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[univex]

So, if we are to believe in every rumour, this is how it would pan out?

Gunbarrel
Istambul
Main Titles
London
South Africa
Scotland


(and yes, I left out China and India, but they could still be very much in)

Edited by univex, 17 October 2011 - 05:15 PM.

[Miles Miservy]

Interesting news. From memory, there isn't a lot of space within the actual market to effect a full-blown car chase, so I presume the chase extends beyond it. For those who don't know the local geography, Smithfield Market is in Farringdon, quite a popular part of London for shooting TV/movies. THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS shot at the Farmiloe Building in May, which is only about 50m-100m up the road.

Why can't they just recreate the market on the Albert R. Broccoli 007 Stage???

[PPK_19]

Interesting news. From memory, there isn't a lot of space within the actual market to effect a full-blown car chase, so I presume the chase extends beyond it. For those who don't know the local geography, Smithfield Market is in Farringdon, quite a popular part of London for shooting TV/movies. THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS shot at the Farmiloe Building in May, which is only about 50m-100m up the road.

Why can't they just recreate the market on the Albert R. Broccoli 007 Stage???

As opposed to using the real environment?

You must be out of your mind.

[Captain Tightpants]

Last time I checked, London ain't a third world city (yet).

But nor is it the showroom of a sportscar dealership. Sure, there will be current-model Jaguars and Range Rovers about, but they won't be the only cars in the city.

[onthetracksof007]

Hmm, the Sun.. Great source!

[The Shark]

Last time I checked, London ain't a third world city (yet).

But nor is it the showroom of a sportscar dealership. Sure, there will be current-model Jaguars and Range Rovers about, but they won't be the only cars in the city.

If Bond has a choice, he'd be more likely to steal a car with a decent amount of horsepower, than a Reliant Robin. Case in point in OCTOPUSSY, when Bond drives off with the lady's Alfa Romeo GTV6 while she's in the phone box, because it's both the perfect opportunity, and packs a considerable punch.

[Guy Haines]

I'm loving this news. As a born and bread Londoner, I'll head over to Smithfields, and take some pics on my smartphone.

Well, it worked in QUANTUM OF SOLACE. Bond was driving something from the mid-1990s in Haiti, largely because you don't find too many sports cars in Port-au-Prince. I'm just afraid that if Bond only ever drives the current model of vehicle from any given manufacturer, then it would look like an advertisement.

Last time I checked, London ain't a third world city (yet).

As one from "Robin Hood's County" who hasn't been to London for heaven-knows-how-long, am I correct in thinking that Smithfield is London's meat market? Does this mean that this car chase - if it happens - might involve some sides of beef being sent flying as Bond jumps from one car to the other?

Sounds like a re-run of the TWINE PTC to me, minus the speedboats.

If, of course, it happens!

[Captain Tightpants]

If Bond has a choice, he'd be more likely to steal a car with a decent amount of horsepower, than a Reliant Robin. Case in point in OCTOPUSSY, when Bond drives off with the lady's Alfa Romeo GTV6 while she's in the phone box, because it's both the perfect opportunity, and packs a considerable punch.

And if he doesn't have a choice? If he's chasing someone through London and his car is disabled and his only choices are to take the first car available to continue the pursuit, or find a car that he likes and let the lead get away, what is he going to do?

[univex]

If Bond has a choice, he'd be more likely to steal a car with a decent amount of horsepower, than a Reliant Robin. Case in point in OCTOPUSSY, when Bond drives off with the lady's Alfa Romeo GTV6 while she's in the phone box, because it's both the perfect opportunity, and packs a considerable punch.

And if he doesn't have a choice? If he's chasing someone through London and his car is disabled and his only choices are to take the first car available to continue the pursuit, or find a car that he likes and let the lead get away, what is he going to do?

If the only car available is a Reliant Robin?...Run!
And the GTV6? Classy. I´d want one, even today Alfa rules

[Germanlady]

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So - just in case, this happens to be true, to me, if both are in what many thing will be the title sequence, then Bardem might be the henchman, since I doubt, the main guy is shown in the first minutes.

