From Sussex with Love? Budget rumours.
#31
Posted 18 January 2012 - 09:59 AM
File this under bitter, twisted, made-up junk. ie anything in The Mirror about Bond.
#32
Posted 18 January 2012 - 12:13 PM
#33
Posted 18 January 2012 - 12:51 PM
As Kananga would say, the story is an old one, the record a clear one. A publication with no reputation at stake has once more created a piece of specious fiction, based on a few rumors and half-truths. This fiction will be regurgitated by other publications of incrementally higher repute, until even credible newspapers begin to report it. (You know, "journalism".) If the crapball gathers enough momentum, it will be necessary for someone from the production to squelch it.
If people are inclined to believe this, or even just to "wait and see", it's because they have no memory of the way these papers work. And noting that the story is plausible says nothing about its veracity. The more plausible a tabloid is, the less I believe it.
#34
Posted 18 January 2012 - 01:24 PM
Her name is Fiona Cummins and she was there to represent… yes, you guessed it, The Daily Mirror.
She managed to get in two questions (yes two!) and both were irrelevant to the business at hand and were intended as snipes at Dan’s personal life. It created quite an uncomfortable atmosphere. She then skulked back up the road to Farringdon where she penned that poisonous write-up “Meet James Bland”, part of which had the audacity to criticise his looks.
How a greasy-haired harridan such as Cummins could have the cheek to comment disparagingly on anyone’s appearance is beyond me.
#35
Posted 18 January 2012 - 01:33 PM
Or, maybe it's because we should just "wait and see" instead of jumping to our own conclusions?If people are inclined to believe this, or even just to "wait and see", it's because they have no memory of the way these papers work. And noting that the story is plausible says nothing about its veracity. The more plausible a tabloid is, the less I believe it.
#36
Posted 18 January 2012 - 01:40 PM
Or, maybe it's because we should just "wait and see" instead of jumping to our own conclusions?If people are inclined to believe this, or even just to "wait and see", it's because they have no memory of the way these papers work. And noting that the story is plausible says nothing about its veracity. The more plausible a tabloid is, the less I believe it.
Should we “wait and see” with every bit of rubbish spun-out by every notorious liar in the world?
Not worth it in my opinion.
#37
Posted 18 January 2012 - 01:42 PM
We don't know that it is rubbish yet.
Or, maybe it's because we should just "wait and see" instead of jumping to our own conclusions?If people are inclined to believe this, or even just to "wait and see", it's because they have no memory of the way these papers work. And noting that the story is plausible says nothing about its veracity. The more plausible a tabloid is, the less I believe it.
Should we “wait and see” with every bit of rubbish spun-out by every notorious liar in the world?
Not worth it in my opinion.
#38
Posted 18 January 2012 - 01:53 PM
We don't know that it is rubbish yet.
But there is absolutely no reason to believe it or even give it the time of day. This is compounded by the fact that it comes from an organisation full of notorious liars.
There might be a grain of truth in there somewhere - perhaps Eon has looked at a location situated on the British coast for some reason. But the Mirror has contorted it into their usual bile.
Experience tells me that this is at the very least 99% rubbish.
#39
Posted 18 January 2012 - 02:01 PM
"Everyone is confident this will be one of the best Bonds ever," doesn't sound like much of an attack on James Bond to me.
#40
Posted 18 January 2012 - 02:02 PM
#41
Posted 18 January 2012 - 02:09 PM
Try to make something down to earth, with less big action, less need for location work then it comes together nicely. Try to make a big and bombastic location and action fest then you'd better have the money or it will look cheap.
What I'm saying is, I don't care if the budget is cut or not cut. It's how they use what they have that counts - but I'd be worried if there were last minute changes. In a scenario where they had plan A that was going to cost them $200m to make but had been forced to cut this to $150m once the cameras are rolling, we would see the impact on the screen. If the budget was slimiline to begin with I'm sure they would cope.
