33 replies to this topic

[Pierce - Daniel]

Recently I found myslef on Jesper Chirstensen's website, there you have the chance tot alk to the man directly by email. He's a great guy and responces to your messages, I really liked his rather creepy portrayal of Mr White, and was excited to see what would become of the character following QOS. Thier are really so many different avenues to head down with him.
I don;t want to go into to many details but the general feel of what Jesper seemed to be saying, is that he won't be back as White, which is a massive shame, but this is really no decision of his.
it appears then that a decision has been made elsewhere not to continue with Jesper in the part, I'm not saying this is fact, and this info may be well off the mark. but its something to ponder.
Will the part be recast? Ralph Fiennes perhaps?
In the meantime check out Jesper's sute, its a great place to find a little more out about the actor
http://www.jesperchristensen.dk/

[Loomis]

I doubt that the role will be recast (although it's possible, I guess, especially going by Eon's past actions re: Blofeld and Leiter). My feeling is that if Christensen isn't returning then White won't be returning either.

Which I'm fine with. I like the character very much (one of the coolest and most intriguing Bond villains of recent years), but less is more with White and his story does not require any "closure". Also, I quite like the idea of certain Bond villains getting away scot-free (see also Irma Bunt).

[zencat]

Not surprised. I think we might have seen the last of the whole Quantum thing, at least for Bond 23.

[Dustin]

I agree, Mr White can easily live out there and never again turn up. It wouldn't even have to affect Quantum and they could be used or left alone independendly from White.

[jaguar007]

Wasn't Christensen trash talking the Bond films and the role to the press a year or so ago? Maybe that is why he won't be returning.

[00 Brosnan]

Wasn't Christensen trash talking the Bond films and the role to the press a year or so ago? Maybe that is why he won't be returning.

From the articles I've seen, he did indeed trash CR and QoS. I also seem to recall him saying at least a year ago that he would "never play Mr. White again." If anyone Google searches, I'm sure they'll find some articles about it.

Anyway, it is kind of too bad. He played a good villain, but it's not a huge loss in my opinion.

[Davy]

I don't mind seeing him leave but I would like Quantum organisation to be recurring. I think it's a chance to pretty much re-do SPECTRE but wihout the continuity errors and inconsistent characterisation we had from constant Blofeld recasts.

[SecretAgentFan]

Well, he definitely is too easily identifiable for Mi6 now, looking like Jesper Christensen. A little cosmetic operation might be understandable then - and bang, he looks like someone else!

[sthgilyadgnivileht]

I doubt that the role will be recast (although it's possible, I guess, especially going by Eon's past actions re: Blofeld and Leiter). My feeling is that if Christensen isn't returning then White won't be returning either.

Which I'm fine with. I like the character very much (one of the coolest and most intriguing Bond villains of recent years), but less is more with White and his story does not require any "closure". Also, I quite like the idea of certain Bond villains getting away scot-free (see also Irma Bunt).

Agreed on both points.
If Quantum is used in 23 they will become more formidable if someone like White doesn't show up and is seen to get away with it.

[Loomis]

If Quantum is used in 23 they will become more formidable if someone like White doesn't show up and is seen to get away with it.

Exactly. It adds a nice bit of realism and mystery if Bond doesn't always manage to settle the score with every single last bad guy.

[DamnCoffee]

Maybe they'll include the alternate ending, where Bond shoots him? I'm pretty sure that they only cut it out so Jesper Christensen could make a comeback if he so wished, but if he doesn't, there's no reason why they shouldn't include it. It'll give his story a sense of closure.

[Chief of SIS]

Silly Mr. White. Oh, how I enjoyed your cackle at the beginning of 'Quantum' and your quips about Tosca but do you realize how unimportant you are to the Quantum organization? If they do keep the whole Quantum thing going, it's not that hard to write him out. He did what he meant to do and that was introduce the Quantum in a way. So if he is going to bad mouth bond everywhere I say good riddance.

Edited by Chief of SIS, 22 April 2011 - 07:24 PM.