[Shrublands]

So - just in case, this happens to be true, to me, if both are in what many thing will be the title sequence, then Bardem might be the henchman, since I doubt, the main guy is shown in the first minutes.

I don’t see your reasoning here. The actors are all in for rehearsals and preparation over the next few weeks - they’ll be going over the whole film. Bardem being at Pinewood right now says nothing in regard to him appearing in the first few minutes.

[The Shark]

Yeah. Shooting in chronological order is very rare.

[Shrublands]

Yeah. Shooting in chronological order is very rare.

Yes, that too.

[Germanlady]

Yeah. Shooting in chronological order is very rare.

Yes, that too.

I was not saying, they are doing this, just that most here think, the car race MIGHT be the pre title seqauence and since we know, that will be shot first, its not far fetched to think, that Bardem might be involved -well, to me at least - but yeah, could also be that all are just rehearsing all the stunts right now.

[Shrublands]

Yeah. Shooting in chronological order is very rare.

Yes, that too.

I was not saying, they are doing this, just that most here think, the car race MIGHT be the pre title seqauence and since we know, that will be shot first, its not far fetched to think, that Bardem might be involved -well, to me at least - but yeah, could also be that all are just rehearsing all the stunts right now.

Well, it’s known that Mendes is rehearsing the film before the shoot for two weeks with the actors. Not stunts, but the whole dialog script, getting the performances/characterisations right. (Obviously, there will be stunt training too)
Bardem would need to be there for all that. Nothing to do with what they may or may not be doing on day one of the shoot.

[Germanlady]

Yeah. Shooting in chronological order is very rare.

Yes, that too.

I was not saying, they are doing this, just that most here think, the car race MIGHT be the pre title seqauence and since we know, that will be shot first, its not far fetched to think, that Bardem might be involved -well, to me at least - but yeah, could also be that all are just rehearsing all the stunts right now.

Well it’s known that Mendes is rehearsing the film before the shoot for two weeks with the actors.
Bardem would need to be there for that. Nothing to do with what they may or may not be doing on day one of the shoot.

Okay

[Shrublands]

Yeah. Shooting in chronological order is very rare.

Yes, that too.

I was not saying, they are doing this, just that most here think, the car race MIGHT be the pre title seqauence and since we know, that will be shot first, its not far fetched to think, that Bardem might be involved -well, to me at least - but yeah, could also be that all are just rehearsing all the stunts right now.

Well it’s known that Mendes is rehearsing the film before the shoot for two weeks with the actors.
Bardem would need to be there for that. Nothing to do with what they may or may not be doing on day one of the shoot.

Okay

By the way, thanks for your post letting us know that Craig & Bardem were at Pinewood getting ready for filming next month. A very good find that!

[Marketto007]

I'm loving this news. As a born and bread Londoner, I'll head over to Smithfields, and take some pics on my smartphone.

My girl is living in the city, so you'll probably see her there taking some photos too for James Bond Brasil. And wait for me on December The Shark, I'll be there to put down some pints.

xxx

[Col. Sun]

Yeah. Shooting in chronological order is very rare.

Yes, that too.

I was not saying, they are doing this, just that most here think, the car race MIGHT be the pre title seqauence and since we know, that will be shot first, its not far fetched to think, that Bardem might be involved -well, to me at least - but yeah, could also be that all are just rehearsing all the stunts right now.

Well it’s known that Mendes is rehearsing the film before the shoot for two weeks with the actors.
Bardem would need to be there for that. Nothing to do with what they may or may not be doing on day one of the shoot.

Okay

By the way, thanks for your post letting us know that Craig & Bardem were at Pinewood getting ready for filming next month. A very good find that!

The cast, such as Bardem, Judi Dench etc. won't just be rehearsing for the film, they will be doing wardrobe fittings, any work with stunt coordinators which is required etc.

Things will really be heating up now for the start of principle photography in 2 weeks time. The press will already be getting prepared to grab pics as soon as the crew start setting up
for London location work - plus local residents and fans will waste no time in posting their cell phone clips of the cast and crew in action on-line.

