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Bring back Marc Forster! Whatever it takes!


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#1 Tarl_Cabot

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 06:33 AM

Well, I think he's now officially the Paul Greengrass of the Bond series; why is it that action directors are making all the crappy action films these days and independent types like Greengrass,Chris Nolan and now Marc Forster are ruling the action world?. I want him back. Pronto.Pay the man.$70M opening weekend is a good start.The man just gets Bond.

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#2 Mister E

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 06:36 AM

Honestly he brought something extra to QOS that Campbell didn't but he didn't deliver as well as he should have.

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 06:38 AM

He didn't write QOS so he doesn't have total control and yet he still made a great movie.He's proven himself to me. Another pint of Forster lager please.

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 06:39 AM

He didn't write QOS so he doesn't have total control and yet he still made a great movie.He's proven himself to me. Another pint of Forster lager please.


That's case for any Bond film director. I am just saying he didn't deliver the goods as well as he should have. He should made the film far less frantic.

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 06:41 AM

If he promises to pull the camera back just a little bit the next time around then I wouldn't mind seeing him back. :(

I still like Campbell a lot, though.

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 06:44 AM

frantic? Hmmm....maybe that's why I loved it so much. The Bourne's suffer from this condtition too.Maybe these art directors know it's not a normal thing to have people trying to kill you all the time...so, they try to convey a frantic action asthetic.

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 06:48 AM

frantic? Hmmm....maybe that's why I loved it so much. The Bourne's suffer from this condtition too.Maybe these art directors know it's not a normal thing to have people trying to kill you all the time...so, they try to convey a frantic action asthetic.


You don't do that by constantly grabbing and letting go the viewer in the haste of the action. Films slow down reality because it's so fast. You have to present this to people and expect them to keep up with what is going on.

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 06:52 AM

He got Halle Berry an Oscar...might as well part the red sea next! :(

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 07:05 AM

I'd be fine with Forster coming back, but I don't really think he's the "Greengrass" of Bond. I'd actually prefer yet another director with yet another vision. Joe Wright or Alfonso Cuaron, please.

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 07:12 AM

I'd be fine with Forster coming back, but I don't really think he's the "Greengrass" of Bond. I'd actually prefer yet another director with yet another vision. Joe Wright or Alfonso Cuaron, please.


Well, he's intelectual and not a popcorn guy who made a damn good action film so that's why I draw the comparison.I just like Forster's work and it makes me think of the Bourne U and how they actually got better at the action stuff.So, I wanna see Forster come back and complete the trilogy...

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 07:13 AM

I could certainly do with Forster coming back, but I'd be interested to see another fine director of the calibre Harms is suggesting above to interpret the next story. I'm intrigued at the thought of each of the films being as individual in aesthetic as the stories are in tone.

(Hope that made sense...)

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 07:13 AM

Yep. I want another Bond film from Forster. Doesn't necessarily need to be Bond 23 or 24, but I want another one eventually.

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 07:15 AM

It does.Unfortunately, Forster has no interest in returning it seems. :(

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 07:15 AM

Well, he's intelectual and not a popcorn guy who made a damn good action film so that's why I draw the comparison.

Sure, but there are other guys who are just as suited to the job, if not more so. That's why I suggest the excellent filmmakers Cuaron and Wright. They're very much in the Forster mold, but with their own edge - Cuaron, in particular, seems perfectly suited to a Bond film.

I just like Forster's work and it makes me think of the Bourne U and how they actually got better at the action stuff.So, I wanna see Forster come back and complete the trilogy...

I'd prefer it if each film in this Craig "trilogy" felt really different, with a distinctive vision and style for each. As much as I liked it, I don't want part three to feel like an extension of QUANTUM OF SOLACE, certainly not in the same way that BOURNE ULTIMATUM was an extension of BOURNE SUPREMACY.

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 07:16 AM

I'd be fine with Forster coming back, but I don't really think he's the "Greengrass" of Bond. I'd actually prefer yet another director with yet another vision. Joe Wright or Alfonso Cuaron, please.


:(

I´d love BOND 23 go in yet another direction. After the frantic QOS Wright or Cuaron could do action sequences in totally exciting long, continuous takes ("Children of Men"-style).

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 07:22 AM

Well, he's intelectual and not a popcorn guy who made a damn good action film so that's why I draw the comparison.

