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#1 DamnCoffee

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 08:03 PM

Royal Dalton gave me a brilliant idea for a thread back in my 'London Chase' Thread.

I was wondering if anyone knew of any/early sequences in any of the Bond films that went unfilmed and were cut from the script or cut from the movie?

I know that in Die Another Day there was a scene that involved Bond disembarking the plane via the landing gear at Heathrow to avoid passport control. Which I think went unfilmed.

Plus Royal Dalton just told us of a scene in GoldenEye which involved Bond lying flat between the tracks as an underground train ran straight over him at the St. Petersburg underground tube station. Which was cut from the script.

#2 Vauxhall

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 08:08 PM

I know that in Die Another Day there was a scene that involved Bond disembarking the plane via the landing gear at Heathrow to avoid passport control. Which I think went unfilmed.

That, in fact, was filmed.

Scenes cut from CASINO ROYALE include:
- Bond pursuing Fisher at the cricket match in Pakistan
- Bond meeting Bliss on the train and "replacing" him
- Bond and Vesper swimming naked in the sea

#3 Jim

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 08:18 PM

There are photos kicking around somewhere of a scene in A View to a Kill when protesters take to boats in San Francisco Bay to protest against the oil drilling, or the script; I forget.

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 08:22 PM

Ahhh thats on the Ultimate Edition Jim. :tup:


One thing that does come to mind though is this...

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I really, REALLY want to see that.

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 08:27 PM

Ahhh thats on the Ultimate Edition Jim. :tup:


Fairy nuff. I haven't bought those. I am missing much of value.

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 08:28 PM

Well some of the Deleted Scenes are an interesting watch, and the Moore commenterys are quite entertaining. :tup:

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 02:36 AM

Royal Dalton gave me a brilliant idea for a thread back in my 'London Chase' Thread.

I was wondering if anyone knew of any/early sequences in any of the Bond films that went unfilmed and were cut from the script or cut from the movie?


I recently read an old interview with Tom Maciewicz conducted by Bondange magazine and he shared some early script ideas.

LIVE AND LET DIE:


A good example in that is the crocodile farm sequence where we just happened to run across it. In that exact place in the script Bond was thrown into a coffee granulator. There was a coffee plantation on the island, and there was a big fight over the top of this granulator and so on. When we were location hunting, we went by this place, and there was this sign, which really was there, saying Trespassers will be eaten , and we said wait a minute! Boy, did we find something better than coffee!

B: How did Bond get out of the coffee?

M: I can't remember... he hung onto something... all the stuff started coming out. I know his jacket was in there, there were bits of clothing that flew out and all of that sort of thing, but I can't really remember how he got out. That's one of the problems for a writer, getting Bond into the traps is easy... That crocodile trick, stepping on their backs, was the idea of the guy who owned the crocodile farm. I got Bond onto that island, and I couldn't get him off, and we were down in Jamaica, and we were shooting. Guy kept coming up to me and saying, By the way, how does Bond get off the island? I said, Don t worry Guy, have I ever let you down before? Harry Saltzman was saying How about a helicopter comes over... ? I said, No Harry, that's too easy. He had that cockamamie watch, but Guy and I wanted to use that as a red herring; that he would use that and the audience would go, Oh, he's going to use that and get the boat and then you'd see it was tied,so we could tease them. But Kananga, which was the name of the man who owned the farm said, Why the hell doesn't he jump over across their backs? And we said, Who would do that? and he said, I would, if you tied them down under the water. So that's how a lot of these things happen.



We thought, at one point, about bringing Ursula Andress back as Honeychile Rider and as a matter of fact, looking back on it now, it was a perfectly dreadful idea. We thought about bringing her back in Live and Let Die, but then we thought it would just be too jarring to have somebody who had a relationship with Sean on the screen, suddenly be lying in bed with another James Bond, you know, talk about the face isn t familiar , but there have been discussions. No Bond girl has returned as herself, I mean, no heroine has returned the way villains have. Blofeld is a recurring thing; Jaws has come back..... Looking back, the audience loved Jaws so much, that s why he's in Moonraker, unfortunately he's playing for comedy instead of menace. What was really wonderful in Spy, the first time he opened his mouth and you saw those teeth... even the lovable quality had in Spy came part and parcel with the feeling that he could kill somebody. When he grabbed Roger at the end and they had that fight you still thought there was some menace there.


MOONRAKER:

The story that I left was really about the kidnapping of a space shuttle. There was a girl killer in it, with a bow and arrow, and some of it was in the Himalayas.

B: I presume you took the girl with the bow and arrow from the Fleming short story...

M: No. I had a girl called The Archer . In the story that I left with them there was a sequence where she got killed at the Taj Mahal, there was a scene in Bombay; there was a wonderful sequence which I hope they use, in which Bond got in a fight with three fakirs in India. One with a rope trick, one lying on a bed of nails, whatever. The rope lashed out, got him around the neck, and the guys started beating him up; these three beggars. . I think it would be a lot of fun.



