stale. Plus in the 1960s another staple fare at the box office was the World War II movie.

 

I've just had a rather fanciful idea myself - imagine a movie of Moonraker made in 1965, to be released the year after, featuring Connery as 007, a leading young English actress as Gala Brand (Julie Christie? Diana Rigg?), and, well, if it wasn't for Red Grant I might have cast Robert Shaw as Sir Hugo Drax. Same basic storyline, but extra added topicality - Drax wants to make his mark by firing the missile on the same day as the 1966 World Cup Final (Of course we wouldn't have known then that the final would be England-v-Germany!)

 

"They think it's all over, Mr Bond. It is now!" ;)



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Posted 08 May 2014 - 07:45 PM

Brosnan having his own FYEO movie between DAD & CR, would have made sense to me.

 

Daltons " property of a lady" would have been nice, albeit for having another 007 movie in the series.

 

Ronin the movie with Robert de Niro would have made a brilliant 007 movie without to much changing the script.



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Posted 08 May 2014 - 10:04 PM

I love these 'what if' type threads, don't seem to get enough of everybody's ideas. I don't mind the slide whistle in TMWTGG to be honest. 

 

 

Mine has always been kind if plain, boring and change everyday;

 

1) Connery in OHMSS

2) Brosnan in TLD, LTK, 1991, GE-DAD. Sorry Dalton, that OR a 5th Brosnan film even if it was another off the wall over the top film.

 

- More consistency with the Felix's and Blofeld's. 

- More consistency with the current release dates.

- No Jack White in the QOS theme

 

DAD is probably the one I put the most thought into and probably the easiest to poke at. 

- The film falls apart for me when Bond discovers the DNA splicing center and then goes to the Ice Palace.

- Delete the diamond laser mine scene 

- Delete Halley Barry OR just re-cast everybody! Zao, Graves and Frost; use older actors to off set how Brosnan's age. Mr. Kil? Come on! 

- Delete the scene of Graves parachuting, use the union jack in the para-sailing stunt and play 'California Girls' like in AVTAK. At least they can try and pull it off as a joke. *Would love it if someone could edit that together, would make my day! 

- I would have liked them to use the HOTEL OF DOOM if they were going to be in North Korean... "The closest thing we have come to building the Death Star."



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Posted 09 May 2014 - 03:16 AM

Don't get me started...

 

Apart from the initial posts, there's also:

 

Sheriff Pepper in the Bangkok car chase;

So much of Moonraker that could have been toned down/made logical/explained (I have as much to say about that as SKYFALL had to say about DAD);

Some unfortunate editing in FYEO (specifically the bobsledders' reactions & the 'climactic' fight and helicopter approach);

Recasting key roles (including 007) in AVTAK;

Making LTK less nasty;

Fleshing out QoS & using Shirley Bassey's theme

 

That's all for now. I love the Bond films, but - like my children - I'd like to see them always be the best they can be.



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Posted 09 May 2014 - 07:49 AM

Using the instrumental version of Another Way to Die in Quantum of Solace as the songs not half bad if you get rid of the god-awful lyrics

Lazenby in Diamonds are Forever but still have Moore take over in Live and Let Die

Dalton in View to a Kill

The Broz's post-Goldeneye films actually being good

No slide whistle in Golden Gun

No Jaws falling in love in Moonraker



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Posted 09 May 2014 - 02:20 PM

I like the idea of having Lazenby in DAF. It would have been a great two part story with less camp, completing the storyline. I would have loved to see Lazenby get his revenge against Blofeld instead of Connery's (ohh I'm gonna use a crane to mess with his bathosub bullcrap.)

 

Make Jaws in Moonraker have the same menacing effect that he had in TSWLM. 

 

For as good as CR was, QOS should have been on a much larger scale instead of Bond battling a small time villain wanting to steal water. Should have been Bond discovering Quantum and taking it head on.

 

I understand Denise Richards was a hot commodity in the late 90's, but still a terrible miscast. Carlyle was underused, they had a great idea with a villain who felt no pain, but still lacked menacing effect that could have made TWINE better.

