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[Victor Zokas]

http://www.deadline....-officerecords/

[FOX MULDER]

£20 million weekend. Cool.

This success has recharged the series for the future.

Skyfall has made me tremendously excited for Bond 24!

[thecasinoroyale]

Bloody great stuff - can't wait to see the exact figures and what records 'Skyfall' has smashed and how well it's done!

Nobody does it better.

[Vauxhall]

Incredible statistics if they all check out. Congratulations to Messrs Mendes, Wilson, Broccoli, Craig et al.

[DamnCoffee]

Fantastic news! Brilliant in fact. Always knew we'd have a winner!

[Tony_OO_Black]

The beauty of great advance reviews & hype. Plus it's Bond, and most people will make the extra effort for him.

[thecasinoroyale]

Jeez....how are they going to top this?!

[BJMDDS]

With Olympics Bond hype, bolstered critical acclaim, around the clock screenings, and a massive singer doing the title song, Bond 23 is only estimated to do $32 million USD at the UK box office? QOS did $24 million USD in the UK and it was a poorly received film. Do the math. Inflation of tickets over 4 years plus the additional IMAX fees and all you get opening weekend for a definite front loaded film is an additional $7-8 million opening? I would have expected a $50 million opening in the UK under such publicity and acclaim. There will be no doubt that both Twilight and The Hobbit will reduce Bond 23's energy to nil once they are released.

[SecretAgentFan]

With Olympics Bond hype, bolstered critical acclaim, around the clock screenings, and a massive singer doing the title song, Bond 23 is only estimated to do $32 million USD at the UK box office? QOS did $24 million USD in the UK and it was a poorly received film. Do the math. Inflation of tickets over 4 years plus the additional IMAX fees and all you get opening weekend for a definite front loaded film is an additional $7-8 million opening? I would have expected a $50 million opening in the UK under such publicity and acclaim. There will be no doubt that both Twilight and The Hobbit will reduce Bond 23's energy to nil once they are released.

Party pooper. But your argument lost any credibility with the "QOS was a poorly received film"-lie.

[BJMDDS]

You mean it was praised after it was released? Not so.

[SecretAgentFan]

Hey, whatever some fan boys on internet message boards think - QOS was a HUGE moneymaker, and that´s what keeps this franchise alive, not what some people or some nerdy journalists hopping on any hate-bandwagon to make them feel superior think.

[Jim]

Straws clutched firmly, there.



Ah, the voice of DanielCraigisnotBond.

Pfft.

[Shrublands]

I would have expected a $50 million opening in the UK under such publicity and acclaim.

Would you? No film ever has. Even the final Harry Potter, with unprecedented hype, got to a £23m. The biggest ever, incidentally.
£20m or £21m is a fantastic achievement.

[Jim]

I think it would mean opening very many new cinemas that don't exist, except in the minds of the embarrassingly deluded.

[Tony_OO_Black]

Yep, what a load of old nonsense. Skyfall will do huge business in the US, Bond is as popular there as he is here.

[Invincible1958]

I would have expected a $50 million opening in the UK under such publicity and acclaim.

$50 million? That is almost twice as much as the all-time-record?

That would be like a $400 million opening in the US. Haha.

[Pussfeller]

I think it would mean opening very many new cinemas that don't exist, except in the minds of the embarrassingly deluded.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Surely the ticket sales must run into a mathematical ceiling, given that movie seats are a finite commodity.

[Double-0-Seven]

Great first showing! Seeing as how the latest Mission: Impossible film made nearly $700 million overall, I think Skyfall will fare just fine. Audiences seem to be enjoying a good action/adventure film right now. Add the hype plus the fact that it's a Bond film and we're set. I won't be surprised if Skyfall tops Casino Royale big time.

With Olympics Bond hype, bolstered critical acclaim, around the clock screenings, and a massive singer doing the title song, Bond 23 is only estimated to do $32 million USD at the UK box office? QOS did $24 million USD in the UK and it was a poorly received film. Do the math. Inflation of tickets over 4 years plus the additional IMAX fees and all you get opening weekend for a definite front loaded film is an additional $7-8 million opening? I would have expected a $50 million opening in the UK under such publicity and acclaim. There will be no doubt that both Twilight and The Hobbit will reduce Bond 23's energy to nil once they are released.

Party pooper. But your argument lost any credibility with the "QOS was a poorly received film"-lie.

Also with the "inflation of tickets" nonsense. In 2008 it cost me $9.50 to see a movie. In 2012, it costs me $9.50 to see a movie. $5 on Tuesdays, in fact.

Reminds me of when the Craig naysayers used to try arguing that the only reason Casino Royale made more money than Die Another Day was because of increases in ticket prices. Ironically, the ticket prices in my area went down because the theater was bought by another company who decided to build more screens then lower then prices.

[thecasinoroyale]

From EW.com:

Internationally, Skyfall, the 23rd picture in the James Bond series, got off to a massive start. The film grossed $77.7 million from 25 territories, including $32.4 million from the U.K. (where the film set a new attendance record on Saturday), $9.1 million from France, and $8.6 million from Russia. According to Sony, Skyfall‘s start was 76 percent bigger than the launch of Casino Royale, and 30 percent bigger than Quantum of Solace‘s debut. The film opens stateside on Nov. 9.


From HollywoodReporter.com:

The 23rd installment in the James Bond series is looking like a worldwide juggernaut and could be the biggest in the series; sets attendance records in the U.K.

Easily dominating the foreign box office, James Bond pic Skyfall opened to a staggering $77.7 million from 25 markets, paving the way for the 23rd installment in the multi-billion franchise to become the best of the series.

The third Bond outing starring Daniel Craig as 007 opened a full two weeks before its Nov. 9 domestic debut and placed No. 1 everywhere. The Sony and MGM pic commanded $32.4 million in the U.K., shattering several records.

IMAX turned in $3.5 million from 27 theaters in 15 territories -- the exhibitor's largest opening ever for a non-holiday, non-summer title.
"This picture has such an incredible DNA and to be so loved by critics and audiences alike will push it be one of the biggest, if not biggest, Bond pics," Sony worldwide president of distribution Rory Bruer said.

Casino Royale, also starring Craig, is the top-grossing Bond pic to date, earning $599 million worldwide, including $432 million internationally.

Sony said Skyfall smashed the all-time Saturday attendance record in the U.K., as well as posting the No. 2 opening weekend in history, behind just the 3D Harry Potter & The Deathly Hallows Part 2.

In France, Skyfall drew $9.1 million from some 700 situations. Russia opened to $8.6 million. The South Korea bow scooped up 49% of the market with $$6.1 million. Skyfall set an opening record for a Bond title in Brazil ($3.2 million) and drew $1.4 million in Belgium.

The 22 previous Bond titles dating from the first, 1962’s Dr. No (which generated $43.4 million overseas) to 2008’s Quantum of Solace ($407.7 million), have tallied total foreign revenues of $3.277 billion.

[JCRendle]

Reminds me of when the Craig naysayers used to try arguing that the only reason Casino Royale made more money than Die Another Day was because of increases in ticket prices. Ironically, the ticket prices in my area went down because the theater was bought by another company who decided to build more screens then lower then prices.

Funny, adjust for inflation Die Another Day made $431,971,116, Casino Royale took $594,239,066. Even QoS took more than each of Brosnan's films.

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This is amazing, Skyfall isn't in 3D, so it doesn't have the advantage of inflated 3D ticket costs that Harry Potter 7b 3D and many other movies have and yet it is still coming out on top. The fact that only HP3D is higher and Skyfall has beaten several other 3D movies is staggering.

[MkB]

Serious question from someone very poorly acquainted with all-things-cinema: can't we compare the total *number* of tickets sold, instead of the totall gross? Aren't those figures available? It seems it would make more sense.

[JCRendle]

Serious question from someone very poorly acquainted with all-things-cinema: can't we compare the total *number* of tickets sold, instead of the totall gross? Aren't those figures available? It seems it would make more sense.

It would, I agree. The closest we have is adjusted gross figures.

