Homages to previous Bond movies. (SPOILERS)
#1
Posted 02 November 2008 - 12:24 PM
Goldfinger:
Fields covered in Oil is the most obvious.
The Spy Who Loved Me:
Now THIS was brilliant, during the opera scene Bond and the guard are fighting on the roof, the guard grabs onto Bonds jacket as he is about to fall off the roof. Of course, you know what Bond did.... totally the same thing that Bond did in The Spy Who Loved Me. It's was totally amazing.
Octopussy:
I certainly got an Octopussy vibe whilst watching this, after M revokes Bonds licence to kill he is lead away by three agents. He takes care of them in the elevator and walks off casually, Bonds movements is intercut with M's and they evantually meet on the stairs. M tells Bond that he's on the capture of kill list, she allows him to escape. Here is where I got the Octopussy vibe, Bond climbed over the balcony and walked along the wall, avoiding the guards. It reminded me of what Bond did at the Monsoon Palace.
Any more?
#2
Posted 02 November 2008 - 12:27 PM
#3
Posted 02 November 2008 - 12:27 PM
#4
Posted 02 November 2008 - 12:31 PM
Very interesting indeed.Whilst not direct homages, the film does tips a hat to THE SPY WHO LOVED ME. Who would have thought that eh? But a rooftop push, a dressed up couple stranded in the desert, enough hotel receptionists to give Valerie Leon a run for her money, a nod to Moore's pseudonymn "Robert Sterling" and a gunbarrel that is very Roger Moore echoes 1977 just as much as it does GOLDFINGER 1964.
#5
Posted 02 November 2008 - 12:37 PM
In the eco hotel, Camille is reminded of the house fire of when she was a child, and she is sitting weeping in the corner, surrounded by fire. Bond hugs her and Bond starts to eye up the gas cannister - he would blow a hole in the wall and that would be their way out.
Bond is unsure, and a terrified Camille manages to say... "Take a deep breath, you only have one shot... make it count!". It really reminded me of a violent take on the shower scene.
#6
Posted 02 November 2008 - 12:45 PM
I honestly felt BOND was going to shoot CAMILLE in the head in that scene - to put her out of her misery. Yes, I'm a sick puppy...Casino Royale:
In the eco hotel, Camille is reminded of the house fire of when she was a child, and she is sitting weeping in the corner, surrounded by fire. Bond hugs her and Bond starts to eye up the gas cannister - he would blow a hole in the wall and that would be their way out.
Bond is unsure, and a terrified Camille manages to say... "Take a deep breath, you only have one shot... make it count!". It really reminded me of a violent take on the shower scene.
#7
Posted 02 November 2008 - 12:46 PM
That's pretty cool you thought that. The Craig Bond is very un-predictable. Anything can happen.I honestly felt BOND was going to shoot CAMILLE in the head in that scene - to put her out of her misery. Yes, I'm a sick puppy...
#8
Posted 02 November 2008 - 12:48 PM
I honestly felt BOND was going to shoot CAMILLE in the head in that scene - to put her out of her misery. Yes, I'm a sick puppy...Casino Royale:
In the eco hotel, Camille is reminded of the house fire of when she was a child, and she is sitting weeping in the corner, surrounded by fire. Bond hugs her and Bond starts to eye up the gas cannister - he would blow a hole in the wall and that would be their way out.
Bond is unsure, and a terrified Camille manages to say... "Take a deep breath, you only have one shot... make it count!". It really reminded me of a violent take on the shower scene.
Me too.
#9
Posted 02 November 2008 - 12:49 PM
#10
Posted 02 November 2008 - 12:50 PM
I honestly felt BOND was going to shoot CAMILLE in the head in that scene - to put her out of her misery. Yes, I'm a sick puppy...Casino Royale:
In the eco hotel, Camille is reminded of the house fire of when she was a child, and she is sitting weeping in the corner, surrounded by fire. Bond hugs her and Bond starts to eye up the gas cannister - he would blow a hole in the wall and that would be their way out.
Bond is unsure, and a terrified Camille manages to say... "Take a deep breath, you only have one shot... make it count!". It really reminded me of a violent take on the shower scene.
Me too.
I also thought we may have had Dench and Craig involved in a "Bitty?" moment at least once, but it wasn't to be.
That is one for the Brits.