 

What if...... DAD's second half was completely different. Take out the ice dragster/surfing scene...ehh just rewrite the whole second half completely.  



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Posted 09 May 2014 - 09:22 PM

The problem with any of us Monday morning quarterbacks rewriting the scripts to our satisfaction ("I'm replaying the battle the way I would have fought it!") is that it may satisfy ourselves personally, but what if everyone else hated the changes?

 

Yes, there's a lot I would like to change about Moonraker, but I wasn't consulted and upon first viewing I liked it fine. It was only later - as I matured (a bit) - that I started to think "wait a minute..."

 

Having cut my teeth on DAF, I have a liking for some of the more fanciful stories, so I am one of those poor, misguided souls who actually likes DAD just the way it is.

 

If YOLT and MR can be considered classics, then there is hope that someday....



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Posted 17 May 2014 - 04:56 PM

Not having Mr Wint squeal with pleasure as Bond grabs him between the legs at the end of DAF

 

Hilly, I'm very happy to say that I can only think of three, and one of them is borrowed from you.
 
If only Tatiana hadn't said "no tea?" in FRWL
If only Michael Billington had played Bond in one of the films
 
If only Mr. Wint hadn't (as you say) squealed with pleasure, etc. etc.
 
Regarding this last, I felt that the whole conceit of gay assassins was a wasted opportunity in DAF. The characters are very amusing and well played by Smith and Glover - the movie is much better for their presence. For me, the opportunity was wasted because nothing interesting was made of their orientation. The only references I can remember are the handholding, Wint's jealousy of Tiffany (!?!), and the aforementioned squeal which was a despicable throwaway gag at best. I understand that nothing terribly provocative could have been depicated in a film of that era - perhaps less would have been more. Far more interesting was Silva's interrogation of Bond in SF. Bond's "what makes you think..." hint (rhetorical or no) is far more  intriguing and effective.
 
Sorry. Whinged on a bit.
 
Anyway, fun topic.
 
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Edited by Aziz Fekkesh, 17 May 2014 - 05:10 PM.


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Posted 17 May 2014 - 10:57 PM

If only:

 

-Peter Hunt had returned to direct FYEO and stuck around to do the remainder of the 80s films

-AVTAK concerned an aging Bond with a more age-appropriate leading-lady

-Paul Verhoeven and John McTiernan had directed Bond films in the late-80s-90s

-Dalton, Ken Adam and John Barry had been persuaded to return for GE

-George Macdonald Fraser had been the main writer on the series after MR, and had written the continuation novels, as well

-Tom Mankiewicz had been brought back to punch up the dialogue for the Brosnan films

-Clive Owen or Lewis Collins had an opportunity to take on the role

-Julie Christie, Faye Dunaway, Catherine Deneuve, Jacqueline Bisset, Virna Lisi, Charlotte Rampling, Natalie Wood had been cast in one of the 60s-70s films

-Jenny Agutter

-Catherine Zeta-Jones and Salma Hayek had been in one of the Brosnan films

-McClory had been able to make Warhead with Connery in the mid to late-70s



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Posted 24 May 2014 - 02:53 AM

Dalton cast much, much earlier than 1986 and they should have saved OHMSS for him. Not to knock Lazenby here, but I think Dalton would have made it absolutely fantastic.


Edited by dtuba, 24 May 2014 - 02:55 AM.


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Posted 24 May 2014 - 07:01 AM

Not so much an "if only", because I've nothing against the actual castings. But it would have been interesting to see how the following might have turned out:-

 

You Only Live Twice - Jan Werich as Blofeld. Suppose they had kept him on in the role. Benign looking needn't have meant a less than menacing performance.

 

OHMSS - Max Von Sydow as Blofeld. Mooted in Charles Helfenstein's "The Making Of On Her Majesty's Secret Service" - how would a younger Von Sydow have played the role years before NSNA?