[David Schofield]

Silly Mr. White. Oh, how I enjoyed your cackle at the beginning of 'Quantum' and your quips about Tosca but do you realize how unimportant you are to the Quantum organization. If they do keep the whole Quantum thing going, it's not that hard to write him out. He did what he meant to do and that was introduce the Quantum in a way. So if he is going to bad mouth bond everywhere I say good riddance.

Quite.

Maybe Q org. had him knocked off after the info the little fellow (played by the French bloke) gave to Bond in the desert about Q org. at the end of QOS.

After all he had become the public face of Q org. MI6 knew where he lived, he answered unfilted phone calls, and then held major SPECTRE-type meetings in public at an Opera.

Yep, he was a total idiot. "This organisation doesn't tolerate failure. I mean, loyality" is the new motto of the Q org.

He's fish food, then.

[MajorB]

Maybe they'll include the alternate ending, where Bond shoots him? I'm pretty sure that they only cut it out so Jesper Christensen could make a comeback if he so wished, but if he doesn't, there's no reason why they shouldn't include it. It'll give his story a sense of closure.

Forster said he cut the ending so as not to force the filmmakers to address that particular story thread in the next film. I really liked Mr. White as a character and would love to see him return, but I agree that it wouldn't damage the continuity (if there is any) if he doesn't. I'd be very disappointed if Quantum doesn't come back, though.

BTW, didn't Christensen subsequently say that his remarks "bashing" Bond were jokes that were mistakenly reported as being serious? I seem to recall he indicated that he'd be happy to come back if asked. Or am I hallucinating again?

[jaguar007]

BTW, didn't Christensen subsequently say that his remarks "bashing" Bond were jokes that were mistakenly reported as being serious? I seem to recall he indicated that he'd be happy to come back if asked. Or am I hallucinating again?

it's called backpeddeling.

[Guy Haines]

"Mr White" never struck me as the character's real name. Rather an alias, a name given to a particular character within the Quantum syndicate, for whatever reason. It just seemed too, well, ordinary for the name of a Bond villain, even a relatively minor one (apologies to any of you out there whose real name is White, by the way!)

Just suppose the current "Mr White" has been "retired" (infer what you like from the word!) and a new man takes over the name.

A couple more points. One, the current Mr White did mess up, as one contributor has mentioned here. Answered that 'phone call, got shot, ended up in the hands of MI6, and was fortunate that Quantum has people everywhere. Plus that Tosca debacle. Secondly, Ralph Fiennes keeps cropping up as a Bond villain possibilty. Supposing he is the new "Mr White", as has also been mentioned here, but in a vastly enlarged role?

I take one other point though. It would be amusing if White never appeared again, being the one villain our hero never brought to book.

P.S. - notice that the main villain in QoS was named "Greene". Was there a plan to have Bond face a succession of colour coded villains, I wonder?

[Royal Dalton]

Not surprised. I think we might have seen the last of the whole Quantum thing, at least for Bond 23.

Hopefully.

[Lionheart]

Jesper shooting "Dom över död man" in Gothenburg, SWEDEN right now...



Anyone thinkin' Blofeld in the YOLT novel?

[Pierce - Daniel]

wow he's aged in the last 3 years
Probs just the dye job. Personally i dont want Mr White to leave the series without a proper ending to his character. to often with SPECTRE did innteresting characters escape under the net. I mean Irma Bunt needed a a great showdown with Bond, regardless if the actress did pass away, there was always the option to recast. One of the greatest sins of the series is tha Blofeld never got a final showdown with Bond. I think its pivotal that White dosen't suffer from the same fate.

[OwenDavian]

They must have aged him up there. No way someone looks 60 in 2008 and then looks 90 3 years later.

Edited by OwenDavian, 23 April 2011 - 03:46 PM.

[dinovelvet]

Not surprised. I think we might have seen the last of the whole Quantum thing, at least for Bond 23.

Hopefully.

They could pull a Goldfinger and drop a standalone, unconnected Bond film in the midst of the Quantum stuff.

[Royal Dalton]

Better that they forget Quantum altogether and start again.

[Fan]

I want them to bring (literary/early films other than YOLT-style) SPECTRE back (McClory's dead anyway) - even if it carries the Quantum name. I want them to be based at the 'Fraternité Internationale de la Résistance Contre l'Oppression' at No. 136, Boulevard Haussman ideally, but even if none of the cosmetics match up, I'd like SPECTRE/Quantum to be put in the films again (story-wise) so we could have, perhaps, a new OHMSS and a real YOLT adaptation.