#11
Posted 02 November 2008 - 12:52 PM
I believe Bond fully intended to kill them both, right up until he saw that gas canister.My friend thought that too, so did I... untill I saw him eyeing up the gas cannister.
#12
Posted 02 November 2008 - 03:06 PM
I believe Bond fully intended to kill them both, right up until he saw that gas canister.My friend thought that too, so did I... untill I saw him eyeing up the gas cannister.
I need a second viewing to be sure, but I think the gas canister was not visible in the beginning of the scene; isn't there something expoding first, because of the fire, and unveiling the gas canister? Then Bond in a split second decides to take a last chance and shoot the canister.
Option 2 is that Bond knew from the beginning the gas canister was there, and the film maker just wanted us to think for some seconds that Bond was contemplating double suicide.
#13
Posted 02 November 2008 - 03:13 PM
I honestly felt BOND was going to shoot CAMILLE in the head in that scene - to put her out of her misery. Yes, I'm a sick puppy...Casino Royale:
In the eco hotel, Camille is reminded of the house fire of when she was a child, and she is sitting weeping in the corner, surrounded by fire. Bond hugs her and Bond starts to eye up the gas cannister - he would blow a hole in the wall and that would be their way out.
Bond is unsure, and a terrified Camille manages to say... "Take a deep breath, you only have one shot... make it count!". It really reminded me of a violent take on the shower scene.
Me too.
Also me; which is a shame really as it's just like the last scene at the end of the last series of Spooks.
#14
Posted 02 November 2008 - 03:15 PM
My friend thought that too, so did I... untill I saw him eyeing up the gas cannister.
He was going to shoot her - the cannister was only revealed when a section of the wall fell away.
#15
Posted 02 November 2008 - 04:42 PM
Seeing no way out, Bond saw the pistol, told her to close her eyes and shoot her. After all, she said to him to take a deep breath, and make it count.
It was lucky he was looking towards to wall when the section fell away..!
Great moment.
#16
Posted 02 November 2008 - 05:31 PM
My friend thought that too, so did I... untill I saw him eyeing up the gas cannister.
He was going to shoot her - the cannister was only revealed when a section of the wall fell away.
Exactly.
I think this kind of thing may explain peoples wildly divergent reactions to QoS - all the questions are answered in the film, but you have to be quick, and paying close attention.
#17
Posted 02 November 2008 - 05:37 PM
Camille picking up Bond in a beetle. QoS
(Melina picking up Bond in a yellow beetle. FYEO)
I saw that scene being filmed
Edited by bondrules, 02 November 2008 - 05:38 PM.
#18
Posted 02 November 2008 - 05:40 PM
Melina drove a Citroen in "FYEO," not a Beetle.Camille picking up Bond in a beetle. QoS
(Melina picking up Bond in a yellow beetle. FYEO)
Why do people say that the gunbarrel is reminiscent of TSWLM gunbarrel? (I haven't seen "QoS" yet.)
Edited by coco1997, 02 November 2008 - 05:41 PM.
#19
Posted 02 November 2008 - 05:43 PM
FYEO
Camille picking up Bond in a beetle. QoS
(Melina picking up Bond in a yellow beetle. FYEO)
Sorry- it's a Citroen 2CV in FYEO, not a Beetle.
#20
Posted 02 November 2008 - 05:48 PM
FYEO
Camille picking up Bond in a beetle. QoS
(Melina picking up Bond in a yellow beetle. FYEO)
I saw that scene being filmed
Ok, it's not a beetle, but is it still not an homage since they are very similar? The female lead, a warrior-woman, helps Bond escape in a tiny car, which is very similar in structure...that sounds like an homage to me
Then how come the Fields scene is an homage...they use oil not gold
Edited by bondrules, 02 November 2008 - 05:52 PM.
#21
Posted 02 November 2008 - 05:52 PM
Because the final shot of the scene is intentionally done from the exact same camera angle as GOLDFINGER leaving us in little doubt. Other things such as the Beetle are probably mere coincidence.Then how come the Fields scene is an homage...they use oil not gold
#22
Posted 02 November 2008 - 07:50 PM
#23
Posted 02 November 2008 - 08:29 PM
obviously the Oil covered Fields - Goldfinger
The Guy who Bond pushes off a roof - spy who loved me(wheres peckish?Pyramids:P LOL)
The Boat Chase was like the one from from russia with love
I thought when Bond was telling Cammille how to kill someone it was like in Goldeneye when Bond passes Natalia the gun and says You know how to use one of these? Not excactly a homage though
And I also thought Greene's Lecture on Greene Planet was a little like the one Gustav Graves gave ( try saying that when your drunk ) on Icarus.