 

Diamonds Are Forever - Gert Frobe as the villain playing Goldfinger's smarter twin brother.  "Auric was always a little bit retarded" was one line he would have had, allegedly.

 

The Man With The Golden Gun - I've read at least two accounts stating that Jack Palance was mooted for the Scaramanga role, and that the solar energy plot wouldn't have figured, in place of a simple storyline in which Bond would duel with Scaramanga.

 

The Spy Who Loved Me - Blofeld as the villain played by..... whoever. As I understand it, had it not been for the on going rights battle with Kevin McClory over remaking Thunderball, and ownership of the characters in it such as Blofeld, then it might have been the SPECTRE chief rather then Stromberg who Roger Moore's Bond might have taken on.

 

Moonraker - James Mason as Drax. He was offered the part, allegedly.

 

Octopussy - Faye Dunaway in the title role. Again there were press reports.

 

A View To A Kill - David Bowie as Zorin. 007 -v- "Ziggy Stardust"!

 

GoldenEye/Tomorrow Never Dies - Anthony Hopkins as the villain. Perhaps others can put me right about this one. I've read that Hopkins was offered the Carver role in TND, but also other accounts say he was also mooted for the lead villain in what was at first "Bond 17" when Timothy Dalton was still in the frame as 007. But was he still considered for the renegade "00" role in GE?



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Posted 24 May 2014 - 07:03 AM

Honestly I'd quite like to see Moore in OHMSS. I think he could have pulled that one off.



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Posted 24 May 2014 - 07:09 AM

I actually agree with you there. Except for the shock ending, OHMSS isn't a downbeat Bond film,  and the humour in Richard Maibaum's script - particularly the flirting with Blofeld's clinic patients - might have suited Moore. And, at the time, Roger Moore was branching out a bit to stretch his acting talents. OHMSS' love story and dramatic end would have been a challenge.



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Posted 24 May 2014 - 09:32 AM

Okay here goes for my little tweaks to the series I would have liked to have seen:

 

Dr. No -- If only they'd filmed the obstacle course and giant squid encounter. Also, I wish they would have waited to make the "blind" assassins' car explode until it was fully down the hill and not midway. They exploded it way too early in the film. I wish they had originally had M say MI6 in his briefing with Bond. It sounds silly/stupid with how it is currently said dubbed over what sounds like MI7. How could they have originally messed that up? Bond always worked with MI6.

 

From Russia With Love -- If only Bond would not have slapped Tatiana. Seemed a bit heavy-handed there (no pun intended). Also, every time I see Bond trap Rhoda's arm with the truck hood and pull his head back, I keep wanting him to slam it onto the hood to knock him out instead of just punching him. And I wish the filmmakers would have been able to keep all the "risque" stuff they'd filmed instead of having to cut it out for the sensors (i.e. Bond's talk with Grant and Bond's conversation with Tatiana on the Venice canal). The stuff they had to eliminate sounds like it was really good and would have really added to the film.

 

Goldfinger -- If only they would have remembered to replace the Aston Martin's sun visor for the close-up profile shots of Sean Connery. Ever since that was pointed out to me I can't help but notice their absence whenever I watch the film. I also wish they would have originally had Bond say "A few" instead of having to dub it over the word "Three" after having stopped the atomic bomb. It was clever of them to have the bomb stop on the number 007, however.

 

