Bring back Marc Forster! Whatever it takes!
#1
Posted 17 November 2008 - 06:33 AM
thoughts?
#2
Posted 17 November 2008 - 06:36 AM
#3
Posted 17 November 2008 - 06:38 AM
#4
Posted 17 November 2008 - 06:39 AM
He didn't write QOS so he doesn't have total control and yet he still made a great movie.He's proven himself to me. Another pint of Forster lager please.
That's case for any Bond film director. I am just saying he didn't deliver the goods as well as he should have. He should made the film far less frantic.
#5
Posted 17 November 2008 - 06:41 AM
I still like Campbell a lot, though.
#6
Posted 17 November 2008 - 06:44 AM
#7
Posted 17 November 2008 - 06:48 AM
frantic? Hmmm....maybe that's why I loved it so much. The Bourne's suffer from this condtition too.Maybe these art directors know it's not a normal thing to have people trying to kill you all the time...so, they try to convey a frantic action asthetic.
You don't do that by constantly grabbing and letting go the viewer in the haste of the action. Films slow down reality because it's so fast. You have to present this to people and expect them to keep up with what is going on.
#8
Posted 17 November 2008 - 06:52 AM
#9
Posted 17 November 2008 - 07:05 AM
#10
Posted 17 November 2008 - 07:12 AM
I'd be fine with Forster coming back, but I don't really think he's the "Greengrass" of Bond. I'd actually prefer yet another director with yet another vision. Joe Wright or Alfonso Cuaron, please.
Well, he's intelectual and not a popcorn guy who made a damn good action film so that's why I draw the comparison.I just like Forster's work and it makes me think of the Bourne U and how they actually got better at the action stuff.So, I wanna see Forster come back and complete the trilogy...
#11
Posted 17 November 2008 - 07:13 AM
(Hope that made sense...)
#12
Posted 17 November 2008 - 07:13 AM
#13
Posted 17 November 2008 - 07:15 AM
#14
Posted 17 November 2008 - 07:15 AM
Sure, but there are other guys who are just as suited to the job, if not more so. That's why I suggest the excellent filmmakers Cuaron and Wright. They're very much in the Forster mold, but with their own edge - Cuaron, in particular, seems perfectly suited to a Bond film.Well, he's intelectual and not a popcorn guy who made a damn good action film so that's why I draw the comparison.
I'd prefer it if each film in this Craig "trilogy" felt really different, with a distinctive vision and style for each. As much as I liked it, I don't want part three to feel like an extension of QUANTUM OF SOLACE, certainly not in the same way that BOURNE ULTIMATUM was an extension of BOURNE SUPREMACY.I just like Forster's work and it makes me think of the Bourne U and how they actually got better at the action stuff.So, I wanna see Forster come back and complete the trilogy...
#15
Posted 17 November 2008 - 07:16 AM
I'd be fine with Forster coming back, but I don't really think he's the "Greengrass" of Bond. I'd actually prefer yet another director with yet another vision. Joe Wright or Alfonso Cuaron, please.
I´d love BOND 23 go in yet another direction. After the frantic QOS Wright or Cuaron could do action sequences in totally exciting long, continuous takes ("Children of Men"-style).
#16
Posted 17 November 2008 - 07:22 AM
Sure, but there are other guys who are just as suited to the job, if not more so. That's why I suggest the excellent filmmakers Cuaron and Wright. They're very much in the Forster mold, but with their own edge - Cuaron, in particular, seems perfectly suited to a Bond film.Well, he's intelectual and not a popcorn guy who made a damn good action film so that's why I draw the comparison.
I'd prefer it if each film in this Craig "trilogy" felt really different, with a distinctive vision and style for each. As much as I liked it, I don't want part three to feel like an extension of QUANTUM OF SOLACE, certainly not in the same way that BOURNE ULTIMATUM was an extension of BOURNE SUPREMACY.I just like Forster's work and it makes me think of the Bourne U and how they actually got better at the action stuff.So, I wanna see Forster come back and complete the trilogy...
Yeah but how much more awesome was The Dark Knight compared to Batman Begins? Same director.
#17
Posted 17 November 2008 - 07:33 AM
Campbell's thing is that he's very good at making a solid film when the franchise needs it the most. Hell, as disappointing as THE LEGEND OF ZORRO was, it was still very well-directed.Honestly he brought something extra to QOS that Campbell didn't but he didn't deliver as well as he should have.
#18
Posted 17 November 2008 - 08:02 AM
I agree. The tight framing, shaky camera, and excessively quick cuts was too much--particularly in the opening car chase. He may be a great director outside of Bond, but I wasn't sold with him on this effort. Give me Martin Campbell every time.He didn't write QOS so he doesn't have total control and yet he still made a great movie.He's proven himself to me. Another pint of Forster lager please.
That's case for any Bond film director. I am just saying he didn't deliver the goods as well as he should have. He should made the film far less frantic.
#19
Posted 17 November 2008 - 08:44 AM
I think he should be brought back and writers to be changed to keep the flow a bit fresh. Loved this movie . The best casting of a villain and even though I really did hate the way Arnold used score at first now am really loving it.
#20
Posted 17 November 2008 - 08:56 AM
Also I think they have to push back the budget to about 200m$ or even less. 230m$ is too much I think.
#21
Posted 17 November 2008 - 09:34 AM
#22
Posted 17 November 2008 - 09:40 AM
#23
Posted 17 November 2008 - 10:02 AM
Wow!
We probably also know which directors will be hired for Bond 23-50?
#24
Posted 17 November 2008 - 12:07 PM
Cuaron would also be an interesting choice, maybe they could alternate films for a while..
#25
Posted 17 November 2008 - 04:20 PM
Sure. The issue isn't whether Forster would improve the next time out (maybe he would, maybe he wouldn't), but rather that I don't want Forster's style to dominate over the Craig era. I want a new, exciting vision for Bond from a new, exciting director.Yeah but how much more awesome was The Dark Knight compared to Batman Begins? Same director.
#26
Posted 17 November 2008 - 04:43 PM
I agree. The tight framing, shaky camera, and excessively quick cuts was too much--particularly in the opening car chase. He may be a great director outside of Bond, but I wasn't sold with him on this effort. Give me Martin Campbell every time.
I think the camera was not very shaky but yes, tight framing and quick cuts really irked me. This hurt the film so much. We basically need a director who can deliver and will not rush things. Maybe Brian De Palma could take a shot.
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Campbell's thing is that he's very good at making a solid film when the franchise needs it the most. Hell, as disappointing as THE LEGEND OF ZORRO was, it was still very well-directed.
Agreed. MOZ was very well directed but it was the awful script that couldn't be saved.
#27
Posted 17 November 2008 - 04:49 PM
#28
Posted 17 November 2008 - 04:52 PM
As for who i can only think of obvious choices like Chris Nolan ior Matthew Vaughn so I'll leave the directors choice in much more capable hands.
#29
Posted 17 November 2008 - 05:05 PM
#30
Posted 17 November 2008 - 05:30 PM
So, I'll say this to EON:
"Bring back whatever it was that prompted you to hire Campbell for CR and then Forster for QOS!!!"