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#1 bondrules

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 04:46 PM

Uncredited Quantum of Solace screenwriter to tackle another famous spy


Producer Frank Marshall revealed today at The Curious Case of Benjamin Button where the next "Bourne" adventure might be headed, citing one of Robert Ludlum's books, "The Parsifal Mosaic" as potential source material.

Q: What's happening with "Bourne" now that you have access to the Robert Ludlum library?

Frank Marshall: Well, that's the good news. We now have access to all the Ludlum story ideas. We're going to make the fourth movie from them.

Q: And Matt's signed on?

Marshall: No, the only people signed on right now is George Nolfi, the writer, and me. We have to get a good script and then, hopefully, Matt will follow.

Q: Would this come at all from the new book, "The Bourne Betrayal"?

Marshall: No, the "Bourne Betrayal" was written by a friend of Ludlum's.... It had nothing to do with us.... We want to stay true to the original character.

Q: Any ideas for a "Bourne" title?

Marshall: Well, there's a lot of jokes. "Bourne Again," "Bourne Yesterday," "Bourne Free," "Bourne on the Fourth." I actually want to do that. Call it that and release the movie on the fourth.

Q: Would you want to do a straight adaptation from one of the novels?

Marshall: Actually, there is. "The Parsifal Mosaic" is one that we like.

"The Parsifal Mosiac," not a "Bourne" adventure as a novel, deals with a U.S. spy who falls in love with another spy who is revealed to be a double agent just before her death. When he retires from the business, though, the spy learns that she may still be alive and sets out to learn the truth.

http://www.comingsoo...ws.php?id=51102

#2 TheREAL008

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 05:06 PM

Read this at comingsoon.net. A few people compared that book to Casino Royale.

Now who's copying whom??? :(

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 05:24 PM

Anyone read the book? If so, how is it?

#4 DamnCoffee

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 05:27 PM

""Bourne on the Fourth." I actually want to do that. Call it that and release the movie on the fourth."


Oh dear god. :(

Ahem, If that is picked I do hope it will get the same amount of flack Quantum of Solace did.

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 06:57 PM

""Bourne on the Fourth." I actually want to do that. Call it that and release the movie on the fourth."


Oh dear god. :)

Ahem, If that is picked I do hope it will get the same amount of flack Quantum of Solace did.


Lol, he's just joking around, Matt, just like when Damon said the next would could be called "The Bourne Redundancy". :(

That's interesting news, so they are going to use the plots from other Ludlum novels for future installments? Interesting.

Here's the story over at IGN, which includes a brief synopsis of The Parsifal Mosaic: http://movies.ign.co...6/936395p1.html

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 09:31 PM

We want to stay true to the original character.

Really? Whose original character?

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 10:04 PM

"The Parsifal Mosiac," not a "Bourne" adventure as a novel, deals with a U.S. spy who falls in love with another spy who is revealed to be a double agent just before her death.


Wow, that's a great idea. EON should definitely do something like that in a Bond film. Er...oh.

#8 marktmurphy

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 10:43 PM

I had a read of the synopsis on Wikipedia... I'm sure it reads better as a book. It's not a particularly inventive spy story and the Secretary of State thing sounds a little OTT.

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 10:48 PM

"The Parsifal Mosiac," not a "Bourne" adventure as a novel, deals with a U.S. spy who falls in love with another spy who is revealed to be a double agent just before her death.


Wow, that's a great idea. EON should definitely do something like that in a Bond film. Er...oh.


OMFG! BORN 4 IS COMPppLETE RIP OSDFF OF CASINO ROYALLL!!!!!1111

:)

I'll take great pleasure in hearing that upon release. :(

#10 Matt_13

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 11:04 PM

If this is the route they decide to take, it's safe to assume that
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#11 marktmurphy

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 11:45 PM

Right- Nikki as Jenna; yeah that makes sense.

#12 Matt_13

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 11:48 PM

Right- Nikki as Jenna; yeah that makes sense.


Who's Jenna?

#13 Eurospy

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 07:29 PM

Just like Bond is not ripping-off Bourne, The Parsifal Mosaic is not ripping-off Casino Royale.

Hmm, wonder what happened to Bourne's producers intent on having Bourne 4 set in South America. Why did they drop that one? - Well played by Eon.

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 07:59 PM

BOURNE 4 will rock so hard it isn't even funny.

Damon and Greengrass - one of the all-time great partnerships, up there with Lennon and McCartney and Reeves and Mortimer.

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 09:12 PM

I find myself entirely uninterested in BOURNE IV, and most people I mention it too don't seem too enthusiastic, either. Greengrass will really have to come up with something good to make it worth my while.

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 09:25 PM

BOURNE 4 will rock so hard it isn't even funny.

Damon and Greengrass - one of the all-time great partnerships, up there with Lennon and McCartney and Reeves and Mortimer.

Craig and Campbell? Bale and Nolan?

#17 Loomis

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 09:57 PM

I find myself entirely uninterested in BOURNE IV, and most people I mention it too don't seem too enthusiastic, either. Greengrass will really have to come up with something good to make it worth my while.