Thunderball -- If only the stuntman would have agreed to film the jetpack scene without a helmet. Bond would have looked so cool without the silly helmet. I wish the filmmakers would have remembered what Felix was wearing when he and Bond discovered the Vulcan. His pants/shorts change about every shot. There's also two different Thunderball versions out there with minor differences. My "perfect" Thunderball version would a mix from both--specifically these options: 1) Bond telling the shark "Now you can tell them about the one who got away." 2) Upon spotting a manta ray, Leiter mentions how rare it is to see one this far out to sea. 3) When Bond battles a SPECTRE frogman in the underwater cave, the "Chateau Flight" music is played. 4) As Largo is about to torture Domino, he says these words: "You've given me much pleasure Domino. IN return, unless you tell me how much Bond KNEW, I'll be forced to cause you GREAT pain." (The preferred version's difference is in CAPS) 5) During the underwater battle with the aquaparras and frogmen, the music is smooth and doesn't jump. 6) As Largo enters the Disco Volante from underneath as he tries to get away, there's a dramatic sound effect of the hatch closing. 7) As Largo reaches the Disco Volante bridge he says: "Come on, I'll take over. We've got away from them. We've still got one bomb aboard." (This line makes the most sense) 8) Kutze tells Domino that the bomb can't explode because he threw the arming device into the sea and she tells him she understands. 9) The end of the film concludes with Bond and Domino whisked away by plane to the strains of a Thunderball orchestration of the James Bond Theme.

 

You Only Live Twice -- If only Diamonds Are Forever would have been filmed in 1967 with the Spang brothers as the villains and putting YOLT after OHMSS where it is supposed to be and with George Lazenby returning for his second and last time as 007. As YOLT stands now, I wish Connery had put more effort into the role than he did as his charisma and enjoyment for Bond doesn't match anywhere near his previous efforts. I wish Bond would have sucker punched Hans first rather than the other way around. And while I like Donald Pleasence, I think a more intimidating Blofeld would have been better such as casting someone like Yul Brynner, Max von Sydow, Marlon Brando, or Laurence Olivier.

 

On Her Majesty's Secret Service -- If only they would not have dubbed George Lazenby during the Hilary Bray scenes. I also wish Switzerland would have had more snow during filming so the avalanche scene would have been even more spectacular. I also wish the costume designer had given Tracy a more beautiful and glamorous wedding dress. What we ended up with was a horrible see-through flower power hippie pantsuit. Yuck. It's got to be one of the worst, if not THE worst Bond girl outfit of the entire series.

 

Diamonds Are Forever -- As I said earlier, Diamonds and Twice should have been switched. That said, if only the filmmakers would have kept Plenty's scene returning to Bond's hotel room to get her clothes and discover Tiffany's address. It makes so much more sense to include it than to omit it as in the finished film. I also wish the filmmakers would have either remembered which two wheels Bond tilted onto in Las Vegas when they did the re-shoot of the Mustang leaving the alley or had just kept the original shot in the film. (All things considered I don't think the people watching the filming were all that distracting.) Bond should have gotten pissed off upon learning that he hadn't killed Blofeld at the beginning of the film. (I have no problem with his attitude in the PTS, but there's no anger at all from him upon Blofeld's reveal clear until the end of the picture, which is a big mistake. The anger and determination he had in the PTS should have returned.) I wish the filmmakers wouldn't have repeated themselves during the diamond smuggling pipeline narration. Couldn't they have lengthened the speech or taken out a few shots? I wish Tiffany's character wouldn't have changed over the course of the film. She starts out good but upon reaching the oil rig, she loses her street smarts and some of her appeal. I also would have liked to have seen the bathosub's door to have been open or ajar when we last see it, leaving open the possibility that Blofeld got out. As it stands now, you're not sure what happened to him, and if he had died, it would have been a stupid way to be killed and certainly not the proper ending for Blofeld/Bond's wife's murderer. Better that we know Blofeld escaped to fight Bond another day as in YOLT.

 

I'll stop there. I'll give my what ifs for the rest of the series later.



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Posted 24 May 2014 - 11:12 AM

Dr. No -- If only they'd filmed the obstacle course....

The movie misses this episode badly - it's addition would've put it right up there among the best, IMHO.

 

With the effects of the day i'm rather glad they didn't do the squid encounter - would be laughable now, but to end Dr No's mad reign under a pile of bird S*** (did i remember that correctly?) would've been delightful and far more cinematic than the half half-hearted 60s brawl.


Edited by Odd Jobbies, 24 May 2014 - 11:14 AM.


