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[Gothamite]

I've resigned myself to the fact that it will be a while before I get to play another game more along the lines of 007: Bloodstone (or more accurately "Everything or Nothing"), which is still really the best way of doing a James Bond game.

In that sense, which of the three Activision FPS games that use the 007 licence would you consider to be the best? I've heard harsh criticisms of all three, with glimmers of promise for all three here and there as well.

Right now, I'm interested in buying GE second-hand, but is QoS better? I've resigned myself to renting 007 Legends, after the dreadful reception it seems to have gotten, but perhaps I'll enjoy it nonetheless.

[Walecs]

Hard to choose. I like QoS, Blood Stone and GoldenEye Reloaded in different ways.

Oh, and about your signature, I like everything you're a proud defender of.

[thecasinoroyale]

'Quantum Of Solace' sticks out for me - that's a pretty decent game. Not too loud and busy, and nice stealth moments during the missions. Multiplayer was good fun too.


I can't remember much of 'Blood Stone' but only played it once, completed it, then moved on. I think this year of Bond I will re-visit it once I've done '007 Legends' to see how they all stack up.

[bond_azoozbond]

None for sure .. Even they created the best FPS shooter they suck with bond ..

[Gothamite]

I like Bloodstone for much the same reason I like "From Russia with Love"; it's just an enjoyable Daniel Craig version of "Everything or Nothing". Not a patch on the latter, but still quite good and an absolute step in the right direction.

The only thing really great thing about Bond in FPS form is the multiplayer and even then, you only quickly see the various characters people play before they end up killing you. :-P

GoldenEye Reloaded seems to be readily available and quite cheap nowadays, so I suppose I'll buy that.

[seawolfnyy]

The activision FPS Bond's are all sub-par. The cover mechanic in QoS is good, however, and a damn shame it wasn't used in either of the other 2. Blood Stone is their best. As for FRWL, I liked the game until the final level. That last level just ruined it for me. I never thought I'd want EA back for anything, but they did much better with the Bond license.

[Matt_13]

From Russia with Love and Goldeneye Rogue Agent were pretty poor efforts. Yes, they have Everything or Nothing and Nightfire to their credit, both of which were VERY good, but EA were hardly consistent with their output. I'd say that Activision has simply been dealt poor hands from the stat. It's evident that the budget for these games is simply not enough to ensure a quality end product, nor does it appear that the timetables for the production of these games is substantive enough to provide a polished experience by the ship date. I feel as though we'll never get a "good" Bond game. Unless a few years are given to craft an excellent story, gameplay, and multiplayer experience, we will never see the full potential of the license.

[seawolfnyy]

I don't think Activision has been dealt a poor hand, I think they deal the developers a poor hand. It's evident by that poor production values of the 4 games. The Bond license needs to go somewhere where it will given the care it is deserved like EA gave to Everything or Nothing.

[bonds_walther]

I think QoS has been their best effort so far. That's the one that I've enjoyed and played the most. It probably had somthing to with Treyarch being the lead developer. Essentially it's Call of Duty with a Bond skin. Eurogamer haven't even come close to that. GE: Reloaded was OK; Bloodstone was better. The multiplayer on both the latter games was awful. I've not played 007 Legends yet - I'll be too busy with Halo 4 and Black Ops 2.

[Nicolas Suszczyk]

Haven't played GoldenEye Reloaded and 007 Legends yet, but Quantum of Solace is great (better than Blood Stone IMO)

[Gothamite]

Right, well they had QoS for a tenner in HMV today, so I bought that.

I was pretty dissatisfied with GoldenEye Reloaded for most of the reasons you guys don't seem to like it (mindless hordes of repetitive bad guys). Thus far, the only Activision/Craig game I've really been impressed by has been Blood Stone, which really makes you feel like James Bond thanks to its excellent cover mechanic, limited allowance of weaponry and fun (if simplistic) takedowns. Yes it's repetitive, but it's a huge step in the right direction. If I could go back in time and give the developers of Blood Stone more time and money, I definitely would.

