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2013 Academy Awards' OO7 Tribute a bust!


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#61 Vodka Martino

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 01:01 AM

http://m.youtube.com...h?v=t10mNXtfdUw

Now THIS is what should have been shown yesterday at the Oscar's..Standing ovation to the guy who put this together...

 

I choked up towards the end. Excellent work.

What bugs me is that, fifteen years from now, the Academy will put together some real slick tribute to the "Star Wars" saga to celebrate its 50 years. Now that Disney owns the rights, they should be able to churn out another seventeen films until then.

 

And like others have said, Carly Simon doing "Nobody Does It Better" would have been a more fitting song, although Dame Shirley did a phenomenal job as usual. She can still belt it out.

As has been mentioned, they did a better job years ago when Albert Broccoli received the Irving J Thalberg Award.



#62 Bill

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 03:23 PM

I agree that the montage set to Skyfall and the one when Cubby received the Irving G. Thalberg award were better tributes.  Like all of us, I would have preferred to see all six Bonds, but that was not to be.  I realize the thinking all six or none, but bringing Roger out, who I am sure would have done it, to represent the whole series would have been just fine.

 

Now, as far as I know, Halle Berry is the only Oscar winning Bond girl.  She still looks terrific, and does not shy away from her Bond past.  She was the perfect person to introduce the tribute. The montage was fun, while not as well put together as the You Tube tributes.  As for choosing Shirley Bassey to sing Goldfinger, while I would have preferred to see Tom Jones (who was apparently cut for time) and Paul McCartney as well (who were also rumored), at the end of the day, Goldfinger is THE quintessential Bond song. Nobody Does It Better is a song about Bond, and one of my favorites.  It is also very well known.  As for You Know My Name, ask ten random people what was Casino Royale's theme song, and I would bet that you might have one person tell you if you are lucky, or for that matter if they have even heard the song.  Those same ten random people may not associate Nobody Does It Better with The Spy Who Loved Me (despite it being mentioned in the lyrics) or even Bond, but most of them would know the song.  Goldfinger has both recognizability and an immediate association with Bond.  Shirley Bassey is the only singer to sing more then one Bond song--she recorded four of them--with No Good About Goodbye for QOS a possible fifth.  At 76, she still sounds amazing.  

If it was the Academy's attempt to celebrate Bond music, as Halle Berry said, a montage featuring just the James Bond Theme and Live and Let Die, closing with Shirley Bassey singing Goldfinger, it failed to truly do so--there should have been more songs represented, as well as the 007 Theme.  However, it it was meant to be a celebration of the Bond series as a whole, it was fine.  Not perfect by any means, but at least satisfactory.


Edited by Bill, 04 March 2013 - 01:35 AM.


#63 Aziz Fekkesh

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 07:02 PM

Oh, I suppose it might as well have been "Goldfinger" - "Nobody Does it Better" would have been more about Bond, I agree.

 

Is "You Know My Name" about Bond? I always thought it was about "M".



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Posted 04 March 2013 - 01:11 AM

Why would you want a girly song like "Nobody Does It Better" when you can get a loud, brassy --written by John Barry-- song like Goldfinger? 


Edited by RJJB, 04 March 2013 - 01:12 AM.


#65 Binyamin

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 02:14 PM

People actually watch the Oscars?


Why?



#66 JimmyBond

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 08:43 PM

Why would you want a girly song like "Nobody Does It Better" when you can get a loud, brassy --written by John Barry-- song like Goldfinger? 

 

Because it's the better song and more representative of Bond as a whole.



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Posted 04 March 2013 - 11:45 PM

Why would you want a girly song like "Nobody Does It Better" when you can get a loud, brassy --written by John Barry-- song like Goldfinger? 

Nobody Does It Better is girly?

You have a problem being serenaded by a beautiful woman?


Edited by Gt Munn, 04 March 2013 - 11:46 PM.


#68 MkB

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 01:44 AM

The Goldfinger song (and the performer) was a fine choice. And I, for one, really do not think GF is the best Bond film ever.



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Posted 08 March 2013 - 09:39 PM

Somewhat disappointed in the responses to the tribute. I mean, what did people honestly expect, that the Oscars would devote all 3 hours to Bond? A few notes:

 

Halle Berry introduced the segment because she is a Best Actress winner. The only Bond actress to have an Oscar (and she won it while filming Die Another Day, in fact).

 

Why 2013? Because it would have been stupid for them to honor Bond at last year's ceremony without an actual Bond film in contention. And anyway, Dr. No wasn't released in the US until 1963. So that makes 2013 the 50th anniversary of the films in the US. Remember, Oscars are American. BAFTAs are British, so 2012 would have been appropriate in the UK.

