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John Logan hopes for 'Skyfall' Oscars


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#1 thecasinoroyale

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 11:30 AM

Taken from BBC News - all about the Academy Award potential for 'Skyfall':

Three-time Oscar nominated screenwriter, John Logan, hopes that his latest work on Skyfall will help the film gain recognition at next year's awards.

Of the 49 previous Bond movies, only two have collected Academy Awards, both in technical categories; Goldfinger won best sound effects in 1964 and a year later in 1965, Thunderball got best visual effects.
So could Skyfall be the first Bond film to achieve mainstream Oscar glory?

"Yes," Logan replies simply. "I think we made a proper movie, which was our goal."

John Logan has previous form with Academy voters, having been nominated for his work writing Gladiator, The Aviator and most recently, Hugo. There has been chatter online that Dame Judi Dench could be nominated for her role as M in Skyfall.

Dench has six Oscar nominations to date, with one win in 1998, for supporting actress in 'Shakespeare in Love'. But when asked about Oscar prospects, Dench was keen to avoid the subject, saying: "Don't let's talk about that yet, that's a long way off."

Bond himself, Daniel Craig, was also keen to avoid Oscar hype at the world premiere, reluctantly admitting "of course" he'd like Skyfall to get noticed by the Academy Awards. "I mean certainly Roger Deakins who did the camera work on this; it would be fantastic if he were to be recognised because he's done such a wonderful job."

Skyfall has already broken UK box office records, taking 10 days to hit £50m in ticket sales, the fastest film ever to do that. It opens in America on 9 November. Rumours last week suggested that John Logan had already been tapped to write the next two Bond movies, as a possible two-part story, but that's been denied by Daniel Craig.

The film's makers, Eon Productions have yet to confirm that Logan will return. However, when asked about the chances of working on future Bond scripts, Logan admits "nothing would make me happier". And if he were to sign up, Logan doesn't see the franchise slipping back into cliched ways.

"I think we've established, and as have Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace, we've established a tone that is the base line reality of Bond now," he said. "So it can't become camp, it can't become grandiose in a bad way at this point, it simply has to be honest to the tone that we've worked so hard to create in Skyfall."


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#2 graric

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 01:10 PM

^A couple of minor errors in the article: '49 prior films in the series' being one. I also thought that John Logan is already working on the next one?(or possibly two)

#3 Shrublands

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 01:13 PM

Of the 49 previous Bond movies,


Love this bit - well researched bit of journalism there Natalie Jamieson of the BBC.
Clearly the details of Bond's anniversary escaped her notice over the last few months.
Perhaps the BBC should've done a show or 2 about it.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 01:14 PM

Good spot with the 49 other Bond films graric!

But on the subject on Logan already working on Bond 24 / 25, this is just media specualtion and rumour. Nothing has officially been confirmed. As is the rumour that Logan has sold his ideas to EON ready to start work on.

Daniel Craig also shot down the rumour saying that nothing has started yet, and working on 2 Bond films back-to-back for a 2 parter wouldn't work as each film needs sole dedication and focus for that one film, never mind 2 at once to work together.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 01:27 PM

Daniel Craig also shot down the rumour saying that nothing has started yet,


No he didn't. He just shot down the two film shot back-to-back rumour and the two-part story.
In fact, he explicitly said that a treatment had been written for Bond 24 - He's read it, therefor some work has began.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 01:37 PM

Eon is probably taking pitches, at the very least, and I'd imagine there's some kernel of truth to the rumor that Logan is writing at least Bond 24. To not capitalize on the momentum they have with Skyfall, well... it wouldn't be very Bond-like. He and Mendes ought to be writing a Bond bible, should they have the foresight.

With that said, I think an Oscar for Skyfall, should it happen, ought to be a pleasant, unexpected surprise. If it happens. I think Bond films should take the high road; they were never made with the intention of pandering for public acceptance, and they shouldn't start now. Bond by definition is an iconoclast, something the Acedemy will never quite wrap around its pointy little head...

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 01:42 PM


Daniel Craig also shot down the rumour saying that nothing has started yet,


No he didn't. He just shot down the two film shot back-to-back rumour and the two-part story.
In fact, he explicitly said that a treatment had been written for Bond 24 - He's read it, therefor some work has began.


