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#1 Mavalant

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 04:28 PM

Hi for all who have seen Skyfall will know the Goldfinger Aston Martin is back 10/10 but with that does it mean we have gone back to the original and this reboot is just for the other two Craig movies.

I like to think that now we have done the prequel story and back to the old series

What do you think

#2 SecretAgentFan

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 04:31 PM

In a way, you´re right.

#3 Skudor

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 04:46 PM

“The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again.”
Robert Jordan

I think they pulled a very interesting and lovely sleigh of hand, which is utterly nonsensical (especially given the CR reboot and the Dench Dilemma).

#4 univex

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 04:47 PM

Yes, back to a formula that can´t be the old formula because the bar is just way higher. It´s a neo-formula, if you will.

Oh, and good quote Skudor.

#5 AgenttiNollaNollaSeitsemän

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 04:52 PM

B&W said that some unseen missions has taken place so I guess it's not completely implausible that Craig-Bond has experienced at least some of the adventures featured in the older films between QoS and Skyfall. Maybe Craig-Bond thwarted the dastardly plan of certain Goldfinger around August 2010... :)

Edited by AgenttiNollaNollaSeitsemän, 28 October 2012 - 04:53 PM.


#6 Elmason

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 04:58 PM

This is the way I rationalised it on my way back from the cinema.

Bond won the car in CR got it imported, got it re-registered on a vintage plate, got it converted to right hand drive and gave it to Q branch to get a few optional extras.........seems like a lot of work though I would just have sold the thing!

Still I'm not losing sleep over it honest.

#7 Gothamite

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 05:00 PM

I like to think that CraigBond either owns the DB5 himself and added in the modifications himself (maybe with help from Q Branch) or it's an old Mi6 car (which would explain why M knew about the ejector seat) that Bond bought so he could use it as his personal car. I definitely don't think it's the same one from CR (which he either abandoned in the Bahamas or traded in for the right-hand drive one in this film).

For me, continuity in these films is only directly linked to the actor appearing as James Bond within them. Everything else is loose and inter-changeable, as it should be.

EDIT: Goldfinger, as a plot is bonkers for this day and age.

Edited by Gothamite, 28 October 2012 - 05:04 PM.


#8 Scrambled Eggs

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 05:12 PM

Of course, this would prove the codename theory once and for all....

....if we didn't get a shot of his parents gravestones.

I suspect they had several long and involved conversations about that DB5 - or at least about making it the Goldfinger DB5. In the end they probably just said, "[censored] it, it's Bond and it doesnt have to make sense".

#9 Mavalant

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 05:24 PM

THE CODE NAME THEORY IS 100% UN TRUE and a stupid idea

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 05:43 PM

Ok, I've got it. Bond wins the DB5 in the Bahamas in CR - has it shipped back to England. After trashing the Vanquish at the start of QoS, he realises he needs a daily driver back in the UK. He can't use the Vanish, because when he parked it after DAD, he left it in "camouflage" mode and now he can't find the bloody thing.

Believing the tabloid headlines that he can't drive a manual, he takes the DB5 in for a conversion and in the process gets it converted to right-hand drive. Voila, DB5 conundrum solved.

Seriously, as Scrambled Eggs says, it's a Bond, it doesn't have to make sense, if you watch any of the films more than once, they rarely do!

#11 JimmyBond

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 05:47 PM

Here's an idea, it's a Bond movie. Why is everyone jumping through hoops trying to rationalize it?

#12 MkB

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 05:53 PM

I suspect they had several long and involved conversations about that DB5 - or at least about making it the Goldfinger DB5. In the end they probably just said, "[censored] it, it's Bond and it doesnt have to make sense".


Maybe... or maybe they said "Let's have some fun with the fans and watch their brains implode..." ;)

#13 Pussfeller

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 06:51 PM

It's the same car he won from Dimitrios. Back in 2010 Bond tangled with a four-dimensional villain, Hyperpussy, and the DB5 was rotated through the fourth dimension, reversing its chirality. Bond was also flipped, and if you look very closely, you'll notice that his heart is now on the right side of his body. (Another Dr No homage inserted by Purvis and Wade.)

#14 dgibby

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 07:40 PM

And I really hope it gets rebuilt for Bond 24!

#15 Gothamite

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 11:18 PM

Here's an idea, it's a Bond movie. Why is everyone jumping through hoops trying to rationalize it?


Because for some of us, that's part of the fun. I mean we're already on an Internet forum, we clearly care more about this than the average popcorn-muncher.

#16 marktmurphy

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 11:40 PM

I was ridiculously excited to see it had its guns on it. Fantastic stuff. And the first time they've actually been useful to him!