 

Why Shirley Bassey? Because Bondmania began with Goldfinger. No one in the US gave a damn about Dr. No or From Russia with Love. It was Goldfinger that made Bond as far as the US (and half the world) is concerned. Also, Matt Munro is dead, and they already played the JBT in the montage, so it's the earliest theme they had to play with (and Goldfinger turns 50 in 2014 anyway, and I'm sorry not everyone agrees but a lot of people think of it as the ultimate Bond film, like it or not). Nobody Does it Better could not have been used because a) it's not as well known to mainstream viewers as Goldfinger and it would have preempted the Academy's plan to have Streisand pay tribute to Marvin Hamlisch with "Memories" later in the show. Did someone earlier in this thread actually suggest You Know My Name? Give me a break; good song, but totally inappropriate for something that is to celebrate the longevity of the franchise. Goldfinger was screwed over for not being nominated Best Song back in 1964 anyway, so this was payback. The standing ovation and huge influx of renewed interest reported in Shirley Bassey from people who had no idea she was still alive is proof they made the right decision.

 

As for the montage, I thought it did the job. They only had a few minutes to play with in order to do it and get Bassey on stage. I'm fine with what they did - because most viewers only wanted that. It's like someone turning around a saying they'd like the Emmys to devote 10 minutes to paying tribute to Doctor Who's 50th this fall. Ain't gonna happen. And I never believed for a minute anyone actually planned to have the Bond actors appear (though Connery, being an Oscar winner, would have been a natural candidate).

 

I don't think it was a mistake for them to split Adele and Bassey into different parts of the program - Bassey stopped the show (to use one reviewer's term) so it would have been immensely unfair to Adele to have to follow her directly.

 

So let's see: montage, Bassey, Nobody Does it Better played during one of the presentations (with its composer honored during In Memoriam), Adele doing Skyfall and becoming the first Bond singer to win the gold, and Bond gettting a rare Oscar in another category, making it one of the few films to win more than one Oscar this year. It might not have been the Bond love-in everyone expected (if you wanted that, then you need to contact EON and ask them where the hell the 2-hour TV special was, or the "making of Bond" docudrama like the one the BBC is doing for Doctor Who), but I thought it was fine.


Edited by 23skidoo, 08 March 2013 - 09:42 PM.


#70 JimmyBond

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 04:12 AM

I would have let every one of my other complaints slide if the montage was any good. It wasn't. Random youtube users edit together much better Bond tributes than the people who got paid to do it.



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Posted 10 March 2013 - 08:55 PM

23skidoo, and others- I agree there was no problem with anything the Academy did. Except that they promised 'something else, something very unique and very exciting'. And that was hype speak, for what they did was not at all unique.

 

After all, the 2012 Baftas had invited an excellent aging singer with a specially crafted montage...

 

And for the excitement of having two Bond theme singers singing their songs live and having Bond actress making a personal appearance, we only have to go back to The Queen's Diamond Jubilee Concert last June...

 

And the level of exposure the Academy Awards offered was actually far lower than it has received from Skyfall, or other places in the 50th year- don't forget, this was the year that over one billion people watched James Bond appearing in a short film alongside the reigning monarch of sixteen different countries.

 

I wasn't expecting anything very unique and very exciting, so I wasn't disappointed, but I can completely understand why some people got their hopes up and now feel a little let down. Can't you?



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Posted 11 March 2013 - 02:58 PM

I wish it could have been a lot more, the James Bond franchise deserves better than this..



#73 Grard Bond

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 05:23 PM

When it was denied (by almost everyone) that the J.B. actors would appear I secretly hoped thas such much denial ment it was going to happen anyway!

So I hoped at least Dalton and/or Moore would present something (even maybe nothing to do with Bond, but just presenting an award, or something else)

and maybe Craig together with Dench, I mean that would have been a nice touch!

 

And what about instead of Berry an older Bondgirl from the past (from the sixties or seventies), someone you don't see that much these days at ceremonies, like Ursula Andress, Honor Blackman, Claudine Auger, Barbara Bach or Caroline Munroe (or all together!). That you're realy getting a WOW! feeling en getting the feeling you're seeing something special on the stage.



#74 tdalton

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 05:34 PM

And what about instead of Berry an older Bondgirl from the past (from the sixties or seventies), someone you don't see that much these days at ceremonies, like Ursula Andress, Honor Blackman, Claudine Auger, Barbara Bach or Caroline Munroe (or all together!). That you're realy getting a WOW! feeling en getting the feeling you're seeing something special on the stage.

 

I thought that having Halle Berry present it was appropriate, given that this was the Academy Awards.  She's the only Bond girl to have won an Oscar, which made her, IMO, the most logical choice to make the presentation. 



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Posted 11 March 2013 - 05:50 PM

But also the most predictable choise, not realy special.



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Posted 13 March 2013 - 02:22 AM

I was expecting more gags like the promo for the Oscars with Seth edited into TWINE. The Blu Ray advertisement was better then there montage. 

It was kind of sad IMO that the Bond actors didn't have a reunion because if it didn't happen then it probably wont ever happen.