Midshipman
Posted 25 January 2014 - 10:37 AM
apart from the Moonraker post-\Lucas bandwagon, or Blaxploitation stylings of live and Let Die, any more subtle ripping off.
the thing of M's bases in weird locales, eg sunken ships, monasteries, pyramids, all comes from Mother's bases in the Avengers.
Midshipman
Posted 25 January 2014 - 10:59 AM
LALD: Blaxploitation.
TMWTGG: Hong Kong cinema.
TSWLM: Films set in the sea became trendy in the late 70s after Jaws.
MR: Star Wars and Science Fiction of course.
Octopussy: Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Licence To Kill: Drug dealers as villains as seen in nearly every action film in the late 80s.
Tomorrow Never Dies: Same as Man With the Golden Gun, with Jackie Chan and other Hong Kong action films.
Craig films: Jason Bourne.
Good list. I would add these:
DAF: Bullitt. A car chase involving a Mustang in a famous American city.
FYEO: The comical car chase with the Citroen reminds me of ones from the Burt Reynolds car chase epic era. Roger Moore appeared in one of them(Cannonball Run) the same year FYEO was released.
DAD: XXX and The Matrix.
and possibly YOLT: In between the release of TB and YOLT there had been 2 Derek Flint films, 2 Matt Helm films, 1 Bulldog Drummond film and numerous other Bond knockoffs. Also, The Man From UNCLE had been a hit series since 1964. I figure EON was influenced to make a spy film that was more expensive and OTT than any of its cheaper imitators.
Sub-Lieutenant
Posted 26 January 2014 - 09:20 PM
QoS most certainly borrowed heavily from the Bourne formula including key personal of the previous Bourne movie, editor and stunt coordinator as 2nd/action director. Hence its proper name Quantum of Bourne
DAD did NOT borrow from xXx as both were shot at the same time and were released close to each other and the xXx was aimed at mostly a younger audience.
MI4 however did borrow from the Bondformula with brilliant actionscenes very well filmed, a wicked sense of humor, lacking in the Craig era.
DAF vs Bullit, I find the carchase in Bullit heavily overrated and those in DAF far better, even with that awefull mistake.
License to kill was too close to the popular and visual gamechanger of a televisionshow Miami Vice, only everything in Miami Vice had been done better and before. This Dalton vehicle always remains for me Miami Vice light.
TND did indeed finally take a grown up approuch towards the Hong Kong action movies and did indeed show how great that industry did become and used it well including the leading character.
CR final with the sinking house was heavily influenced by the idea the producers had kept from DAD, namely that a flipping OTT endsequence is preferable to a decent acted bit so hence the sinking house sequence that was unnecesary and added nothing to the changed direction of the Bondmovies, it was an immidiate step back.
MR did indeed lift upon the popularity of scifi then, for me the movie has nothing to do with SW or ST, it is sooner a remake of TSWLM but situated in space, and I prefer MR easily. A smart move by Broccoli imho to make the Bondmovies go for a popular genre and combining it with 007.
Commander
Posted 27 January 2014 - 01:20 AM
On the other hand, did you see the first episode of series 3 of Sherlock (The Empty Hearse)?
Skyfall all over again.
Midshipman
Posted 27 January 2014 - 02:42 AM
YOLT: Blofeld's volcano lair was inspired by a by a spy-spoof episode of The Flinstones.
Sub-Lieutenant
Posted 27 January 2014 - 03:34 AM
On the other hand, did you see the first episode of series 3 of Sherlock (The Empty Hearse)?
Skyfall all over again.
Not surprising given Steven Moffat and Mark Gatiss are huge Bond fans (and it is always great to have a Bond film be influencing parts of popular culture, and not the other way round.)
On the flip-side, Skyfall continued the 'villain who is captured, but it was all part of his plan' troupe that has been popping up alittle recently ever since The Dark Knight.
Lt. Commander
Posted 27 January 2014 - 03:58 AM
On the other hand, did you see the first episode of series 3 of Sherlock (The Empty Hearse)?