I'm sure that BOURNE 4 will very much ring the changes in terms of both style and content. This is really the make-or-break film in deciding whether it can be a long-running series, and it's highly likely that Damon and Greengrass (regardless of whether either or both will return for BOURNE 5) will be required to show that the franchise is adaptable and can absorb new influences.

That said, though, I personally would be completely satisfied with just more of the same. Open midway through some kind of action scene, get busy with that Shakycam, get a couple of cryptic moments with Julia Stiles, have Bourne constantly making bad guy :( be grass and being the lawnmower man, bring on Pamela Landy shouting lines like "You people want to go home tonight, you better find Jason Bourne - that means now, people!", end with a car chase or something and then "Extreme Ways". Lovely.

But then this is coming from someone who thinks THE BOURNE ULTIMATUM is superior to QUANTUM OF SOLACE, so feel free to ignore.

BOURNE 4 will rock so hard it isn't even funny.

Damon and Greengrass - one of the all-time great partnerships, up there with Lennon and McCartney and Reeves and Mortimer.

Craig and Campbell? Bale and Nolan?


Nah. Those guys ain't even in the same league.

#18 Eurospy

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 10:48 PM

[quote name='Loomis' date='12 December 2008 - 21:57' post='972037']
That said, though, I personally would be completely satisfied with just more of the same. Open midway through some kind of action scene, get busy with that Shakycam, get a couple of cryptic moments with Julia Stiles, have Bourne constantly making bad guy :( be grass and being the lawnmower man, bring on Pamela Landy shouting lines like "You people want to go home tonight, you better find Jason Bourne - that means now, people!", end with a car chase or something and then "Extreme Ways". Lovely.

But then this is coming from someone who thinks THE BOURNE ULTIMATUM is superior to QUANTUM OF SOLACE, so feel free to ignore.
[quote name='Loomis' post='971992' date='12 December 2008 - 12:59']

I liked QOS but I completely respect your opinion (although I think of Nolan & Bale as far superior to Greengrass & Damon, considering that these latter two are somewhat hippocrites).

But you want for Bourne 4 to be exactly the same (plot included) to the previous entires? Why not watch the trilogy allover again for that?

I find it a bit odd that's all, no insult intended.

#19 Loomis

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 11:10 PM

But you want for Bourne 4 to be exactly the same (plot included) to the previous entires?


Well, I'd certainly settle for that.

Ideally, I'd like Damon and Greengrass (although I do gather that neither has actually signed up for BOURNE 4 yet) to really shake things up and ring the changes. I'd like them to surprise us and maybe take the franchise in unexpected directions. For instance, no Shakycam, no CIA bad guys, less constant globetrotting, a surprising new ally for Bourne, disturbing revelations about Bourne, more character-and-dialogue-driven stuff (a la the second half of CASINO ROYALE). Y'know, a fairly bold and new approach.

Failing that, though, yes, I'd accept Standard Bourne™. Because I do find it very entertaining.

Why not watch the trilogy allover again for that?


Because the three Bourne films, while very similar, are still different, and a fourth flick cut from the same cloth could still be good entertainment. Most of the Bond and Rocky movies are pretty darn samey, but I still enjoy most of them on the level of undemanding but fairly well-made fun.

Ultimately, as a fan of the series, I'll accept anything as long as the execution is above-par. Originality, while welcome, isn't really required, all other things being equal.

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 11:18 PM

Bale and Nolan have done Batman and a different type of film together. Damon and Greengrass have just Bourne between them, so I'll wait until The Green Zone comes out to decide how great the duo are.

I do agree with Eurospy that Greengrass can get under the skin when he's on his soapbox, but he can direct. Personally, I'd love to see him do a Bond, which I'm sure if the deal is right, he would do. Based on nothing, other than a sense that he would rise to the challenge of showing everyone else how it could be done.

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Posted 13 December 2008 - 12:55 AM

I'll puke in the theater if they show a shot of Bourne's passport and it's one of the same pictures again (esp. the one with the longer hair where Matt looks 30 years old)...oh, and ditch the Moby song at the end please.

Damon will sign on if Greengrass or Liman sign on. I heard him say that about 2-3 months ago on a radio show.

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Posted 13 December 2008 - 02:18 AM

Of course that neither Damon nor Grengrass won't do it again. Just like Mel Gibson wouldn't do a Lethal Weapon 4, nor would Harrison Ford & Co. do another Indy 4.

It's all just Hollywood games. The more they refuse a successful franchise that they helped building, the fatter the checks will grow. And when they grow fat enough, then they'll do it. It certainly won't take much longer.

And mind you, I also find the Bourne films highly entertaining. I enjoyed Supremacy most (that epilogue is simply outstanding to say the least), but it just reall p***** me off that Greengrass shook the camera so hard that I couldn't enjoy the choreogarphy of the sequences. The exaggerated shaky cam is many times a cheap trick to disguise poor action performance, and that is NOT the case in the Bourne films. In the few glimpses I could get I could notice a great deal of work had been put in the choreography, so why not let us enjoy it.

And all that Bond bashing was just because Bond was/is their direct rival (and I hear the birthcries of other spy franshices coming). Marketing ploys, no matter what they say. It's just how the game is played.

Regarding Rocky, I think the first one was an excellent drama, the second followed well, but then it seemed the quality kept decreasing.

One thing, I respect Stallone's determination in life (the man battled his speech impedement by himself, mainly using Poe poetry). I hope that one day he'll finally pick up his Edgar Allan Poe project and brings it to the screen as a director. He is the right person to do so. And yes, my precognition abilities already have detected the following reactions - :) :(

Sorry for such long post.

Edited by Eurospy, 13 December 2008 - 02:29 AM.


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Posted 13 December 2008 - 02:29 AM

BOURNE 4 will rock so hard it isn't even funny.

Damon and Greengrass - one of the all-time great partnerships, up there with Lennon and McCartney and Reeves and Mortimer.

Indeed. I’m sure if they work out a decent, necessary plot for Bourne 4, they will knock it out of the park. The plot part is what concerns me; I’m not entirely sure where they can go from here. They tied up the plot cleanly with Ultimatum. The series has its pride intact, doing another is rolling the dice.

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Posted 13 December 2008 - 02:50 AM

I love Bourne as well as Bond, the problem with Bourne is that the whole premise about him is that he lost his memory.
He found everything back by the end of The Bourne Ultimatum, so there is no obvious reason for him to go on.
The danger with continuing the Bourne franchise is that it loses the magic of its original premise and turns into just another action series.

#25 marktmurphy

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Posted 13 December 2008 - 09:34 AM

Right- Nikki as Jenna; yeah that makes sense.


Who's Jenna?


She's the female lead in the Parsifal Mosaic.

Bale and Nolan have done Batman and a different type of film together.


Just my opinion of course, but I happen to think that none of the films they've made was all that great, and The Prestige actually annoyed me for thinking that I'm stupid.

For me the Greengrass Bourne films are practically perfect- Ultimatum is very low on plot but is practically an exercise in making superior tension set pieces and is utterly satisfying as a result.
The plot reason does make me a little nervous about a fourth, but there may well be something to pull out of Parsifal (as long as it's not the insane Senator plot- that just sounds bizarre) and I'd certainly go and see it if he can bring more scenes like Waterloo or the Moscow car chase to the table.

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Posted 13 December 2008 - 09:43 AM

"I am no longer Jason Bourne" - as spoken by the protagonist of The Bourne Ultimatum.

Painted themselves into a bit of a corner there, didn't they? How are they going to explain this in QUANTUM OF PARSIFAL or MOSAIC OF SOLACE or whatever its called?

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Posted 13 December 2008 - 12:57 PM

Regarding Rocky, I think the first one was an excellent drama, the second followed well, but then it seemed the quality kept decreasing.


You're not wrong - even I find ROCKY V a truly painful experience.

However, I'd recommend ROCKY BALBOA, if you haven't checked it out already. It's up there with the first two.

It's better than ROCKY II (which I agree is good), and almost as good as the original. Now, ROCKY is a solid gold classic, so it's no surprise that the sixth (!) film doesn't quite take it down. But that it's certainly in the same quality ballpark is an astonishing achievement, especially given Stallone's age and the 30-year gap between the first flick and the last. And the old boy surely deserves some kind of cojones award for lacing up those boxing gloves when he was older than Moore when he did A VIEW TO A KILL!

So give ROCKY BALBOA a viewing. It may surprise you. :(

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Posted 13 December 2008 - 02:16 PM

So give ROCKY BALBOA a viewing. It may surprise you. :)


Certainly will :(

And btw, I was serious when I mentioned his Poe project. He's the right person to not only direct the movie, but write it as well. I think he'd surprise a great deal of people by doing so.

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Posted 13 December 2008 - 02:41 PM

Well, he's talked about doing a Poe biopic for decades. No sign of one yet, but it may be that he's going to keep really planning a Poe film in his head for a few more years, Kubrick-like, while doing a couple more action outings while he still can (and using said action outings to sharpen his skills as a director in preparation for the eventual Poe flick).

His next film is reportedly an action thriller called THE EXPENDABLES, which he'll be writing and directing as well as starring in, with a supporting cast including Jet Li, Dolph Lundgren and Jason Statham.

It's a long road
On the way to Poe
And it hurts when
The critics tear your films apart
And every meeting in Tinseltown
Just seems to bring you down
Trying to find peace of mind
Can break your heart
It's a real war
Trying to get into a studio exec's
Front door I tell ya
Out where they'll kill ya
You could use a friend
Where the Poe project ends
That's the place for me
Where I'm me in my own space
Where I'm free that's the place
I wanna be
'Cause the road is long yeah
Each action deal is only the beginning
No breaks just heartaches
Oh man is anybody winning
It's a long road
And it's hard as hell
Tell me what do you do
To keep your career alive?
When you made FIRST BLOOD
That's just the start of it
Day and night you gotta fight
To keep the Poe project alive
It's a long road ...


:(

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Posted 13 December 2008 - 03:05 PM

:) :(




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