[Glockenspiel]

Serious question from someone very poorly acquainted with all-things-cinema: can't we compare the total *number* of tickets sold, instead of the totall gross? Aren't those figures available? It seems it would make more sense.

It would, I agree. The closest we have is adjusted gross figures.

That's the way we count in France : the success of movies are calculated with the total number of tickets sold, which avoids us the problem of adjusting figures.
As an example, here's the Bond movies classified by the number of tickets sold in France :

GOLDFINGER - 6 675 099
THUNDERBALL - 5 734 842
FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE - 5 623 391
DOCTOR NO - 4 772 574
YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE - 4 489 249
DIE ANOTHER DAY - 4 010 574
QUANTUM OF SOLACE - 3 722 798
THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH - 3 599 609
THE SPY WHO LOVED ME - 3 500 993
GOLDENEYE - 3 493 610
TOMORROW NEVER DIES - 3 435 210
CASINO ROYALE - 3 182 862
FOR YOUR EYES ONLY - 3 181 840
MOONRAKER - 3 171 274
LIVE AND LET DIE - 3 053 913
OCTOPUSSY - 2 944 481
THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN - 2 873 898
NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN - 2 582054
DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER - 2 493 739
AVIEW TO A KILL - 2 423 306
LICENCE TO KILL - 2 110 402
THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS - 1 978 347
ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE - 1 958 172

Edited by Glockenspiel, 28 October 2012 - 10:15 PM.

[JCRendle]

Thanks Glockenspiel, that's interesting reading - where did you get the figures from?

It seems in France, Connery's the best selling, followed by Brosnan then Craig, then Moore, Dalton and finally Lazenby.

[BJMDDS]

Nothing costs the same in 2012 as it did in 2008 unless it's real estate property that fluctuates or a stock investment that tanked. Ticket prices in the USA have risen every 6 months, contrary to the slowing world's economy. It's one sector here that does not understand recessions.

Edited by BJMDDS, 28 October 2012 - 10:32 PM.

[MkB]

Very interesting, Glockenspiel, thank you!

The Connery-Bond ticket sales are huge, indeed. I wonder if that is linked also to a change of habits in cinema-going? I've been told that people went much more to the cinema in the 50s and 60s than today, in the era of TV, BluR discs and Internet. Of course there's also the Bond Mania.
It's weird to see that QoS had more tickets sold than CR, and that CR was less successful (in terms of tickets sold) than any of the Brosnan movies.

[Glockenspiel]

JC RENDLE:
Connery is number one, far away from Brosnan who is going to be beaten by Craig, IMO, with Skyfall.
Skyfall has made a very strong opening, with more than 1 million viewers in 3 days.
Moreover, the week which is coming is holidays.
But the audience don't like the film as much as the critics, if I refer myself to the forums on the Internet.
Reviews of general public are mixed.

[MkB]

But the audience don't like the film as much as the critics, if I refer myself to the forums on the Internet.
Reviews of general public are mixed.

Interesting, are you referring to French Bond fan forums, or general audience forums?

[Shrublands]

But the audience don't like the film as much as the critics, if I refer myself to the forums on the Internet.
Reviews of general public are mixed.

God knows where you've got this impression. Everywhere I've looked from Twitter to the feedback on the Odeon site, the audience response has been overwhelmingly positive. This film is loved.

[jamie00007]

With Olympics Bond hype, bolstered critical acclaim, around the clock screenings, and a massive singer doing the title song, Bond 23 is only estimated to do $32 million USD at the UK box office? QOS did $24 million USD in the UK and it was a poorly received film. Do the math. Inflation of tickets over 4 years plus the additional IMAX fees and all you get opening weekend for a definite front loaded film is an additional $7-8 million opening? I would have expected a $50 million opening in the UK under such publicity and acclaim. There will be no doubt that both Twilight and The Hobbit will reduce Bond 23's energy to nil once they are released.

Right... The second biggest opening of all time in the UK. The biggest opening of 2012, beating out behemoths like The Avengers and The Dark Knight. An increase of almost 40% over the last Bond film, itself a record setter. Yeah, what a disappointment