Skyfall all over again.
Not surprising given Steven Moffat and Mark Gatiss are huge Bond fans (and it is always great to have a Bond film be influencing parts of popular culture, and not the other way round.)
On the flip-side, Skyfall continued the 'villain who is captured, but it was all part of his plan' troupe that has been popping up alittle recently ever since The Dark Knight.
That's not the only part that was ripped from The Dark Knight. When Bruce asks Alfred to prepare the car, Alfred asks him if he means the batmobile. Bruce looks at him and goes, "it's the middle of the day, Alfred." Alfred then says, "the Lamborghini then? Much more subtle."
A similar exchange occurs between Bond and M when they switch from the company car (which, Bond points out, has a tracker) to the DB5. M then says: "I suppose this is totally inconspicuous."
Her line was almost verbatim taken from Alfred's, and the point is the same.
Midshipman
Posted 27 January 2014 - 05:59 PM
The glass prison cell that holds Dr. Evil in Austin Powers: Goldmember is awfully similar to Silva's cell in Skyfall.
Who's copying who now???
Edited by WhatMeWorry?, 27 January 2014 - 05:59 PM.
Sub-Lieutenant
Posted 27 January 2014 - 06:41 PM
The glass prison cell that holds Dr. Evil in Austin Powers: Goldmember is awfully similar to Silva's cell in Skyfall.
Who's copying who now???
I thought much more about Hannibal Lecter in Silence of the Lambs, and that movie was way before Austin Powers.
Midshipman
Posted 28 January 2014 - 08:44 AM
Doesn't MOonraker steal from "Kiss the girls and make them die"
Lt. Commander
Posted 28 January 2014 - 11:41 AM
Lieutenant
Posted 31 January 2014 - 08:19 PM
Skyfall stole loads from The Dark Knight.
which stole from Licence to Kill
Sub-Lieutenant
Posted 31 January 2014 - 08:36 PM
Skyfall stole loads from The Dark Knight.
which stole from Licence to Kill
which stole from Miami Vice
Commander
Posted 31 January 2014 - 09:10 PM
Skyfall stole loads from The Dark Knight.
which stole from Licence to Kill
which stole from Miami Vice
Which stole from Batman, which stole from Goldfinger - full circle.
Lieutenant
Posted 01 February 2014 - 09:26 AM
Saint mark: the carchase from DAF is better than the one from Bullit??!!
The one from DAF is a lot of fun, but no way a classic. The one from Bullit is legendary and one of the best (if not THE best) carchases ever filmed and with Steve McQueen himself behind the steering wheel (only the last stunt is done by a stuntman). It's very realistic filmed and with a great constructive tension.
Lieutenant
Posted 02 February 2014 - 12:19 PM
Doesn't MOonraker steal from "Kiss the girls and make them die"
Not quite. I think you mean "A Kiss A Day Keeps The Corpses Away" - although I'm not sure how many people are aware of the literary adventures of Kiss Darling.
Edited by chrisno1, 02 February 2014 - 12:20 PM.
Midshipman
Posted 02 February 2014 - 02:03 PM
NO, it's a 1968 James Bond knockoff starring MIke Connors.
Here's the plot.
"A Brazilian-based industrialist (Raf Vallone) plans to sterilize the human race through the use of his satellite and to personally repopulate the planet with beautiful women he has kidnapped and is holding insuspended animation".
Sub-Lieutenant
Posted 02 February 2014 - 03:23 PM
Saint mark: the carchase from DAF is better than the one from Bullit??!!
The one from DAF is a lot of fun, but no way a classic. The one from Bullit is legendary and one of the best (if not THE best) carchases ever filmed and with Steve McQueen himself behind the steering wheel (only the last stunt is done by a stuntman). It's very realistic filmed and with a great constructive tension.
I have the movie on dvd and while it is a decent chase it lacks the tension and greatness which can be seen in the carchases of RONIN & FRENCH CONNECTION.
It might have been considered a classic once but has been surpassed by quite a few better carchases, even THE GETAWAY has in my humble opinion a better chase in cars.
