New poster book worth it?
#1
Posted 04 September 2012 - 09:53 PM
Thanks.
#2
Posted 04 September 2012 - 09:58 PM
#3
Posted 04 September 2012 - 10:05 PM
#4
Posted 04 September 2012 - 10:06 PM
#5
Posted 04 September 2012 - 10:10 PM
#6
Posted 04 September 2012 - 10:26 PM
#7
Posted 05 September 2012 - 06:23 AM
I came across it in a bookshop yesterday - it Absolutely looks worth it. Many inclusions, many many concepts. A massive great tome with its own cardboard case to it. Am sure you would love it zen. I am glad I have bought it.
#8
Posted 05 September 2012 - 01:40 PM
#9
Posted 05 September 2012 - 01:46 PM
I would definitely recommend the book though, especially at the current price. I have no idea if there are any plans to release a paperback edition down the line but I doubt if it would be significantly cheaper and at 300 pages it really is quite a weighty book so I believe the hardback offers the best protection.
Edited by Stainless Steel Teeth INC, 05 September 2012 - 01:47 PM.
#10
Posted 05 September 2012 - 02:59 PM
It is simply chock full of unused poster concepts.
It would have been nice if all the Marler Hayler artworks had been found and published. Also, but perhaps irrelevantly, all the US and UK lobby cards. (But this last is something close to my heart, but as they have shown some examples, I found myself wondering about all)
Simply, at £22 from Amazon, it is undoubtedly worth every penny.
#11
Posted 05 September 2012 - 03:22 PM
#12
Posted 06 September 2012 - 06:40 PM
Its much larger then I was expecting and I wasn't expecting the double sided cover which was nice with the SF teaser on the back of the book.
The book comes with 2 small posters: 1) of OP (like the cover but while background) and the 2nd) of DN although it is does not even look like Conney IMO
For 57 dollars Canadian:
I think it should came with the '50th Anniversary poster' which doesn't even get a full page in the book and the SF teaser poster.
It is to bad they couldn't wait and release this after the release of the SF poster because it almost seems incomplete near the end of the book.
I think it should have had the VHS and DVD covers too, I think it would really have added to the book. But that's just me.
Overall I don't know how to feel about it just yet, its very larger and really nice but some images are repeated with small differences and like I said it feels empty by the time you get to SF.
This book probably does better with someone interested in art and design but makes for an excellent coffee table book.
#13
Posted 09 September 2012 - 06:39 PM
I'm sure I'll buy it eventually. But I won't feel compelled to review it. Not being able to get good info on it has been frustrating. But I appreciate the feedback here.
#14
Posted 09 September 2012 - 07:05 PM
Joking aside, there are numerous concept art inclusions, but, as per your previous wondering, none for Moonraker or Octopussy.
It has also surpassed itself in terms of poster interpretations from various, for want of a better word, minority locations.
Zen, do you have any specific requests for information as I am happy to answer them. It is a good buy though - and I do have the previous two poster books with which to compare.
#15
Posted 09 September 2012 - 07:18 PM
As to the poster book, the concept art is what really makes it worth it for me. I love that stuff. Thanks for answering my MR OP question.
My concern is that many of the sections are just repeats of the Nourmand book with lobby cards thrown in. Also, I really don't care about foreign language posters unless the artwork is truly unique. The Japanese posters are a huge yawn for me, yet they get full pages in Nourmand book, which then leaves out the NSNA and FYEO U.S. one-sheets. Certainty I'd like to know that this book is complete with all the U.S. and UK posters. I'd love something that could almost be used as a checklist.
In fact, I'm staring to think my caution here is because I felt burned by the Nourmand book. It didn't seem put together by someone who really knew much about the posters or what to include. And it really skimped on the non-Connery films.
#16
Posted 09 September 2012 - 08:50 PM
#17
Posted 09 September 2012 - 10:45 PM
There are various copy mistakes in this poster book, to be sure. I was thinking of going through it to list them all but then I thought the various poster forums would have more of an interest in that guff than necessarily here - and then those forums would know them all anyway. But, for sake of argument, there are various UK DC/Crowns, industry adverts and lobby card title cards that are listed as teasers of one form or another - which are Not.
This poster book is not a checklist and there are several US and UK posters not included. Also for the interminably anal, none of the variations have been included that cover the slight text changes between art. For example, there are five US Skyfall teaser 1 sheets (the black gunbarrel tunnel art) all with differing text and, historically, four Moonraker Blasting off teaser posters. Again, maybe not the forum for this.
The checklist function would probably be better served by the internet - www.bondposters.com might be a start for this.
