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#1 jboy

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 03:48 AM

I know there has been much said about the lack of edge with Deaver's Bond, but what continued to strike me was how little style his Bond had.

I mean, he used a Blackberry holster on his belt? Hell, I.T. guys at my company mock guys on their team that do that.

The clothes he described sounded like something Deaver would wear as opposed to Bond and using a Subaru as the go to high performance vehicle was simply dull.

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 05:00 AM

I mean, he used a Blackberry holster on his belt? Hell, I.T. guys at my company mock guys on their team that do that.

What else was he supposed to do with it? Carry it around in his hands?

using a Subaru as the go to high performance vehicle was simply dull.

In South Africa - hardly a country where a car like the Bentley would be noticed and remembered.

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 05:38 AM

I mean, he used a Blackberry holster on his belt? Hell, I.T. guys at my company mock guys on their team that do that.

1. He used a modified iPhone, not a BlackBerry. 2. He didn't have a holster for it on his belt. If I'm wrong, can you provide a page number?

The clothes he described sounded like something Deaver would wear as opposed to Bond and using a Subaru as the go to high performance vehicle was simply dull.

Bond used the Subaru in the field so you can't judge him. Don't forget, his personal car was a Bentley. I'm not a big fan of the Bentley but at least it exudes class.

5 posts in 3 years. Nice work, jboy!

#4 Dustin

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 06:32 AM

I remember Bond in OHMSS renting a Simca Aronde, fairly common low-key car at the time. Well, today even Bentleys are Volkswagens, aren't they? Might as well criticise the Continental on that basis.

#5 marktmurphy

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 01:12 PM

Bond used the Subaru in the field so you can't judge him. Don't forget, his personal car was a Bentley. I'm not a big fan of the Bentley but at least it exudes class.


Some would say it's a little chintzy.

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 10:33 PM

5 posts in 3 years. Nice work, jboy!



I didn't know there was a scoreboard that was relevant.

I guess if I took the time to scroll through a novel to find an exact reference, it would mean I have less important things to do in my life to increase my posts.

Anyway, the inside of a sports coat or suit jacket is perfect for a smartphone.

#7 OmarB

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Posted 27 November 2011 - 01:35 AM

Really? A thread based upon "style" forwarding a case for his phone and a rented car? It's not like he could have taken the Bently with him or driven it to Africa considering the book took place over a very short period.

I smell someone trying to find something something to dislike and finding the flimsiest of reasons.

#8 The Shark

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Posted 27 November 2011 - 01:53 AM

I smell PMS.

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Posted 27 November 2011 - 02:06 AM

As I recall, he spent much of his time in Cape Town in jeans and a windbreaker jacket. He also sported Oakley's.

My dad often wears the same thing.

Edited by jboy, 27 November 2011 - 02:11 AM.


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Posted 27 November 2011 - 04:16 PM

As I recall, he spent much of his time in Cape Town in jeans and a windbreaker jacket. He also sported Oakley's.

My dad often wears the same thing.

I wish my dad dressed like James Bond.

#11 Dustin

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Posted 27 November 2011 - 06:06 PM

As I recall, he spent much of his time in Cape Town in jeans and a windbreaker jacket. He also sported Oakley's.

My dad often wears the same thing.


During the second half of DN Bond wears a polo shirt and canvas slacks, or in the book jeans IIRC. That's sensible attire for the occasion. Deaver's decisions there aren't a problem I think. The Oakley name-dropping would not have been necessary, looks a bit too gangsta-stylish for Bond. But the rest I suppose is OK.

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 08:14 PM

There were numerous references to "rounds" in Fleming's writing, but "bullet" was not an unknown term. In the span of a page or two of Diamonds Are Forever, we find: "Now she was safe from flying bullets . . . the bullet buried itself into the bed . . . The quiet bullet and the quiet knife crossed in mid-air" (DAF, chapter 24), and there's that vivid picture of Frasso's gun pumping "bullets into the ceiling" (DAF, chapter 19). These aren't the only examples. Fleming seems to have used "round" when writing technically, but "bullet" for dramataic effect.

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 08:24 PM


I mean, he used a Blackberry holster on his belt? Hell, I.T. guys at my company mock guys on their team that do that.

What else was he supposed to do with it? Carry it around in his hands?


Sure. Or in his pocket, between his teeth, on top of his head, between his legs. ANYTHING but a holster. Only people utterly devoid of style carry a mobile phone in a holster on their belt. It's the style of overweight sales reps with over sized bluetooth headsets permanently lodged in their ears and embarrassing dad types. It is certainly not something James Bond would be caught dead doing.

It is rather practical though.

I don't recall reading that he did use a holster though - I would tend to notice.

#14 Dustin

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 08:44 PM

I don't recall reading that he did use a holster though - I would tend to notice.


Now that you mention it - neither do I. Seems I've forgotten most of the thing already.

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 09:10 PM




I don't recall reading that he did use a holster though - I would tend to notice.


Now that you mention it - neither do I. Seems I've forgotten most of the thing already.


Easily done. I seem to recall something about rubbish.




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