I remember the Craig story, but I seem to remember before the story of a two-part Bond film there was an official announcement from Eon that John Logan was working on the treatment for Bond 24, notably without Neal Purvis or Robert Wade involved for the first time in a long time.

#8 Shrublands

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 02:07 PM



Daniel Craig also shot down the rumour saying that nothing has started yet,


No he didn't. He just shot down the two film shot back-to-back rumour and the two-part story.
In fact, he explicitly said that a treatment had been written for Bond 24 - He's read it, therefor some work has began.


I remember the Craig story, but I seem to remember before the story of a two-part Bond film there was an official announcement from Eon that John Logan was working on the treatment for Bond 24, notably without Neal Purvis or Robert Wade involved for the first time in a long time.



Not exactly official, but from highly credible sources - Variety, Hollywood Reporter and Deadline. Also the Daily Mail’s Baz Bamigboye, who certainly had excellent inside info on all things Skyfall.

Personally, I believe the essence of the story. Actors denied things about Skyfall that turned out to be true.
I always thought the back-to-back filming was just journalistic speculation, the copy said as much. So I very much believe Craig that that is out of the question.
However, I think Logan is working on a script for Bond 24 based on an idea he pitched during the making of Skyfall and there may even be truth to the two part story. But for whatever reason some info needs to stay underwraps for now. Perhaps Bond 24 ends with a cliffhanger and they want to keep that a surprise, who knows.
It is clear a treatment exists, Craig has said as much - this will have been written by Logan.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 02:09 PM

Apologies Shrubs, thanks for clearing that up - I got confused as to what he said was happening or not! :)

Certainly nice to know things are going around for Bond 24 at the moment!

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 08:02 PM

I think it's been hinted that Bond 24 has been in pre-production for at least a few months now, and I think Logan is working on a way to bring back Blofeld and SPECTRE. So even if he's not working on Bond 25 directly, I could see that his treatment for Bond 24 could be seen as affecting at least the next film or more. I think his quote about 'Bond should always fight Blofeld' may apply here.

And of course, I'm sure he intends his Blofeld to win an Oscar. ;)

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 08:17 PM

I suppose Logan already working on a future outline/script is mainly connected to efforts to see Mendes back. The studios always want the next one as fast as possible, Eon generally has not the same priorities on a fast current-Bond+1 production. But Mendes will probably only come back if story and script are alluring enough, otherwise another project could seem more tempting for him.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 08:19 PM

That would be cool if Skyfall was nominated for Oscars, but sadly I just don't think it will happen.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 03:51 AM

That would be cool if Skyfall was nominated for Oscars, but sadly I just don't think it will happen.


The Academy might look down their nose at Bond films but I'm sure they run out to see them just like everybody else. :)

Then again, who ever thought we'd see a Batman film earn an Oscar, especially for the actor playing the Joker...?

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 04:01 AM

I see the film getting some technical award Nominations. Major ones such as for acting, screenwriting, directing, and Picture seem A bit far fetched, since there is now 10 nominees for Best Picture, It would be neat to see Skyfall up in the list. Wishful thinking I suppose.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 04:04 AM

Did Casino Royale get any nominations? That might give us an indication. And my wild guess without looking it up yet is: probably not...

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 04:11 AM

Craig did get nominated for Best Actor at the BAFTA's, which is considered Britain's Oscars. If not the Oscar Nominations, then possibly the BAFTA's. I have a feeling the film may get some Tech Nominations for sure though.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 06:57 AM

The Academy Awards will definitely be different this year: a new online voting possibility, a modified time table, having the nominations out BEFORE the Golden Globes - all of this may affect the result considerably. And films that are released not that close to the deadline will benefit from this. With SKYFALL out in November and a huge wanna-see-element, the members of the Academy will have seen the film (it´s even slated at the AFI festival!)

And since Mendes, Deakins, Dench and Bardem already are on their radar as previous Oscar winners, SKYFALL will get a better chance at being nominated than any previous Bond film.

Although I consider Craig´s work as award worthy, I don´t think that he will be recognized by the Oscars. But Bardem, Mendes and Deakins are very possible candidates for nominations. And SKYFALL in the Best Picture category also does not seem impossible. Heck, if THE LORD OF THE RINGS managed to sweep the Oscars, 007 should easily be able to.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 11:26 AM

Did Casino Royale get any nominations? That might give us an indication. And my wild guess without looking it up yet is: probably not...