Thats all from me I think
#24
Posted 02 November 2008 - 09:39 PM
Gemma's sensual moaning wanting to get busy with Mathis mirrored that chick moaning and begging Karem Bay to get busy with her in his office.
Edited by double o ego, 02 November 2008 - 09:40 PM.
#25
Posted 02 November 2008 - 09:44 PM
The most obvious, Fields covered in oil. But I still think that others are more subtle. Which means that they are not replicas to the original scenes, but have similar motifs.
I stand by the FYEO reference. I don't think it happened by coincidence.
Camille herself is a motif to Melina in FYEO.
Edited by bondrules, 02 November 2008 - 09:46 PM.
#26
Posted 02 November 2008 - 10:41 PM
I honestly felt BOND was going to shoot CAMILLE in the head in that scene - to put her out of her misery. Yes, I'm a sick puppy...Casino Royale:
In the eco hotel, Camille is reminded of the house fire of when she was a child, and she is sitting weeping in the corner, surrounded by fire. Bond hugs her and Bond starts to eye up the gas cannister - he would blow a hole in the wall and that would be their way out.
Bond is unsure, and a terrified Camille manages to say... "Take a deep breath, you only have one shot... make it count!". It really reminded me of a violent take on the shower scene.
Me too.
Everyone did, that's what we were lead to
The car chase at the begining, when they go off the road, where there are cranes and stuff, like Doctor No.
Camille is in fact melina, as mentioned.
The shot of Craig waiting in Yusef's house, very similar to CR pts, to -sort of- close the circle. Just like the camille/shower scene.
She was sea-sick/she 's just dead from TB (not a homage, but an obvious try to imitate the coolness).
The bad effect during the parachute, was that a homage to DAD?
The rooftop chase, was it the cut scene from OHMSS?
Universal exports, and Ken Adamesque design
Edited by pgram, 02 November 2008 - 10:46 PM.
#27
Posted 02 November 2008 - 10:49 PM
#28
Posted 02 November 2008 - 10:54 PM
#29
Posted 02 November 2008 - 11:04 PM
I honestly felt BOND was going to shoot CAMILLE in the head in that scene - to put her out of her misery. Yes, I'm a sick puppy...Casino Royale:
In the eco hotel, Camille is reminded of the house fire of when she was a child, and she is sitting weeping in the corner, surrounded by fire. Bond hugs her and Bond starts to eye up the gas cannister - he would blow a hole in the wall and that would be their way out.
Bond is unsure, and a terrified Camille manages to say... "Take a deep breath, you only have one shot... make it count!". It really reminded me of a violent take on the shower scene.
I think you may be right. Doesnt the cannister become apparent AFTER he has picked up the gun?
I always though that Bond was going to kill himself sooner than be captured in The Living Daylights when his drink has been drugged. Theres just a moment where he looks like he is trying to put the gun to his head before he passes out. Although in recent years I have thought perhaps I was wrong.
#30
Posted 02 November 2008 - 11:05 PM
Universal Exports is used for Bond's cover? I'm a Yank so I haven't seen the film yet.I honestly felt BOND was going to shoot CAMILLE in the head in that scene - to put her out of her misery. Yes, I'm a sick puppy...Casino Royale:
In the eco hotel, Camille is reminded of the house fire of when she was a child, and she is sitting weeping in the corner, surrounded by fire. Bond hugs her and Bond starts to eye up the gas cannister - he would blow a hole in the wall and that would be their way out.
Bond is unsure, and a terrified Camille manages to say... "Take a deep breath, you only have one shot... make it count!". It really reminded me of a violent take on the shower scene.
Me too.
Everyone did, that's what we were lead to
The car chase at the begining, when they go off the road, where there are cranes and stuff, like Doctor No.
Camille is in fact melina, as mentioned.
The shot of Craig waiting in Yusef's house, very similar to CR pts, to -sort of- close the circle. Just like the camille/shower scene.
She was sea-sick/she 's just dead from TB (not a homage, but an obvious try to imitate the coolness).
The bad effect during the parachute, was that a homage to DAD?
The rooftop chase, was it the cut scene from OHMSS?
Universal exports, and Ken Adamesque design