DAF for me has a better chase because it contains a lot more stuff that BULLITs chase, once again imho.
Lieutenant
Posted 02 February 2014 - 06:54 PM
Doesn't MOonraker steal from "Kiss the girls and make them die"
Not quite. I think you mean "A Kiss A Day Keeps The Corpses Away" - although I'm not sure how many people are aware of the literary adventures of Kiss Darling.
NO, it's a 1968 James Bond knockoff starring MIke Connors.
Here's the plot."A Brazilian-based industrialist (Raf Vallone) plans to sterilize the human race through the use of his satellite and to personally repopulate the planet with beautiful women he has kidnapped and is holding insuspended animation".
My apologies.
I have never been aware of this movie. I bit of research and I was raising eyebrows. It looks phenomenally similar, including set realization, location filming and madman's plotting. Have you seen it? The trailer on You Tube makes it look awful to dreadful.
My point about Kiss Darling was the insane plot. While the villain in your movie is out to turn the male population sterile, Drax in MR plans to wipe out the human race, which was the aim of Jessop in the novel. Curiously Jessop too had some links to the US space program, so it appears author James Yardley was ripping off this sixties movie as well !
Lt. Commander
Posted 04 February 2014 - 07:48 PM
FRWL - helicopter chase from North by Northwest
LALD - The French Connection milieu, location and story
TSWLM - Jaws, The Towering Inferno & The Poseidon Adventure
OHMSS - Where Eagles Dare, The Heroes of Telemark
YOLT - Operation Crossbow (climax)
Lt. Commander
Posted 05 February 2014 - 03:30 AM
I always felt GoldenEye ripped off the ejector seat escape sequence from Die Hard 2.
AVTAK's mine sequence is unoriginally similar to Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.
Lt. Commander
Posted 05 February 2014 - 11:28 AM
Not surprising given Steven Moffat and Mark Gatiss are huge Bond fans (and it is always great to have a Bond film be influencing parts of popular culture, and not the other way round.)
On the other hand, did you see the first episode of series 3 of Sherlock (The Empty Hearse)?
Skyfall all over again.
On the flip-side, Skyfall continued the 'villain who is captured, but it was all part of his plan' troupe that has been popping up alittle recently ever since The Dark Knight.
That's not the only part that was ripped from The Dark Knight. When Bruce asks Alfred to prepare the car, Alfred asks him if he means the batmobile. Bruce looks at him and goes, "it's the middle of the day, Alfred." Alfred then says, "the Lamborghini then? Much more subtle."
A similar exchange occurs between Bond and M when they switch from the company car (which, Bond points out, has a tracker) to the DB5. M then says: "I suppose this is totally inconspicuous."
Her line was almost verbatim taken from Alfred's, and the point is the same.
Commander
Posted 06 February 2014 - 02:37 PM
Zorin's goal in AVTAK to eliminate Silicon Valley is similar to Lex Luthor's plot to destroy California in Superman the Movie. Same idea, different methods.
This one isn't a rip-off, but I thought I'd mention it because I've never seen it told elsewhere. Before it went campy, Lost in Space was more serious in its early episodes when it premiered in the fall of 1965 and in one of those John Robinson went exploring an alien planet on a jet pack like the one in TB.
Lt. Commander
Posted 07 February 2014 - 01:55 AM
I always felt GoldenEye ripped off the ejector seat escape sequence from Die Hard 2.
AVTAK's mine sequence is unoriginally similar to Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.
AVTAK's script had already been written by the time ToD was in release. Coincidence, nothing more.
Lieutenant
Posted 09 February 2014 - 09:23 AM
Saint Mark, about the Bullit vs DAF car chase:
I respect your opinion, but I must say I'm very surprised that you think this way!
First of all, the DAF car chase is filmed in a very limited area, in maybe two or three Vegas Streets and the parking lot is maybe even filmed at Pinewood studios (I'm not sure), the Bullit chase is on a much bigger scale, driving straight through San Fransico and on the highway,
second it's not played for laughs, like the DAF chase clearly is. Director Peter Yates and actor Steve McQueen wanted the chase (and the whole movie) as realistic as possible, so you can't do fancy and funny stuff.