I remember another from Moonraker, specifically about the PTS. The scene with the circus was suppose to last alot longer and Jaws was filmed leaving the colasped tent.

Edited by Mister E, 21 July 2008 - 02:38 AM.


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Posted 21 July 2008 - 02:44 AM

Did they ever film the ice golf scene in DAD? I know that they were building the course.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 09:35 AM

Royal Dalton gave me a brilliant idea for a thread back in my 'London Chase' Thread.

I was wondering if anyone knew of any/early sequences in any of the Bond films that went unfilmed and were cut from the script or cut from the movie?


I recently read an old interview with Tom Maciewicz conducted by Bondange magazine and he shared some early script ideas.

LIVE AND LET DIE:


A good example in that is the crocodile farm sequence where we just happened to run across it. In that exact place in the script Bond was thrown into a coffee granulator. There was a coffee plantation on the island, and there was a big fight over the top of this granulator and so on. When we were location hunting, we went by this place, and there was this sign, which really was there, saying Trespassers will be eaten , and we said wait a minute! Boy, did we find something better than coffee!

B: How did Bond get out of the coffee?

M: I can't remember... he hung onto something... all the stuff started coming out. I know his jacket was in there, there were bits of clothing that flew out and all of that sort of thing, but I can't really remember how he got out. That's one of the problems for a writer, getting Bond into the traps is easy... That crocodile trick, stepping on their backs, was the idea of the guy who owned the crocodile farm. I got Bond onto that island, and I couldn't get him off, and we were down in Jamaica, and we were shooting. Guy kept coming up to me and saying, By the way, how does Bond get off the island? I said, Don t worry Guy, have I ever let you down before? Harry Saltzman was saying How about a helicopter comes over... ? I said, No Harry, that's too easy. He had that cockamamie watch, but Guy and I wanted to use that as a red herring; that he would use that and the audience would go, Oh, he's going to use that and get the boat and then you'd see it was tied,so we could tease them. But Kananga, which was the name of the man who owned the farm said, Why the hell doesn't he jump over across their backs? And we said, Who would do that? and he said, I would, if you tied them down under the water. So that's how a lot of these things happen.



We thought, at one point, about bringing Ursula Andress back as Honeychile Rider and as a matter of fact, looking back on it now, it was a perfectly dreadful idea. We thought about bringing her back in Live and Let Die, but then we thought it would just be too jarring to have somebody who had a relationship with Sean on the screen, suddenly be lying in bed with another James Bond, you know, talk about the face isn t familiar , but there have been discussions. No Bond girl has returned as herself, I mean, no heroine has returned the way villains have. Blofeld is a recurring thing; Jaws has come back..... Looking back, the audience loved Jaws so much, that s why he's in Moonraker, unfortunately he's playing for comedy instead of menace. What was really wonderful in Spy, the first time he opened his mouth and you saw those teeth... even the lovable quality had in Spy came part and parcel with the feeling that he could kill somebody. When he grabbed Roger at the end and they had that fight you still thought there was some menace there.


MOONRAKER:

The story that I left was really about the kidnapping of a space shuttle. There was a girl killer in it, with a bow and arrow, and some of it was in the Himalayas.

B: I presume you took the girl with the bow and arrow from the Fleming short story...

M: No. I had a girl called The Archer . In the story that I left with them there was a sequence where she got killed at the Taj Mahal, there was a scene in Bombay; there was a wonderful sequence which I hope they use, in which Bond got in a fight with three fakirs in India. One with a rope trick, one lying on a bed of nails, whatever. The rope lashed out, got him around the neck, and the guys started beating him up; these three beggars. . I think it would be a lot of fun.



I remember another from Moonraker, specifically about the PTS. The scene with the circus was suppose to last alot longer and Jaws was filmed leaving the colasped tent.


Whoa thanks Mr. E... that was Interesting! :tup:

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 03:42 PM

In the early script of TSWLM there was scene that showing the return of Blofeld. The scene stayed on the paper, because there was the famous legal fight Between Kevin McClory(executive producer of NSNA) and Ian fleming due to the desire of McClory to film a movie called Wathead.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 03:51 PM

Max Zorin's original scheme in A View to a Kill was not to trigger an earthquake, but rather, to alter the course of Halley's comet (which was due to appear in 1985) so that it would slam into Silicon Valley.

It's an ambitious idea and I'd be lying if I said I wasn't curious about what it would be like if it wasn't cut.

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Posted 21 July 2008 - 03:54 PM

I think we all know about the planned sequence in Diamonds Are Forever where Bond chased Blofeld into a salt mine. That would of been rather fun to see. :tup: