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[bond_azoozbond]

Well I need craig for two or more bond movies but I saw this thing , and I think its have a great elements first Nolan and then Michael Fassbender as bond ...
check the trailer : http://movieline.com...mes-bond-video/

[mrevans]

Nolan is an excellent choice. He elevated the Dark Knight above being a great Batman movie to the level of being a great, standout film. Nolan could do the same for Bond with general audiences. Not that this hasn't been done before. Casino Royale accomplished this in many ways. I recently saw Haywire and every minute Michael Fassbender was on screen he really stole the show for me. I really wish he had played a larger part. He does seem natural in the the role of James Bond to me. I don't know what he would be like actually playing the role. I don't think we've gotten a real glimpse of what his Bond would be like. We can cite Haywire or Xmen: First Class all day but those were two characters different from Bond with different motivations. I think a lot of potential is there and if Fassbender happens to get the role I am very eager to see this portrayal.

[AgenttiNollaNollaSeitsemän]

In my opinion Christopher Nolan is the most overrated filmmaker of today. Neither of his Bat-flicks nor Inception were good but exercises of shallowness portrayed as profound. The way I see it, Nolan worship is as annoying as Tarantino worship of mid-to-late 90's...
Fassbender on the other hand wouldn't be too bad as Craigs successor in the role.

Edited by AgenttiNollaNollaSeitsemän, 30 June 2012 - 04:04 PM.

[Dustin]

I suppose both Tarantino and Nolan are as much a sign of their times as they are relevant in their own right. Both hit a certain nerve, fill a gap the audience didn't exactly know was there before they were told so, and in the end both will have to prove their value beyond the fashionable fad in the future. Both directors suffer from the modern habit to proclaim a new genius every other month.

[AgenttiNollaNollaSeitsemän]

I suppose both Tarantino and Nolan are as much a sign of their times as they are relevant in their own right. Both hit a certain nerve, fill a gap the audience didn't exactly know was there before they were told so, and in the end both will have to prove their value beyond the fashionable fad in the future. Both directors suffer from the modern habit to proclaim a new genius every other month.

I agree wholeheartedly. And Tarantino certainly has proven himself... as a hack.

Edited by AgenttiNollaNollaSeitsemän, 30 June 2012 - 05:13 PM.

[marktmurphy]

It should work better than it does, that trailer. I think not having 'Bond' speak means he's not much of a presence in it.

[tdalton]

In my opinion Christopher Nolan is the most overrated filmmaker of today. Neither of his Bat-flicks nor Inception were good but exercises of shallowness portrayed as profound. The way I see it, Nolan worship is as annoying as Tarantino worship of mid-to-late 90's...
Fassbender on the other hand wouldn't be too bad as Craigs successor in the role.

I very much agree on this point, although I will say that I do enjoy BATMAN BEGINS and, to a lesser extent, INSOMNIA. But the rest of Nolan's resume I think fits your description quite well.

Also agreed on Fassbender, although I hope by the time that Craig is done in the role he'll be too old to take over.

Welcome to CBn, by the way.

[marktmurphy]

Nolan is Emperor's new clothes as far as I'm concerned. People seem to think his stuff is deep when there's nothing there at all (see the bizarre debate over the spinning top at the end of Inception. There can't be any mystery there: it doesn't make sense any other way. Also see the note in The Prestige passed from one Londoner to the other: 'meet me at the Aldwych, London'. Moronic.).

[x007AceOfSpades]

I enjoy Nolan's work very much, I would enjoy a Bond film from Nolan very much. I don't even remember where it was on CBn that I posted that I just didn't want Tarantino anywhere near the Bond Franchise at all. Is Nolan overrated? No. Why? Because die-hard Nolan fans, including critics as well make Nolan out to be this generations greatest director of all time. I'm a die-hard Nolan fan and I believe it's the fanbase and following he has that makes him overrated. Same thing with Tarantino, except he's just completely un-original post Jacky Brown era.

[Joey Bond]

I really like Fassbender but I think he would even be better as a villain, maybe an Alec Trevelyan type who is a physical as well as intellectual match to Craig's Bond. The scenes between Craig and Fassbender would be amazing.

As for Nolan, I like his films a lot. The only problem with him directing a Bond film is that he, like Tarantino, has his own style. When I went to watch Inception I knew nothing about the film, not even who was directing it, but within a few minutes I could tell it was a Nolan film. The Hans Zimmer music and just the style and feel of it gave it away. A Nolan-directed Bond film will feel like a Bond film set in Nolan's universe rather than a Bond film set in Bond's universe. Also, I doubt Wilson and Broccoli will give him that much creative control, and I doubt Nolan will be ok with having such limited control.

[Pussfeller]

Fassbender would make an excellent villain. And given his rising profile, that's probably the only capacity in which he might actually appear in a Bond film.

[The Shark]

Nolan is Emperor's new clothes as far as I'm concerned.

Yep. A humourless, dull, one note, autistic director with zero understanding of the human condition. Completely wrong for Bond.