I'm looking forward to the CR elements featured in QoS; one of the biggest criticisms I heard about the game originally is that it should have been called "Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace", so I'm actually looking forward to seeing what elements of Craig's first film made it into the game based on his second.

As for the controls, I've read the manual and I'm a little bit worried by how different they are to pretty much every FPS I've ever played (LB is change weapon?!), but we'll see. Looking forward to it.

[Gothamite]

QoS is certainly a much better, bigger game than GoldenEye: Reloaded. I love the level-design, destructive environments and the overall production values that weren't present in the later Activision games. I really like the cover system, although you use it so often that it begs the question of why theg didn't just make the game third-person to begin with.

What prevents QoS from being more than just 'good' is that familiar reliance on repetitive hordes of gun-toting henchmen (although at least they have a bit more personality in this), the lack of any driving levels and the awful use of timed-button events.

The other problem is the graphics. I know this is a game from four years ago, but it honestly looks like a game from TEN years ago. The textures are all flat and basic-looking and characters' faces have that same potatoey quality that just isn't acceptable for today's gaming generation. Daniel Craig looks pretty bad, his head is disproportionately large and his face looks unfinished. Nowhere near as good as he looked in Blood Stone.

As a Bond fan, I was really shocked and offended by some of the ridiculous story decisions they make in the game. They skip all over Quantum of Solace so they can get to an opportunity to squeeze in a flashback to Casino Royale which takes up almost the entire remainder of the game. Did this have something to do with the writers strike or was it just to prevent QoS spoilers (but really...was there any spoilers even worth mentioning in that film?).

All in all, a more enjoyable Bond experience than GoldenEye Reloaded, but we need much more than this.

[Double-0-Seven]

Blood Stone is the best game so far. I wish they would have continued in that direction. It wasn't perfect nor as refined as Everything or Nothing was, but it was a fun game and a step in the right direction. I wish the sequel would have come to be. It's like you're watching and engaging with a Daniel Craig movie. I'll have to give it another playthrough. Perhaps I should do that instead of buying 007 Legends at all.

It's too bad they can't do a hybrid kind of bond game - third-person single player (which works better for Bond I think) plus first-person multiplayer (always a staple of Bond games).

[seawolfnyy]

I wouldn't call QoS a CoD clone. It had the excellent cover mechanic that CoD still does not have, strangely. GE:R and 007 Legends both are clearly CoD knock-offs, but I at least thought GE:R had been given some care as it's not a horrible game. The single player is definitely better than the multiplayer, but activision just needs to give up the Bond license to someone who actually cares. Too bad we won't get Raven's game....

[Shaun Forever]

Goldeneye Reloaded for sure, think it's online is criminally underrated, and not once have I ever struggled to get online,

and play a game with someone.

 

 

Not been on it in a while though, starting to look forward to 007 Legends on the Wii U.

[tdalton]

Can't say that there has been one.  They've all been bad. 

 

Activision hasn't made a good Bond game yet, first person or otherwise. 

[thecasinoroyale]

I wonder what the future will hold for the Bond game licence as '007 Legends' really has shown they've killed the series now on game consoles and it needs a big 'Casino Royale'-style reboot after this 'Die Another Day'-style mess.

[Shaun Forever]

What happened to the Bond racing game that we were supposed to be getting? And no, I don't mean the terrible

007 racing lol.

[seawolfnyy]

I wonder what the future will hold for the Bond game licence as '007 Legends' really has shown they've killed the series now on game consoles and it needs a big 'Casino Royale'-style reboot after this 'Die Another Day'-style mess.

And Die Another Day was in 007 Legends. Hmm, coincidence?

[tdalton]

I wonder what the future will hold for the Bond game licence as '007 Legends' really has shown they've killed the series now on game consoles and it needs a big 'Casino Royale'-style reboot after this 'Die Another Day'-style mess.