[DaveBond21]

wow he's aged in the last 3 years
Probs just the dye job. Personally i dont want Mr White to leave the series without a proper ending to his character. to often with SPECTRE did innteresting characters escape under the net. I mean Irma Bunt needed a a great showdown with Bond, regardless if the actress did pass away, there was always the option to recast. One of the greatest sins of the series is tha Blofeld never got a final showdown with Bond. I think its pivotal that White dosen't suffer from the same fate.

I agree with everything you say here, Pierce - Daniel. I always wish that Irma Bunt got her comeuppence, and likewise Blofeld, although I do satisfy myself with the PTS of FYEO.

I would also like to see Bond get Mr White, but unfortunately your post is not new news. Christensen used a certain four-letter word to describe working on CR and QOS and said he'd never do another one.

-

[jamie00007]

I'll be greatly disappointed if they dont return to Quantum in this film. What was the point of introducing a new evil organization and building it up in the first place?

[Jim]

I'll be greatly disappointed if they dont return to Quantum in this film. What was the point of introducing a new evil organization and building it up in the first place?

Not sure it's had that much impact, has it? Seems a bit abstract, still (although I suspect that's deliberate).

[Dustin]

As nebulous and enigmatic as it is up to now - and what isn't nebulous and enigmatic today? ice cream ingredients, ticket machines, Beeb timeslots, to name but a few - that Quantum thingy could really be all and nothing and even disappear for a time wtithout much damage I'd say. It's not as if the members had discussed their final great and definite PLAN OMEEGA (sic!) to start changing the world come next Friday. That said it's perhaps easier for the producers to keep that ball a little longer in the misty airspace of their current Bondverse than it would be to come up with something that looks like a new ball from afar. Quantum could be so many things and persons that the concept is by far the most flexible for a Bond adversary at the moment. Even a film or two neglecting the Q-word entirely would be possible and could still be tacked to them in some way, if needs be.

Edited by Dustin, 27 April 2011 - 12:50 PM.

[Solex Agitator]

Maybe Mr. White's body will be found washed up on a beach somewhere. I could definitely see his corpse playing a role if they go a Jesper-less Quantum route...

[MajorB]

As nebulous and enigmatic as it is up to now - and what isn't nebulous and enigmatic today? ice cream ingredients, ticket machines, Beeb timeslots, to name but a few - that Quantum thingy could really be all and nothing and even disappear for a time wtithout much damage I'd say. It's not as if the members had discussed their final great and definite PLAN OMEEGA (sic!) to start changing the world come next Friday. That said it's perhaps easier for the producers to keep that ball a little longer in the misty airspace of their current Bondverse than it would be to come up with something that looks like a new ball from afar. Quantum could be so many things and persons that the concept is by far the most flexible for a Bond adversary at the moment. Even a film or two neglecting the Q-word entirely would be possible and could still be tacked to them in some way, if needs be.

True. Bond's main assignment could have some tangential relationship with Quantum but not have him directly take on the organization. "Guy Haines still isn't talking, but we've finally decrypted some of his files, and it looks like Quantum was being used as a paymaster to fund an odd operation in New Delhi. That's where you're going, 007." As I said, I'd raher Quantum were the main target, but something like that would keep the organization "alive" in the films without having to be the key player in B23.

[Double-0-Seven]

Not surprised. I think we might have seen the last of the whole Quantum thing, at least for Bond 23.

Hopefully.

They could pull a Goldfinger and drop a standalone, unconnected Bond film in the midst of the Quantum stuff.

Seems appropriate. Goldfinger was Connery's third and this will be Craig's third.

I won't mind if Bond 23 has little to do with Quantum or Mr. White. It was nice having Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace establish some continuity, but I say leave it be now. For the 50th anniversary I say it's time we have a "regular" Bond film - one without a care for the previous movie's continuity. In other words, much like Goldfinger, as was mentioned. I don't want to stray too far from what is being done with the Craig films, but let's have an unrelated story and a gun barrel opening.

I'm totally off topic now. Time to stop the rambles!