[Loomis]

Nolan is Emperor's new clothes as far as I'm concerned.

Yep. A humourless, dull, one note, autistic director with zero understanding of the human condition. Completely wrong for Bond.

Couldn't agree more.

[Dustin]

I wouldn't resort to such a harsh verdict on Nolan as director. But there does seem to be a discrepancy between public hype and actual relevance for the medium. Not at all unheard of these days, hype is sky-rocketing many names these days, only to have them utterly forgotten within a short period.

[seawolfnyy]

The thing about Nolan is that he writes most of his films. With Bond, I don't think he would write it, just direct. I think Man of Steel will be a good indication of how he would handle Bond (although he is producing that film not directing). I believe Nolan would do well as long as he doesn't cast Marion Cotillard. She was easily the worst part of Inception and The Dark Knight Rises. As for Fassbender, I don't believe he would be too old. Assuming Craig is done at 5, Bond 26 would release in 2018 or 2019 making Fassbender 41-42. Brosnan and Dalton were both early 40s when they started and Moore was almost 46. However, I see him as a villain and not as Bond. I think Bond 7 will be Henry Cavill. He fits the classic Bond look and he'll be 36-37 after Craig's 5th. He was nearly cast instead of Craig, except he was 22 at the time.

[Pussfeller]

When Craig retires, there will be a lot of talk about Cavill, but I think we can rule him out. In the first place, he was not really "the runner-up" to Craig. He was merely the favorite of Martin Campbell. Eon wasn't interested, and it's Eon who will select Craig's replacement. Moreover, Cavill's career path has taken him out of the running. An actor who has played Superman will never play James Bond. Even without Superman, his profile is already too high for him to be considered, and his profile (and price) will be even higher in 2020 or whenever the time comes to cast a new Bond. Basically, I think he's the new Hugh Jackman. He'll be photoshopped into an Aston Martin and heralded as "the obvious choice". Then Eon will announce another guy that Americans have never heard of.

[S K Y F A L L]

I really don't mind Marion Cotillard, I noticed she isn't the most popular.

As for Fassbender where did the Nolan connection come from? I think he is out of the question now that he is in the X Men franchise.

And for Nolan, he has a lot of time to prove himself to EON hes only 42.

[x007AceOfSpades]

After The Dark Knight Rises, I don't want Nolan and Co. anywhere near Bond. Speaking Of which Inception was I believe the first film of a 7 or 8 Picture Contract deal with Warner Bros. So it might be a while which is all the better for me. I remember reading this, but lost the article and this was back in 2010.

[seawolfnyy]

When Craig retires, there will be a lot of talk about Cavill, but I think we can rule him out. In the first place, he was not really "the runner-up" to Craig. He was merely the favorite of Martin Campbell. Eon wasn't interested, and it's Eon who will select Craig's replacement. Moreover, Cavill's career path has taken him out of the running. An actor who has played Superman will never play James Bond. Even without Superman, his profile is already too high for him to be considered, and his profile (and price) will be even higher in 2020 or whenever the time comes to cast a new Bond. Basically, I think he's the new Hugh Jackman. He'll be photoshopped into an Aston Martin and heralded as "the obvious choice". Then Eon will announce another guy that Americans have never heard of.

I had heard of Daniel Craig before Casino Royale. I remember way back when I first saw him upstage Angelina Jolie in Tomb Raider and I also remember him from Munich and Archangel.

[Pussfeller]

And I bet you'd heard of Hugh Laurie before 2004. I'm talking about real Americans. Of course you and I knew about Craig, because we're the sort of scarf-wearing transatlantic pinkos who spend our welfare checks on BBC box sets (and heroin-flavored bananas). But decent folk like J. W. and Maybelle had never heard of no Donald Cregg.

[x007AceOfSpades]

When Craig retires, there will be a lot of talk about Cavill, but I think we can rule him out. In the first place, he was not really "the runner-up" to Craig. He was merely the favorite of Martin Campbell. Eon wasn't interested, and it's Eon who will select Craig's replacement. Moreover, Cavill's career path has taken him out of the running. An actor who has played Superman will never play James Bond. Even without Superman, his profile is already too high for him to be considered, and his profile (and price) will be even higher in 2020 or whenever the time comes to cast a new Bond. Basically, I think he's the new Hugh Jackman. He'll be photoshopped into an Aston Martin and heralded as "the obvious choice". Then Eon will announce another guy that Americans have never heard of.

I had heard of Daniel Craig before Casino Royale. I remember way back when I first saw him upstage Angelina Jolie in Tomb Raider and I also remember him from Munich and Archangel.

And upstage he did, and I forgot about Archangel, what a great mini-series that was.

[seawolfnyy]

When Craig retires, there will be a lot of talk about Cavill, but I think we can rule him out. In the first place, he was not really "the runner-up" to Craig. He was merely the favorite of Martin Campbell. Eon wasn't interested, and it's Eon who will select Craig's replacement. Moreover, Cavill's career path has taken him out of the running. An actor who has played Superman will never play James Bond. Even without Superman, his profile is already too high for him to be considered, and his profile (and price) will be even higher in 2020 or whenever the time comes to cast a new Bond. Basically, I think he's the new Hugh Jackman. He'll be photoshopped into an Aston Martin and heralded as "the obvious choice". Then Eon will announce another guy that Americans have never heard of.