But frankly, unless they play me a clip from someone's voice mail, I simply don't believe anything red tops print. Safer that way.
#42
Posted 18 January 2012 - 02:13 PM
Where's the bite? It's a pretty matter-of-fact report from what I can see.
"Everyone is confident this will be one of the best Bonds ever," doesn't sound like much of an attack on James Bond to me.
It’s not so much an outright attack as a series of snipes.
The notion that Bognor can stand in for Bali is intended to make Eon sound ridiculous.
The Budget cuts talk is intended to make the whole thing sound cheapjack and uncertain.
The “but everyone involved thinks it will be great anyway” stuff is just intended to make the filmmakers sound deluded and foolish.
We aren't obliged to believe any given claim unless and until it can be positively refuted. If someone tells me there's an invisible teapot on Mars, my response isn't to "wait and see". There's every reason to dismiss this as rubbish. In the unlikely event that it turns out to have been true, I'll reconsider my assessment of this publication.
Exactly.
#43
Posted 18 January 2012 - 02:32 PM
It's not the size, it's how you use it!
That’s as may be.
But said film would have to be written and pre-produced with that budget in mind.
It is quite a different thing to take a film though writing and preproduction with one budget in mind only to have that slashed by a significant percentage during filming.
I have absolutely no reason to believe that Sony would do that to Eon. And even less reason to think that Eon would stand for it.
#44
Posted 18 January 2012 - 03:47 PM
#45
Posted 18 January 2012 - 04:39 PM
It doesn't read that way to me. But I suppose these things are open to individual interpretation.
Where's the bite? It's a pretty matter-of-fact report from what I can see.
"Everyone is confident this will be one of the best Bonds ever," doesn't sound like much of an attack on James Bond to me.
It’s not so much an outright attack as a series of snipes.
The notion that Bognor can stand in for Bali is intended to make Eon sound ridiculous.
The Budget cuts talk is intended to make the whole thing sound cheep jack and uncertain.
The “but everyone involved thinks it will be great anyway” stuff is just intended to make the filmmakers sound deluded and foolish.
#46
Posted 18 January 2012 - 04:45 PM
That’s as may be. But said film would have to be written and pre-produced with that budget in mind. It is quite a different thing to take a film though writing and preproduction with one budget in mind only to have that slashed by a significant percentage during filming. I have absolutely no reason to believe that Sony would do that to Eon. And even less reason to think that Eon would stand for it.It's not the size, it's how you use it!
Which is pretty much what I wrote... so why the selective quoting? :-)
#47
Posted 18 January 2012 - 05:07 PM
That’s as may be. But said film would have to be written and pre-produced with that budget in mind. It is quite a different thing to take a film though writing and preproduction with one budget in mind only to have that slashed by a significant percentage during filming. I have absolutely no reason to believe that Sony would do that to Eon. And even less reason to think that Eon would stand for it.It's not the size, it's how you use it!
Which is pretty much what I wrote... so why the selective quoting? :-)
Sorry about that, it’s just that you seemed to be arguing from both sides.
So I just attached my point to the first bit. As I say, sorry – it now seems a bit unfair when I read it back. :-)
#48
Posted 18 January 2012 - 08:56 PM
Say it isn't so ...
#49
Posted 18 January 2012 - 09:00 PM
#50
Posted 18 January 2012 - 10:27 PM
The Evening Standard also reported the same story, certainly not a tabloid paper.
Yes it is and a particularly foul one at that.
It used to be the London sister paper of the Daily Mail, until it was sold off, and has similar principals and outlooks. Anyway, now it’s a trashy freebie shoved into the hands of anyone too knackered after a day’s work to just say “NO!”.
#51
Posted 18 January 2012 - 10:54 PM
If you read the actual story, they trace it back to The Mirror. Look at this:Say it isn't so ...
India was scrapped months ago, and there were never any plans to film in Bali. Plus, we already know Daniel Craig is en route to Shanghai before joining production in Turkey.The new James Bond is to be filmed on beaches in Bognor Regis and Wales after locations in India, China and Bali were ruled out because of budget cuts.