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Posted 24 May 2014 - 11:28 AM

I actually agree with you there. Except for the shock ending, OHMSS isn't a downbeat Bond film,  and the humour in Richard Maibaum's script - particularly the flirting with Blofeld's clinic patients - might have suited Moore. And, at the time, Roger Moore was branching out a bit to stretch his acting talents. OHMSS' love story and dramatic end would have been a challenge.


Exactly. Around the same time he was in The Man Who Haunted Himself, which showed he could actually act.

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Posted 24 May 2014 - 01:41 PM

-A different DAF. It's fun to watch when I view it as a standalone story, but it's just always strange to watch DAF after OHMSS and to think we are supposed to be watching the same film series and the same Bond/Blofeld characters. I would've liked to see Lazenby return for at least one more film and Peter Hunt as the director and I'm sure we actually would've got a proper follow-up to OHMSS.

 

-At least one more Dalton movie during the six year gap between LTK and Goldeneye. 

 

-A fifth Brosnan movie in 2004 before the reboot.



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Posted 24 May 2014 - 08:43 PM

I'm not a Dalton fan, but as long as it means missing no Brosnan Bond films, then by all means let him have the third film. I do admit it would have been very interesting to see how he did Bond with a different director. i think most people here agree that John Glen was not the right director for Dalton, tho' it'd be a shame to lose those great Glen action sequences.

 

And nope, I cannot see Moore in OHMSS.



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Posted 25 May 2014 - 12:01 AM

I've argued elsewhere on the site that when Dalton became Bond there should have been a change of team regarding screenwriting and direction. Dalton was pulling in one direction whilst the production team was used to something else, and it showed. Dalton appeared in two very good movies, but all the way through TLD and LTK the tension between the two different approaches to Bond was there, imho.



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Posted 25 May 2014 - 07:48 AM

I've argued elsewhere on the site that when Dalton became Bond there should have been a change of team regarding screenwriting and direction. Dalton was pulling in one direction whilst the production team was used to something else, and it showed.

Didn't Dalton say that everyone agreed they should go in a new direction, but then they'd turn up for work and find it hard to do things differently, they were all too stuck in ways - or words to that effect.

 

Must've been very frustrating for him and he was probably happy to finish rather than have that experience yet a third time. Just my thoughts, but he doesn't sound too bothered to have only done two.



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Posted 26 May 2014 - 02:32 PM

 Posters have already covered a large number of my "if Onlies," so forgive me if I repeat a few.

 In Dr. No the screen behind Sean Connery as he is supposedly attempting to drive a Sunbeam Alpine convertible is so obviously fake, and I agree that he hearse driven by the henchmen explodes too early as it careens down the hillside. I would also like to excise Bond telling Quarrel to "fetch" his shoes.

 I wish Jack Lord, ego and all, had remained as Felix Leiter in all of Connery's 007 films. He would have been hugely better in Goldfinger and an improvement in Thunderball.

 While Claudine Auger is one my favorite "Bond Girls" I wish the rumors that Raquel Welch was considered as Domino had come true. Adding Raquel to Thunderball would have helped make it a terrific sendoff for Connery (it was the last 007 film in which he appeared interested, other than maybe Never Say Never Again).

 I would have then filmed On Her Majesty's Secret Service, followed by You Only Live Twice and then Diamonds Are Forver, getting the story in a proper order, with George Lazenby (or at least the same actor) in the trio of films, although I do like Guy Haines's suggestion to film Moonraker in the 1960s. Telly Savalas, Yul Brynner or Max Von Sydow would have played Blofeld in all three films, which would end with Blofeld's death by a properly vengeful 007.

 Tracy in OHMSS would be played by Natalie Wood. 

 No slide whistle in Man With The Golden Gun.

 Roger Moore bows out after Octopussy.

 Timothy Dalton does A View To A Kill, The Living Daylights and License To Kill.

 I like the suggestion of Rufus to cast Catherine Zeta-Jones or Salma Hayek in a film. Zeta-Jones might have been terrific in The World Is Not Enough in place of Denise Richards--goodness anyone would have been an improvement! Of course, TWINE needed a better script as well.