I admit the carchases of The French Connection and Ronin are ofcourse also great and ways better than the DAF chase, but they lack one important thing:
the lead actors don't drive the cars themselves!
Steve McQueen is famous of doing most of his own stunts himself and was also a great racedriver.
In Bullit you can clearly see him behind the steering wheel and doing most of the stuntwork, only the last scene is done by a stuntman.
Ofcourse when your lead actor is doing the carchase himself, you can not do the most crazy stunts, because that is too dangerous and you have to have him back in one peace for the next scene!
Somehow I don't think many people will think about the DAF car chase if somebody ask "What is your favorite/the best movie car chase" and Bullit will be in most people's top 5!
Edited by Grard Bond, 09 February 2014 - 09:33 PM.
Commander
Posted 09 February 2014 - 09:01 PM
I find the Bullit chase over-rated. Besides, I saw DAF first and that's my gold standard as far as entertainment value goes.
Midshipman
Posted 09 February 2014 - 09:23 PM
the DAF parking lot was at Universal Studios, on the backlot, IIRC>
the FYEO opening has a definite whiff of Euston Films telly.
Lieutenant
Posted 10 February 2014 - 04:18 PM
Thanks for clearing that up!
Somehow I always had the feeling it was not filmed at a real location in Vegas.
Lt. Commander
Posted 14 February 2014 - 04:24 AM
I always felt GoldenEye ripped off the ejector seat escape sequence from Die Hard 2.
AVTAK's mine sequence is unoriginally similar to Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.
AVTAK's script had already been written by the time ToD was in release. Coincidence, nothing more.
As is actor David Yip's appearance in both films.
Sub-Lieutenant
Posted 14 February 2014 - 10:24 AM
Saint Mark, about the Bullit vs DAF car chase:
I respect your opinion, but I must say I'm very surprised that you think this way!
First of all, the DAF car chase is filmed in a very limited area, in maybe two or three Vegas Streets and the parking lot is maybe even filmed at Pinewood studios (I'm not sure), the Bullit chase is on a much bigger scale, driving straight through San Fransico and on the highway,
second it's not played for laughs, like the DAF chase clearly is. Director Peter Yates and actor Steve McQueen wanted the chase (and the whole movie) as realistic as possible, so you can't do fancy and funny stuff.
I admit the carchases of The French Connection and Ronin are ofcourse also great and ways better than the DAF chase, but they lack one important thing:
the lead actors don't drive the cars themselves!
Steve McQueen is famous of doing most of his own stunts himself and was also a great racedriver.
In Bullit you can clearly see him behind the steering wheel and doing most of the stuntwork, only the last scene is done by a stuntman.
Ofcourse when your lead actor is doing the carchase himself, you can not do the most crazy stunts, because that is too dangerous and you have to have him back in one peace for the next scene!
Somehow I don't think many people will think about the DAF car chase if somebody ask "What is your favorite/the best movie car chase" and Bullit will be in most people's top 5!
@Grard Bond
I did watch the carchase scene from Bullit again, of course I got it in my collection, and the carchase itself comes across as pedestrian. While it might have been something special once, I find that having seen many carchases over the years it comes across as overrated.
And of course it is special that the lead actor did his own driving, but that does not take away that quite a few movies have more than excellent drivers that do quite extra ordinary stuff. Nowadays the lead actors are not allowed to drive cars due to insurance reasons so McQueen was lucky and of a dying breed.
But while perhaps grandiously filmed the carchase in Bullit lacks excitement and fun, that said there are far better carchases in the Bondseries than DAF but they generally come across as more exciting or fun, even the chase in QoB comes across as very dynamic.
While Bullit may remain a classic, when it comes to carchases it would not feature in my top 5 of carchase movies.
Perhaps McQueen is more loved in the US than in the rest of the world.