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[Quantumofsolace007]

We'll never know obviously as Ea decided to scrap it but their games tend to feature a lot of gadgets and a lot of the run and shoot or drive and shoot kind of atmosphere.

Daniel Craig's bond is a different kind of beast all together.


I mean honestly to do the film Justice you need to be able to Play card as bond you need to be able to have stealth elements that are totally bondian yet rival Splinter Cell for example the ability to create a diversion and then just walk casually into the secruity room. I just don't see how eon could do the game any better then what we got cause Video game designers just blatantly refuse to take risks with the 007 franchise (something we finnaly got with the batman franchise in Arkham Asylum and it proves that you know what taking a risk and doing what makes the character loveable no matter what WORKS) which again i love Quantum of solace the game and for what it was it was fun but to say it did either film justice is gross overstatement But could EA realkly have faired better? Would they have stayed true to the film given us the ability to play texas hold em and sneak in the bahamas etc or would of had Poker chips that are stun gernades and Q bots and other gadgets that really don't mesh with craig.


your thoughts.

[K1Bond007]

We'll never know obviously as Ea decided to scrap it but their games tend to feature a lot of gadgets and a lot of the run and shoot or drive and shoot kind of atmosphere.

Daniel Craig's bond is a different kind of beast all together.

Personally, I've always been a fan of the more realistic films such as Casino Royale, however, in the video game world.. I think it's more exciting to be a little more grandiose so I really wouldn't have an issue if they threw in a gadget here or there. So long for Craig that it's not too crazy.

In 2006 though, I don't think EA could have done a good job. At best it might have been like From Russia with Love (though not as good as Everything or Nothing, despite the similarity), at worst.. well.. they've done really bad in the past and they've never delivered on any movie adaptation (at least those that are released in conjuction with a film).

Today I think EA could do a slightly better job, but they're a different company now. They're more hands off or so it seems and since 2007 they've added a number of respectable developers to their portfolio (BioWare, for instance - though it'd probably be unlikely they'd do a Bond game). For EA and for Activision as well, I think the the key to a successful adaptation to any movie would be to let the developers work at their own pace. I'd totally nix the idea of getting a game out at the same time as the movie. I know that would likely hurt initial sales, but if the developer does a great job with the extra time working outside this constraint then they could pull another GoldenEye or whatever. There's a reason movie games don't do well critically.

[darthbond]

K1Bond007. I totally agree with you. The reasons movie games almost never work is because they are pushed to put the game out right when the movie comes out. However, I have no excuse for FRWL except that I think they wanted to do a Bond Game every year.

As for CR, this is a tough question because we never knew what we would get with EA. It was a guessing game. TND-Horrible, 007R-OK, TWINE-Very Good, AUF-Good, NF-Just as Good, EON-Great, GE:RA-Mediocre, FRWL-OK. My guess is they would have made as good of a game with CR as Activision did with QoS. Good ideas, but on the whole, it's just another game.

darthbond

[Quantumofsolace007]

My main question is why are bond game producers afraid to allow bond to be bond. Perhaps with Batman Arkham asylum allowing the user to do dective work and stealth work and do thing reall like batman. Perhaps NOW FINNALY Activision and others will open their eyes and allow us to Drive shoot and GAMBLE like bond Is it so hard to allow for a level or mini game where u play texas hold em as Daniel Craig's bond

[K1Bond007]

My main question is why are bond game producers afraid to allow bond to be bond. Perhaps with Batman Arkham asylum allowing the user to do dective work and stealth work and do thing reall like batman. Perhaps NOW FINNALY Activision and others will open their eyes and allow us to Drive shoot and GAMBLE like bond Is it so hard to allow for a level or mini game where u play texas hold em as Daniel Craig's bond

If you add gambling to your game you're changing the flow and for a traditional Bond game whether it be like Everything or Nothing or more like Quantum of Solace or GoldenEye, it just doesn't work. You can't make a "shooter" game and then sit down and play a couple rounds of cards. There's no sense to that. You have to attack the game at a different direction. The only games I can think of where gambling has factored and fit well was Mass Effect and the Knights of the Old Republic games but those are big long RPGs. Bond could do that, but that'd be one hell of a switch up.

Speaking of Mass Effect and the KOTOR games, you might be interested in Alpha Protocol. It's in the same vein except you play a "secret agent" of some sort. Comes out next month.