I had heard of Daniel Craig before Casino Royale. I remember way back when I first saw him upstage Angelina Jolie in Tomb Raider and I also remember him from Munich and Archangel.

And upstage he did, and I forgot about Archangel, what a great mini-series that was.

It really was. Too bad it never really got any attention. As for Nolan, I do believe he could pull off a good Bond film if he were to do it AS A BOND FILM and leave his personal touches out of it. Unlike most, I'm not a TDKR hater. The biggest problem with a Nolan Bond film is that I can tell you the cast right now without him having been announced:

James Bond Christian Bale
Villain Tom Hardy
M Michael Caine
Q Morgan Freeman
Bond girls Scarlett Johansson
Marion Cotillard
Ken Watanabe, Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Cillian Murphy would also have parts. It would be too predictable.

Personally, I think David O. Russell would make a great director. Also, here's one out of left field, how about Kathryn Bigelow as the first female Bond director?

And I bet you'd heard of Hugh Laurie before 2004. I'm talking about real Americans. Of course you and I knew about Craig, because we're the sort of scarf-wearing transatlantic pinkos who spend our welfare checks on BBC box sets (and heroin-flavored bananas). But decent folk like J. W. and Maybelle had never heard of no Donald Cregg.

Yep, you know me too well.

[SecretAgentFan]

I do think that Nolan is overrated. But I also do think Nolan is a very talented, highly capable and intelligent director. The recent backlash is the typical reaction to someone being hyped and riding a wave of success for a long time.

What I absolute disagree with is the notion that Nolan would make a Bond film with the same cast as his Batman films. There is no reason to believe that he would do that. And he definitely is too clever for such lame-ness.

Visually, I think he would deliver a very interesting Bond film. He is a fan. He knows what he´s doing. But I doubt that the series needs his touch right now. IMO, they need to lighten things up more. That does not mean that I would want a Brett Ratner-kind of director next. Without having seen SKYFALL (which I hope will be brillliant in every which way), just the fact that we will see Bond in a very deep personal crisis that will have an emotional finale strengthens my wish for a Craig entry without angst and any private attachment for the main character.

And Nolan would probably not be interested in that. This, of course, is just me drawing a conclusion from Nolan´s previous films.

[S K Y F A L L]

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Personally, I think David O. Russell would make a great director. Also, here's one out of left field, how about Kathryn Bigelow as the first female Bond director?

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Yep, you know me too well.

I've been suggesting Kathryn Bigelow for a while now as the first female Bond director and just a few weeks ago Barbara was asked about her in an interview and she said she would be delighted to have her. Although I'm sure she would have said that about anyone on the spot and was just being professional.

[Emma]

Nolan is a bit hit and miss for me. But I really enjoyed Inception, Batman Begins and The Dark Knight Rises. And I think that he would be a great director for Bond films. And he's a massive Bond fan as well


I strongly believe if it weren't for Batman Begins we wouldn't have gotten the re-boot of Bond films. Fassbender seems like a nice fellow but I would not want to see him as Bond. Christian Bale or Chris Hemsworth would be ideal in the role.

Nolan is Emperor's new clothes as far as I'm concerned.

Yep. A humourless, dull, one note, autistic director with zero understanding of the human condition. Completely wrong for Bond.

Hyperbole much? Granted CR is a stellar film and portrays Bond as multi-faceted human being. But for the most part the films are just a one note hetero male wish fullfillment fantasy. To carry on as if Bond films are on par with Shakespear or have some deep intellectual meaning is disengenuous and silly.

Edited by Emma, 11 October 2012 - 04:26 PM.

[The Shark]

Hyperbole much? Granted CR is a stellar film and portrays Bond as multi-faceted human being. But for the most part the films are just a one note hetero male wish fullfillment fantasy. To carry on as if Bond films are on par with Shakespear or have some deep intellectual meaning is disengenuous and silly.

Maybe, but at least they're funny.

[Pussfeller]

Hyperbole much? Granted CR is a stellar film and portrays Bond as multi-faceted human being. But for the most part the films are just a one note hetero male wish fullfillment fantasy. To carry on as if Bond films are on par with Shakespear or have some deep intellectual meaning is disengenuous and silly.

The parallels between Bond and Shakespeare are countless: violence, dick jokes, possible racism, quotable dialogue, exotic locales, Judi Dench, stock characters, fiendish plots, an excessive number of Italians...

[bey-columbo]

Just imagine the poster...

Director : Christopher Nolan

James Bond : Michael Fassbender

Bad guy : Christoph Waltz

Bond girl : Noomi Rapace

Composer : Hans Zimmer

Action places : Sweden, France, Kenya, Australia, Japan.

[Mike00spy]

No to both

[x007AceOfSpades]

I don't want to imagine that.