I must agree with the Japanese posters which to my mind, as art, is nothing more than a jumble of images thrown together from a great height, upon which lines of Japanese text flits in, out and around the resultant mess. To each his own, I s'pose.
By comparison, the Nourmand book is hopeless, especially as he is considered as a poster kingpin in the UK. And I think that some of his statements or supposed veracity has been lifted straight from that - all the above mistakes are present and correct in Nourmand's book.
zen, judging from your requirements you might be better off leaving alone.
#18
Posted 10 September 2012 - 12:24 AM
Next I'll have to talked into the Bond on Set book.
The Archive book...way too much money.
#19
Posted 10 September 2012 - 12:36 AM
The Dalton concepts from TLD and LTK are worth the price of admission alone, IMHO.
Over 300 pages, slipcased, with 2 prints for $31?
Nice to have CR 67 and NSNA included in the fold, finally.
And Simon, just as you say the "On Set" books aren't meant to be "Making of's", this book doesn't claim to have every Bond poster ever made.
While I am sorry that it doesn't include double bills (except for 1 on the final page!), triple bills, festivals, tie-ins, etc. etc. I know that if it did, it would drive up the page count and the sale price significantly.
I think this is the perfect forum for corrections, additional info, etc. so I'd be interested in seeing what you've found wrong.
For OHMSS - they picture the 6 repro photobustas - not the original set of 10.
#20
Posted 10 September 2012 - 08:40 AM
Now zencas, you're just being contrary!Thanks guys. I'm going to get it. The concept art, the inclusion of CR and QOS, and the overall packaging is worth the price, I think.
A slew of posts suggesting you get it, and you conclude otherwise. My post saying it might not be up your street, and you decide again otherwise.
As for the Bond on Set - I think they are a waste of time for the Information hungry. So get it!
#21
Posted 10 September 2012 - 02:35 PM
I agree with you about the Bond on Set books. I'm might hold off on that one until the price hits rock bottom. Maybe.
#22
Posted 10 September 2012 - 04:03 PM
#23
Posted 10 September 2012 - 06:40 PM
Yes.
#24
Posted 14 September 2012 - 04:20 PM
Very happy with it. It's much better organized than the Nourmand book and rectifies many of the problems I had with that book (look, there's the FYEO U.S. one-sheet!). LOVE all the concept art (TSWLM!) and I think the captions are very informative. Really like that they translate the foreign posters.
I noticed a few omissions in the later films (no TND U.S. teaser?). And that is not the NSNA U.S. one-sheet. Also some omissions and mis-dating in OP and AVTAK.
But overall very very nicely done. Glad I got it.
#25
Posted 14 September 2012 - 10:33 PM
A number of movie poster forums don't quite know what to do with it as no one seems to want to own it. As it is, in terms of hands up who thinks it belongs where, the consensus is that it is a US 1 sheet of some description. It isn't necessarily the Australian 1 sheet.
As for omissions, there are many but I don't think the book set out to be a checklist as I think is understood above. Tragically, omission-wise, a complete run down of all the Odeon cinema Marley Hayley posters haven't been incorporated. For my part, it would have been superb to have seen all the five poster designs (1 quad + 4 DCs) that made up the complete display. (The display also incorporated the main UK quad)
I may go through it at some point and make a list of errors as I see them - see what others think of what I think.
Otherwise, happy you're happy with it as I think it deserves kudos.
So, Bond on Set??
#26
Posted 14 September 2012 - 10:39 PM
I have the actual poster. It's bizarre. It's not even a standard one-sheet size, it's a little shorter. I don't know why it would be considered a U.S. poster when it doesn't list the U.S. distributor (Warner Bros) or the U.S. rating. Find out where the film was distributed by PSO and we'll have our answer.There is a major question mark over the NSNA 1 sheet listed in the book.
A number of movie poster forums don't quite know what to do with it as no one seems to want to own it. As it is, in terms of hands up who thinks it belongs where, the consensus is that it is a US 1 sheet of some description. It isn't necessarily the Australian 1 sheet.
EDIT: Oh, scratch that, PSO was a producer on the film, not a distributor. It might have been a poster PSO whipped up themselves to market the film to international distributors. Poster art that could be used in these territories. Makes sense that they couldn't offer up the WB art.
#27
Posted 15 September 2012 - 08:03 AM
Might explain the title logo which also doesn't bear any relationship to anything, anywhere else. I'll put your theory up and see who bites.
Cheers.
#28
Posted 15 September 2012 - 03:11 PM
#29
Posted 15 September 2012 - 03:30 PM
After sending DK an email containg 55 seperate comments concerning the errors and text omissions in the book they have now apparently pulled it from Amazon.
I understand they now intend to reprint it in a corrected version.
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#30
Posted 15 September 2012 - 03:46 PM