[Tybre]

My main question is why are bond game producers afraid to allow bond to be bond. Perhaps with Batman Arkham asylum allowing the user to do dective work and stealth work and do thing reall like batman. Perhaps NOW FINNALY Activision and others will open their eyes and allow us to Drive shoot and GAMBLE like bond Is it so hard to allow for a level or mini game where u play texas hold em as Daniel Craig's bond

If you add gambling to your game you're changing the flow and for a traditional Bond game whether it be like Everything or Nothing or more like Quantum of Solace or GoldenEye, it just doesn't work. protocol/9237[/url]

You could have gambling on the side, though, and make it less of an out-and-out shooter. Make it a bit more like the MGS games, with the focus primarily on stealth, and in the case of things like CR have the ability to free-roam the hotel and grounds unless otherwise occupied with something like a plot-based mission. Then you could just throw in some playable roulette or baccarat optional mini-games in the casino. Totally up to the player.

[Quantumofsolace007]

My main question is why are bond game producers afraid to allow bond to be bond. Perhaps with Batman Arkham asylum allowing the user to do dective work and stealth work and do thing reall like batman. Perhaps NOW FINNALY Activision and others will open their eyes and allow us to Drive shoot and GAMBLE like bond Is it so hard to allow for a level or mini game where u play texas hold em as Daniel Craig's bond

If you add gambling to your game you're changing the flow and for a traditional Bond game whether it be like Everything or Nothing or more like Quantum of Solace or GoldenEye, it just doesn't work. protocol/9237[/url]

You could have gambling on the side, though, and make it less of an out-and-out shooter. Make it a bit more like the MGS games, with the focus primarily on stealth, and in the case of things like CR have the ability to free-roam the hotel and grounds unless otherwise occupied with something like a plot-based mission. Then you could just throw in some playable roulette or baccarat optional mini-games in the casino. Totally up to the player.

well i was thinking of something similar (though some of this belongs in my "what do you want for the next bond game" thread) it would be interesting to have fewer levels but more ways to get through them.

Lets say in a future bond game one of the levels is a return to Casino Royale and this time the objectives are Make contact with a local agent record a meeting with quantum members and get information about each of them including Guy haines.


Ok well you get to pick how you want to do this as it's 5 levels of free roaming (as well as the streets outside the roof etc) So maybe you want takk the alley way up and just run and shoot in classic 007 fassion. that is fine you can do that or maybe you want to go the sort of film root and order a martini at the bar and meet the contact play poker a bit then use perhaps some of the winning to bribe hotel security to allow u acces to an upper floor. Ok you can do that. lets say you want to do a combo. that is fine too. Lets say you want to try and sneak around the guard though a ventilation shaft etc. That is fine too.


Personnaly i think that would be much more rewarding then 15 levels of run shoot jump and drive. Personnaly i think it would sell better to.

[Tybre]

Yes, I'd thought of fully expanding the free-roaming as well when I'd mentioned the possibility, I just didn't elaborate. Expanding it within reason of course. Like during a CR game, obviously have a segment where you have to head up to Le Chiffre's room and fight Obanno & crew. But I figured they could open it up, so you could go through the inside and have a stairwell fight if you wanted to have it play out like the film, sneak along from outside and break into the room, etc. But if you get the order to go to Le Chiffre's room and spend too much time messing around, you fail. I mean that's just one example, but you get the gist.

[Quantumofsolace007]

My main question is why are bond game producers afraid to allow bond to be bond. Perhaps with Batman Arkham asylum allowing the user to do dective work and stealth work and do thing reall like batman. Perhaps NOW FINNALY Activision and others will open their eyes and allow us to Drive shoot and GAMBLE like bond Is it so hard to allow for a level or mini game where u play texas hold em as Daniel Craig's bond

If you add gambling to your game you're changing the flow and for a traditional Bond game whether it be like Everything or Nothing or more like Quantum of Solace or GoldenEye, it just doesn't work. You can't make a "shooter" game and then sit down and play a couple rounds of cards. There's no sense to that. You have to attack the game at a different direction. The only games I can think of where gambling has factored and fit well was Mass Effect and the Knights of the Old Republic games but those are big long RPGs. Bond could do that, but that'd be one hell of a switch up.

Speaking of Mass Effect and the KOTOR games, you might be interested in Alpha Protocol. It's in the same vein except you play a "secret agent" of some sort. Comes out next month.

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The world is not enough for PS1 was able to play cards and it worked fine