As has already been said, The Mirror does not like Bond, and they will take any chance they get to discredit it.
#52
Posted 18 January 2012 - 11:34 PM
Very good.I hope we're in for some gratuitous Sussex and violence.
#53
Posted 18 January 2012 - 11:46 PM
If you read the actual story, they trace it back to The Mirror. Look at this:
Say it isn't so ...India was scrapped months ago, and there were never any plans to film in Bali. Plus, we already know Daniel Craig is en route to Shanghai before joining production in Turkey.The new James Bond is to be filmed on beaches in Bognor Regis and Wales after locations in India, China and Bali were ruled out because of budget cuts.
As has already been said, The Mirror does not like Bond, and they will take any chance they get to discredit it.
He is? I must have missed that.
#54
Posted 19 January 2012 - 12:01 AM
Un mot sur Skyfall où vous reprenez du service comme 007 pour la troisième fois?
Le film sortira à l'occasion du 50e anniversaire du premier James Bond, Docteur No. Sam Mendes et moi sommes bien conscients de l'énorme responsabilité vis-à-vis de cette franchise. A savoir rester fidèles à un univers très particulier tout en continuant à lui insuffler de la modernité et faire de Bond un héros aussi réaliste et crédible que possible. J'ai interdiction de dévoiler quoi que ce soit sur l'intrigue mais je peux dire que le script est vraiment réussi, à la différence de celui de Quantum of Solace. Je peux aussi vous promettre un Bond intense et bourré d'action non-stop avec de nouveaux personnages en plus des anciens habituels. Et quelques séquences tournées à Shanghaï...
http://www.lefigaro....a-o-je-suis.php
the last sentence at least means there will be some shooting in Shanghai. Doesn't confirm he will be there, but why else would he mention that?
Thank you.
#55
Posted 19 January 2012 - 12:27 AM
I know it's a bit vague, but the source of that remark is definitely trustworthy and in a position to know. Maybe extensive scenes in Shanghai are now just a few establishing shots? Who knows?
I wonder if they'll use that technique they used in Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol, where they faked it digitally so it looked like Tom Cruise was walking outside the Kremlin. They clearly didn't set foot anywhere near the Kremlin. A shame if that's how they do it.
#56
Posted 19 January 2012 - 12:31 AM
I was told about 2 months ago by a friend of a friend who is working on the film that "filming in Shanghai has been scrapped, they're building sets at Pinewood now". So this ties in with that.
I know it's a bit vague, but the source of that remark is definitely trustworthy and in a position to know. Maybe extensive scenes in Shanghai are now just a few establishing shots? Who knows?
I wonder if they'll use that technique they used in Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol, where they faked it digitally so it looked like Tom Cruise was walking outside the Kremlin. They clearly didn't set foot anywhere near the Kremlin. A shame if that's how they do it.
Craig said they were shooting in Shaghai in the interview above. I'd say he's pretty trustworthy. We know that interiors will be shot at Pinewood (they practically always are), but the exteriors will be the real Shanghai, as will the "other parts of China" Mendes promised.
#57
Posted 19 January 2012 - 12:33 AM
Cool, I actually hope I'm wrong. I'm seeing that friend again soon so will grill him!Craig said they were shooting in Shaghai in the interview above. I'd say he's pretty trustworthy. We know that interiors will be shot at Pinewood (they practically always are), but the exteriors will be the real Shanghai, as will the "other parts of China" Mendes promised.
#58
Posted 19 January 2012 - 03:56 AM
#59
Posted 19 January 2012 - 04:04 AM
OK, first I've heard of this but it sounds like total tabloid cr#p to me.
Finally, reading this article, it attributes the original story to The Daily Mirror, who absolutely despise Bond and will not hesitate to run a story making it look bad.yeah i saw that too. that makes no sence. I say total BS.
#60
Posted 19 January 2012 - 04:10 AM