Nothing for CASINO ROYALE, no.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 11:44 AM

I believe this movie will be nominated for Best Cinematography, Best Song and Best Art Direction.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 04:17 PM

Skyfall might get a nomination along the lines of Best Cinematography for Deakins, but that's about it. Perhaps it could manage a Best Song nomination, although it's certainly not deserving of it, but considering Adele's massive worldwide popularity, it wouldn't surprise me.

Aside from that, though, it's not going to get much else in the way of nominations.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 04:39 PM

Also, Skyfall will be the first Bond film to mail out DVDs to Academy members as part of a concerted effort to gain support. There are those who believe that CR might have stood a chance had the same been done with that.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 04:51 PM

Also, Skyfall will be the first Bond film to mail out DVDs to Academy members as part of a concerted effort to gain support. There are those who believe that CR might have stood a chance had the same been done with that.

I'd missed that. That's certainly an encouraging start.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 05:08 PM


Also, Skyfall will be the first Bond film to mail out DVDs to Academy members as part of a concerted effort to gain support. There are those who believe that CR might have stood a chance had the same been done with that.

I'd missed that. That's certainly an encouraging start.



Yes, there is also a screening for the Academy, with Sam Mendes there, in LA on Sunday night.
This sort of thing hasn't been done for Bond before, but a proper campaign is needed with the Academy, film makers can't just do a good job, sit back and expect to be rewarded.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 12:32 PM

Building the case for Bond: 'Skyfall' for best picture
"Skyfall," the latest James Bond movie, has already shattered box-office records in Great Britain and earned ecstatic reviews in advance of its Friday opening here in the States. Now its makers are zeroing in on an unlikely target -- Oscar voters -- in a quest to become the first Bond movie to win a best picture nomination.
"Skyfall" director Sam Mendes will be making the rounds in Los Angeles this weekend, participating in a Q&A at an all-guild screening at the Directors Guild on Saturday afternoon, a Q&A for the Producers Guild on Saturday night and then answering questions at a Screen Actors Guild nominating committee event at the Pacific Design Center on Sunday afternoon. Mendes' weekend will culminate with an academy screening Sunday night, where he'll be joined by actresses Naomie Harris and Bérénice Marlohe and and the franchise's owners, producers Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli.
Agent 007 himself, Daniel Craig, and Javier Bardem, who plays Bond's showboating nemesis in "Skyfall," may also attend some of the events.

Bond movies have struggled to gain Oscar voters' attention over the years, winning only seven nominations and two awards. ("Goldfinger" took sound effects in 1965; "Thunderball" won for special visual effects the following year.) Four of the franchise's nominations have been for music, the last coming in 1982 for "For Your Eyes Only."
"Skyfall," however, may be a special case. As we've already outlined here, the 23rd official Bond installment sports a deep bench of Oscar winners, starting with its director Mendes. Then, there are the reviews. Currently at Metacritic, "Skyfall" owns a higher rating than that other Oscar contender arriving this weekend, "Lincoln," with critics praising "Skyfall" for pulling off the difficult feat of reinvigorating a franchise celebrating its golden anniversary.
The question now: Do the film's owners -- MGM and the Broccoli estate -- along with Sony Pictures, the movie's distributor, posess the awards-season know-how to turn all this good will into a campaign that connects with academy members? Until very recently, the backers had taken a wait-and-see attitude, a source at the studio not authorized to speak publicly tells us. But now that the strong reviews are pouring in and the money is piling up, they're ready to go full bore.

This isn't the first time a Bond movie has been floated for best picture. "Casino Royale," the 2006 entry that established Craig in the lead role, won outstanding reviews and a great many champions. But the film's backers failed to mail DVD screeners to academy members, a mistake that will not be repeated with "Skyfall," our source tells us.
Academy members we canvassed are impatiently waiting the Sunday night screening in Beverly Hills, with some predicting the event will generate an overflow crowd.
"Casino Royale" won the franchise a lot of good will," one Oscar voter says. "If 'Skyfall' is better than that, then I see absolutely no reason why it couldn't be in the conversation for best picture."

Adds another academy member: "People have a lot of affection for this franchise. If you're of a certain age, it's part of your DNA, and that has to count for something, especially if the movie's great."



http://www.latimes.c...0,2598907.story

Edited by Elvenstar, 09 November 2012 - 12:34 PM.