Spoiler


#17 Roebuck

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 02:39 PM

And I really hope it gets rebuilt for Bond 24!



I’m kind of the opposite. I keep thinking of Turner's painting of the Temeraire, and that the simile works as well for the Aston as for Bond himself. Since GoldenEye they’ve liked bringing out a DB5 as a kind of shorthand telling us that, whatever else has changed, this is still the same Bond and part of the same cannon. But it’s always been a nostalgia thing; we all realized that the old warhorse couldn’t hold its end up beside those rolling missile batteries 007 has driven since. It’s called progress. :rolleyes:

So here we are, 50th anniversary of movie Bond and the DB5 still helps save the day, while all the pretenders to its throne sort of became one hit wonders (Not their fault I suppose. James has always been rough on his toys). And best of all, it gets an amazing Sam Peckinpah style finale. No going out with a whimper here! Craig’s reaction shot caps it perfectly (and was that an echo of Thunderball overlaying it on the score?)

God, I’ll miss the Aston, but that’s the way for a grand old battle ship to leave the stage. Never cared for the thought of it ending up in that old tube station with the rest of Q’s junk.

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 11:33 PM

I was ridiculously excited to see it had its guns on it. Fantastic stuff. And the first time they've actually been useful to him!

Spoiler


It was really cool...
Spoiler

Edited by Gothamite, 05 November 2012 - 11:35 PM.


#19 tonyvenhuizen

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 03:47 AM

Just read this article about how they
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http://gizmodo.com/5...ge-the-original

Basically - they used 3D printing to create models. Pretty incredible.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 08:30 AM

Don't forget the Aston from GF have revolving plates. So Bond may just have used someone in the service to make some custom amendments to the car in the meantime between QOS and this one, and converted it to right hand drive in the process. Thought just one line of dialogue could have made this work. As is, it's just Mendes pleasuring himself.

#21 Peckinpah1976

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 11:21 AM

EDIT: Goldfinger, as a plot is bonkers for this day and age.


It was bonkers at the time and CR was hardly plausible by 2006 standards! :D

On a related matter; I actually thought M's line about the ejector seat kind of killed the joke - it would have been much funnier if they'd just left it as Bond reaching for the control when she was getting on his nerves.

Edited by Peckinpah1976, 13 November 2012 - 11:23 AM.


#22 marktmurphy

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 02:33 PM

Just read this article about how they

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http://gizmodo.com/5...ge-the-original

Basically - they used 3D printing to create models. Pretty incredible.


Thank you! I've been dying to know how they did it.

I did think it looked a bit off but I'm amazed it was a model.

Here's the manufacturer's page about it: http://www.voxeljet....s-bond-skyfall/

#23 Clements

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:32 AM

Sadly, the truth about the DB5 turns out to be rather mundane compared to some of the interesting theories above.

In the script, Purvis and Wade intended it to be the car Bond won in Casino Royale. Later, Sam Mendes decided it would be cool to add the Goldfinger gadgets. No one bothered - or felt it necessary - to worry about any of the pre/post-reboot continuity questions that stem from this.

Personally, I'm happy to sacrifice a little continuity if that's the cost of the ejector seat line and seeing those machine guns blasting away. :D

P&W talk about this in the Empire Podcast: http://soundcloud.co...writers-spoiler

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 04:46 AM

For me, continuity in these films is only directly linked to the actor appearing as James Bond within them. Everything else is loose and inter-changeable, as it should be.


It's the same for me as well.

#25 marktmurphy

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 11:20 AM

Sadly, the truth about the DB5 turns out to be rather mundane compared to some of the interesting theories above.

In the script, Purvis and Wade intended it to be the car Bond won in Casino Royale. Later, Sam Mendes decided it would be cool to add the Goldfinger gadgets. No one bothered - or felt it necessary - to worry about any of the pre/post-reboot continuity questions that stem from this.

Personally, I'm happy to sacrifice a little continuity if that's the cost of the ejector seat line and seeing those machine guns blasting away. :D

P&W talk about this in the Empire Podcast: http://soundcloud.co...writers-spoiler



Yeah we know; we're just having fun thinking up how it could work in the fiction of the thing. We know why it's there in the film.

#26 Clements

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 12:12 PM

Yeah we know; we're just having fun thinking up how it could work in the fiction of the thing. We know why it's there in the film.


I understand, and like I said I'm enjoying the speculation. I just didn't realize it was common knowledge that Purvis and Wade specifically intended it to be the DB5 from CR.

#27 Robertsmiller

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 05:02 AM

Man F*** that "code name" xxxxx just enjoy the god damn movie James Bond is his NAME