[AMC Hornet]

This is the first time I've been able to monitor the progress of a film in development.

I'm not sure whether I'm excited by the prospect, or if I'd prefer to avoid it altogether.

I for one don't want to know every detail of a film before I see it. Never have. I want it to be a surprise. I don't even want to hear the theme song until I see the titles flashing by with it.

And I especially don't want to read everyone else's opinions of what each leaked detail means for the film and for the series, etc, when no one can possibly put it in context until they see the finished product.

That's where/when I want to come in.

So I guess I'd better go hide my head in the sand somewhere.

(But the temptation to peek is so irresistible...!)

Edited by AMC Hornet, 20 October 2011 - 10:01 PM.

[Matt_13]

This is the first time I've been able to monitor the progress of a film in development.

I'm not sure whether I'm excited by the prospect, or if I'd prefer to avoid it altogether.

I for one don't want to know every detail of a film before I see it. Never have. I want it to be a surprise. I don't even want to hear the theme song until I see the titles flashing by with it.

And I especially don't want to read everyone else's opinions of what each leaked detail means for the film and for the series, etc, when no one can possibly put it in context until they see the finished product.

That's where/when I want to come in.

So I guess I'd better go hide my head in the sand somewhere.

(But the temptation to peek is so irresistible...!)

Casino Royale was ruined for me due largely to the fact that I had read the script and had watched every very and stared at every image that came out before the film released. Quantum was a much better experience the first time around since I managed to avoid most spoilers. Know what action scenes will be in the film and what the stunts will be won't hurt your enjoyment of the final product. It's knowing the context of the madness and the outcome of the events that winds up doing the most damage. If you see something in spoiler tags that relates to the plot, I'd avoid it. That's why I'm really hoping what I read about Duntrune Castle turns out to be false. Either way, it's a fun, relatively informative process that at the very least gives us something to do outside of work and school, though hopefully not getting in the way of interpersonal relations. Enjoy it!

[DaveBond21]

This is the first time I've been able to monitor the progress of a film in development.

I'm not sure whether I'm excited by the prospect, or if I'd prefer to avoid it altogether.

I for one don't want to know every detail of a film before I see it. Never have. I want it to be a surprise. I don't even want to hear the theme song until I see the titles flashing by with it.

And I especially don't want to read everyone else's opinions of what each leaked detail means for the film and for the series, etc, when no one can possibly put it in context until they see the finished product.

That's where/when I want to come in.

So I guess I'd better go hide my head in the sand somewhere.

(But the temptation to peek is so irresistible...!)

Casino Royale was ruined for me due largely to the fact that I had read the script and had watched every very and stared at every image that came out before the film released. Quantum was a much better experience the first time around since I managed to avoid most spoilers. Know what action scenes will be in the film and what the stunts will be won't hurt your enjoyment of the final product. It's knowing the context of the madness and the outcome of the events that winds up doing the most damage. If you see something in spoiler tags that relates to the plot, I'd avoid it. That's why I'm really hoping what I read about Duntrune Castle turns out to be false. Either way, it's a fun, relatively informative process that at the very least gives us something to do outside of work and school, though hopefully not getting in the way of interpersonal relations. Enjoy it!

I agree. I prefer to avoid spoilers but I do like to see the trailers and teasers.

I avoided the script for both of the last 2 films. I also avoid this site when the movie comes out because here in Australia we tend to get it 3 weeks later. Then when I've seen it, I return to CBn to see what everyone thought of it, and catch up on 3 weeks of comments and reviews.

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[00 Brosnan]

I've always tried to get as much info about the upcoming Bond film as I could. I can't help it and it's never ruined any part of the films for me.

I wouldn't mind the Aston Martin back (even in another car chase), but just for the sake of being different I'd love to see another brand. I like what Jaguar has been doing the last couple years.

Maybe they could go with one of the newer Lotus models (a nice 50th Anniv. nod to Moore's days as Bond as a bonus) like the current Evora or the upcoming Elite. I figure though they would go with a current and not soon to be released model so I guess the Evora has the best chance.