 

 

The future more than likely holds more games of 007 LEGENDS' quality (or lack thereof) as long as Activision remains in control of the license.  Until a company that's forte isn't crappy FPS games takes over the franchise, then that's what we'll continue get, regardless of the reception that LEGENDS ended up getting.  Activision's focus is almost solely on CALL OF DUTY, and will remain there until those games stop selling.

[kronsteen63]

It took awhile to really get a feel for it, but by the time I finished 007 Legends, I really started to feel like it is the best Activision FPS Bond shooter to date.  I like the variety offered by depicting very different storylines in one game, and I'm not put off by the fact that they don't tie in together at all.  I've never really cared about story in video games anyway.  I had a hard time with the game at first, as most Bond purists might, mainly due to the fact that they completely change and "update" the films to the point that they are oftentimes unrecognizable.  Once you're over that initial shock, however, things get better.  This is actually the first Bond game I started immediately re-playing upon completion since NightFire.  My only complaint is the horrendous voice acting, especially from the Daniel Craig sound-alike.

 

Plus, I always felt that Die Another Day would make a better video game than a movie.  I was right.

 

As for the other games, QoS was pretty good, but overall forgettable.  It's better than GE Reloaded, though.  That one was straight up boring. 

[seawolfnyy]

If Activision has there way, based on the reception and sales for 007 Legends, the Bond games (at least for the time being) will be finished. Raven's game was pulled after the lackluster sales of Blood Stone and Activision will only work on something if it will sell. Sleeping Dogs (at the time called True Crime: Hong Kong) was cancelled after it was virtually finished because they didn't think it would sell. Guitar Hero was milked (16 games in 4 years) to the point that it killed itself off. The same will eventually happen to Call of Duty, unfortunately not fast enough and until it does, the virtual Bond as we know him is dead.

[thecasinoroyale]

Such a dissapoitment that the most legendary and iconic secret agent of the media world, and staple of cinema and culture over 50 years has only had 1, maybe 2 decent video game adaptations.

 

The Bond name is being milked to churn out generic shooters which is so annoying. James Bond needs a high platform once more for a really thought out, interesting, exciting and challenging game.

[Nicolas Suszczyk]

The only Activision Bond FPS I haven't played were the "GoldenEye 007" remakes, so, I satnd with my choice: QOS is their best FPS - good gameplay and tealth style, nice 3rd/1st person styles, pity we can't drive cars, but for the rest is great and addictive.

[seawolfnyy]

The only Activision Bond FPS I haven't played were the "GoldenEye 007" remakes, so, I satnd with my choice: QOS is their best FPS - good gameplay and tealth style, nice 3rd/1st person styles, pity we can't drive cars, but for the rest is great and addictive.

Yea, for activision it's definitely QoS. Of the GE remakes, I would recommend the Wii version over the 360/PS3 versions if you can. It controls better and doesn't look like a port of a six year old game. GE:R isn't necessarily a bad game (it's loads better than 007L), it's just kind of meh.

[Nicolas Suszczyk]

 

The only Activision Bond FPS I haven't played were the "GoldenEye 007" remakes, so, I satnd with my choice: QOS is their best FPS - good gameplay and tealth style, nice 3rd/1st person styles, pity we can't drive cars, but for the rest is great and addictive.

Yea, for activision it's definitely QoS. Of the GE remakes, I would recommend the Wii version over the 360/PS3 versions if you can. It controls better and doesn't look like a port of a six year old game. GE:R isn't necessarily a bad game (it's loads better than 007L), it's just kind of meh.

 

 

I see. Tried to play it with Dolphin emulator on my PC, but it's so uncomfortable to adapt the keyboard to the Wii control style that I get killed every second!

[seawolfnyy]

True. Happily the Wii version can actually be played with a normal gamecube controller. One thing activision got right.

[Nicolas Suszczyk]

True. Happily the Wii version can actually be played with a normal gamecube controller. One thing activision got right.

 

Is there a way to connect a gamecube controller to pc?

[seawolfnyy]

Try this.

 

http://answers.yahoo...info-XsyK3o19aa

[Nicolas Suszczyk]

Thanks, will check it out!