Sure, but there are other guys who are just as suited to the job, if not more so. That's why I suggest the excellent filmmakers Cuaron and Wright. They're very much in the Forster mold, but with their own edge - Cuaron, in particular, seems perfectly suited to a Bond film.

I just like Forster's work and it makes me think of the Bourne U and how they actually got better at the action stuff.So, I wanna see Forster come back and complete the trilogy...

I'd prefer it if each film in this Craig "trilogy" felt really different, with a distinctive vision and style for each. As much as I liked it, I don't want part three to feel like an extension of QUANTUM OF SOLACE, certainly not in the same way that BOURNE ULTIMATUM was an extension of BOURNE SUPREMACY.


Yeah but how much more awesome was The Dark Knight compared to Batman Begins? Same director. :(

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 07:33 AM

Honestly he brought something extra to QOS that Campbell didn't but he didn't deliver as well as he should have.

Campbell's thing is that he's very good at making a solid film when the franchise needs it the most. Hell, as disappointing as THE LEGEND OF ZORRO was, it was still very well-directed.

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 08:02 AM

He didn't write QOS so he doesn't have total control and yet he still made a great movie.He's proven himself to me. Another pint of Forster lager please.


That's case for any Bond film director. I am just saying he didn't deliver the goods as well as he should have. He should made the film far less frantic.

I agree. The tight framing, shaky camera, and excessively quick cuts was too much--particularly in the opening car chase. He may be a great director outside of Bond, but I wasn't sold with him on this effort. Give me Martin Campbell every time.

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 08:44 AM

Foster had me from the moment cars were being rammed against each other without mercy. There is something very different about this Bond film. Even the Bond girls are far more enjoyable than before. The film looked very crisp and more of a Euro thriller than a typical action film.

I think he should be brought back and writers to be changed to keep the flow a bit fresh. Loved this movie . The best casting of a villain and even though I really did hate the way Arnold used score at first now am really loving it.

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 08:56 AM

If he will return with wider shots than I am ok with it. The non-action scenes were really teriffic. I felt the style in these moments.

Also I think they have to push back the budget to about 200m$ or even less. 230m$ is too much I think.

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 09:34 AM

I'd LOVE to see Forster return for Bond 23....failing that, Cuaron would get my vote.

#22 Mr_Wint

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 09:40 AM

We know it will never happen. Thank God for that.

#23 SecretAgentFan

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 10:02 AM

We know that?

Wow!

We probably also know which directors will be hired for Bond 23-50?

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 12:07 PM

Saw it again this weekend, and it only reaffirmed my belief that this is an exceptional Bond film...I'd have Forster back in a heartbeat, he truly gets Bond, understands the need for style, while still pushing forwards, not wallowing in nostalgia.

Cuaron would also be an interesting choice, maybe they could alternate films for a while.. :(

#25 Harmsway

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 04:20 PM

Yeah but how much more awesome was The Dark Knight compared to Batman Begins? Same director. :(

Sure. The issue isn't whether Forster would improve the next time out (maybe he would, maybe he wouldn't), but rather that I don't want Forster's style to dominate over the Craig era. I want a new, exciting vision for Bond from a new, exciting director.

#26 Mister E

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 04:43 PM

I agree. The tight framing, shaky camera, and excessively quick cuts was too much--particularly in the opening car chase. He may be a great director outside of Bond, but I wasn't sold with him on this effort. Give me Martin Campbell every time.


I think the camera was not very shaky but yes, tight framing and quick cuts really irked me. This hurt the film so much. We basically need a director who can deliver and will not rush things. Maybe Brian De Palma could take a shot.

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Campbell's thing is that he's very good at making a solid film when the franchise needs it the most. Hell, as disappointing as THE LEGEND OF ZORRO was, it was still very well-directed.


Agreed. MOZ was very well directed but it was the awful script that couldn't be saved.

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 04:49 PM

Marc Forster is too art-housey for Bond, IMO.

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 04:52 PM

as much as I loved Quantum of solace and Mark Forester i would prefer a new director and a new style for bond 23.


As for who i can only think of obvious choices like Chris Nolan ior Matthew Vaughn so I'll leave the directors choice in much more capable hands.

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 05:05 PM

cuaron directing the next bond movie would be a dream come true. i cannot imagine a more perfect situation.

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 05:30 PM

I'd say 'yes', but then I said 'bring back Campbell' after Casino Royale, and I'm darn glad nobody listened to me.

So, I'll say this to EON:

"Bring back whatever it was that prompted you to hire Campbell for CR and then Forster for QOS!!!"