Lotus Elite (2014)



Lotus Evora (Current)



Both are conservative enough (design wise) to not be too.....much.

[Captain Tightpants]

With Lotus' ridiculourly-expensive marketing campaign, there's a fair chance those cars won't even enter production.

[00 Brosnan]

With Lotus' ridiculourly-expensive marketing campaign, there's a fair chance those cars won't even enter production.

The Evora is already in production and the Elite is scheduled for 2014 production. While it's true anything could happen and Lotus does have a lot of concept and upcoming cars (scheduled for years from now), 2014 isn't that long away (car wise) so I'd say there is a good chance it is made.

[Captain Tightpants]

Lotus high-risk marketing strategy involves spending millions of dollars sponsoring motorsport teams - Formula 1, GP2, GP3, Indycar and Le Mans. They're leveraged to the hilt, and the Malaysian government isn't happy that taxpayer money is being spent to pay off a debt to a Lithuanian banker named Vladimir Antonov (who put up the money for the purchase of the Renault F1 team, which Lotus is now trying to buy). They've wasted an entire year on an embarrassing and expansive and time-consuming legal case with Tony Fernandes (who owns the Team Lotus name; Colin Chapman deliberately separated Lotus' road and race-car divisions when he founded the company), and they're well behind their projected targets. There is a very real chance that Lotus could fold by the end of the year, and serious questions over their long-term viability. 2014 might not be that far away, but Group Lotus is in a perilous position right now.

As for the Evora, I'm well aware that it is currently in production - but Group Lotus tried to sell the rights to it off to Caterham. Lotus used to build a car known as the Lotus 7 that was basically a nifty little track-day car. They sold it to Caterham, who manufactured it under the name Caterham 7. Caterham was purchased by Tony Fernandes (the same Tony Fernandes who owns Team Lotus). Fernandes wants to take the 7 to Asian markets, and Group Lotus are trying to sell the rights to their back catalogue - including the Elise and the Evora models - to them in order to try and get extra money to cover the debt to Antonov.

[00 Brosnan]

Lotus high-risk marketing strategy involves spending millions of dollars sponsoring motorsport teams - Formula 1, GP2, GP3, Indycar and Le Mans. They're leveraged to the hilt, and the Malaysian government isn't happy that taxpayer money is being spent to pay off a debt to a Lithuanian banker named Vladimir Antonov (who put up the money for the purchase of the Renault F1 team, which Lotus is now trying to buy). They've wasted an entire year on an embarrassing and expansive and time-consuming legal case with Tony Fernandes (who owns the Team Lotus name; Colin Chapman deliberately separated Lotus' road and race-car divisions when he founded the company), and they're well behind their projected targets. There is a very real chance that Lotus could fold by the end of the year, and serious questions over their long-term viability. 2014 might not be that far away, but Group Lotus is in a perilous position right now.

As for the Evora, I'm well aware that it is currently in production - but Group Lotus tried to sell the rights to it off to Caterham. Lotus used to build a car known as the Lotus 7 that was basically a nifty little track-day car. They sold it to Caterham, who manufactured it under the name Caterham 7. Caterham was purchased by Tony Fernandes (the same Tony Fernandes who owns Team Lotus). Fernandes wants to take the 7 to Asian markets, and Group Lotus are trying to sell the rights to their back catalogue - including the Elise and the Evora models - to them in order to try and get extra money to cover the debt to Antonov.

Way to be a buzz-kill.

Sometimes people just want to express their desires or thoughts and not be assaulted by too-serious people who just want to throw random facts and hypothetical scenarios in your face.

[Captain Tightpants]

Sorry, but it's the truth. Lotus are in no position to supply cars for a Bond film until they get their house in order. Which could take twelve to eighteen months at least.

[ag11]

I know a guy who has worked at Smithfield Market for years and probably would know if this is true

I'll ask him

[Vauxhall]

I'm off work and planning to go along to Smithfield Market on the 7th to see if there are any signs of action. Will see what I can dig up.