 Had she not made Austin Powers Elizabeth Hurley would have made a fine Bond Girl, at least in the less serious films. 

 Die Another Day would have never been filmed.



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Posted 26 May 2014 - 11:56 PM

 Zeta-Jones might have been terrific in The World Is Not Enough in place of Denise Richards--goodness anyone would have been an improvement!

Tanya Roberts?



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Posted 27 May 2014 - 12:11 AM

 

 Zeta-Jones might have been terrific in The World Is Not Enough in place of Denise Richards--goodness anyone would have been an improvement!

Tanya Roberts?

 

Halle Berry??

 

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 07:37 PM

2) Brosnan in TLD, LTK, 

 

I think if Brosnan was in The Living Daylights then Licence To Kill probably would not have been made. Until 2006's Casino Royale, The Living Daylights was the last Fleming title used meaning Licence To Kill (despite featuring a sequence from the Live And Let Die story and a character from The Hildebrant Rarity) was the first movie to not to have a Fleming originated title. 

 

So it was very much written for Timothy Dalton's strengths as an actor. If Pierce Brosnan was there - I'm sure the 16th Bond movie would have been an entirely different prospect. 



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Posted 22 June 2014 - 05:37 PM

If only Dalton did more Bond movies!! I wonder how that would have turned out. 



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Posted 22 June 2014 - 06:18 PM

Box office disaster in the US, as LTK's whole BO was equal to the Batman opening weekend.

 

Dalton was miscast in the eyes of the US audiences not much would have changed that.



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Posted 23 June 2014 - 09:44 AM

Box office disaster in the US, as LTK's whole BO was equal to the Batman opening weekend.

 

Dalton was miscast in the eyes of the US audiences not much would have changed that.

Craig  was miscast in the eyes of almost everyone.

 

But that changed because of Eon forking out for great writers, great directors and a solid commitment to a change in tone to something far more serious and gritty.

 

On both of his films Dalton  got the same old talent and crew that had been crafting light-comedy-Bond movies for the past 2 decades and a half hearted nod towards their being a literary source of the character.

 

Both Craig and Dalton are great actors, but Dalton got a bum deal. I'm sure if Cubby had flashed a bit more cash for better writers and directors and been as daring as his daughter has been in respecting the source material Dalton may well have been accepted by the US.

 

We'll never know.


Edited by Odd Jobbies, 23 June 2014 - 09:51 AM.


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Posted 23 June 2014 - 12:47 PM

 

Box office disaster in the US, as LTK's whole BO was equal to the Batman opening weekend.

 

Dalton was miscast in the eyes of the US audiences not much would have changed that.

Craig  was miscast in the eyes of almost everyone.

 

But that changed because of Eon forking out for great writers, great directors and a solid commitment to a change in tone to something far more serious and gritty.

 

On both of his films Dalton  got the same old talent and crew that had been crafting light-comedy-Bond movies for the past 2 decades and a half hearted nod towards their being a literary source of the character.

 

Both Craig and Dalton are great actors, but Dalton got a bum deal. I'm sure if Cubby had flashed a bit more cash for better writers and directors and been as daring as his daughter has been in respecting the source material Dalton may well have been accepted by the US.

 

We'll never know.

 

 

Talking Craig when it comes to Dalton makes no sense, the studio wanted Dalton out as they were more US orientated than they are these days and that is perhaps the biggest problem in the comparison a lot of changes in the industry have been made since the most important being that the US BO is no longer the most important.

 

You might like Dalton but as a leading star he is grossly overrated he has never been able to be the lead and succeed, He is a very good added actor as he has shown. Dalton was always a miscast for the role of 007. His first movie as 007 was far better suited for Moore or Brosnan and his 2nd was a bit of a mess frankly. It was nothing that Miami Vice had not already done and done better on any level. I dare to say that having re watched season 3-4-5 of MV and being surprised how strong and good that series was. LTK was a poor mans repeat of Miami Vice and should have steered clear from it far better to have taken the oriental drugs trade which would have made the movie visually more interesting.