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Which Fleming title do you want for 'Bond 23'?

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#781 DaveBond21

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 04:16 AM

I'm sure that TPOAL was leading by more last time I checked the poll votes. Has there been a recent flurry in votes for Risico?

That is my choice out of the ones listed.

#782 DR76

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 06:11 AM

"Nobody Lives Forever". Oh wait . . . that's a John Gardner title.

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 01:30 AM

Okay, I've just come up with a title that I really like. It's not from Fleming, but I think it would really work. It's taken from TS Eliot's The Hollow Men:

IN DELIBERATE DISGUISES

It comes from the second stanza of the poem:

Let me also wear
Such deliberate disguises
Rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves
In a field
Behaving as the wind behaves

The poem is mostly concerned with Europe in the aftermath of World War I; this particular part invokes the sense of a battlefield when the war is over.

The reason why I like "In Deliberate Disguises" as a title is because of the wordplay involved. "In Deliberate Disguises" suggests a very conscious choice to disguise oneself. "Deliberate" means something that is carefully considered and done on purpose; it speaks to intention. But, on the other hand, "indeliberate" is the exact opposite - not unintnetional, but certainly something done without forethought. So, IN DELIBERATE DISGUISES could also be read as INDELIBERATE DISGUISES, and therefore mean both. It also has that questioning sense about it, promting audiences to ask who is in disguise and why are they doing it deliberately?

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 06:00 PM

Risico or The Property of a Lady. I voted Risico.
Doesn't have to mean anything really. It could be used as a codename or anything like that. Name of the villain et cetera.

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 06:34 PM

TOO HOT TO HANDLE is a terrific title. USE IT!

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 10:44 PM

Well, Bond has a history of using cliches as titles. The Living Daylights, for instance. But "Too Hot to Handle" is really bland and generic. It's like something you'd find splashed on a teenage girl's MySpace page. You might as well call it At the End of the Day or If Looks Could Kill.

I suggest Death Warmed Over. I can imagine Fleming using that, perhaps as a chapter title.

Actually, I'd prefer a title that's a concrete reference to something in the film, rather than a vaguely atmospheric phrase. That's why I like Casino Royale, and why I detest Quantum of Solace.

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 12:46 AM

How about La Tricoteuse? It was the final chapter in From Russia With Love, and while it referred to Rosa Klebb because she was associated with knitting needles ("la tricoteuse" means "knitter" in French), the origin of the actual word is a lot more sinister. "La Tricoteuse" was the name given to a group of women who sat around the guillotine during the French Revolution, spenind their time alternating between heckling the condemned and knitting. La Tricoteuse could be the name given to an assassin or a spy ring who use knitting needles as a signature weapon, a villain that Bond must track down.

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 01:43 AM

When you suggest La Tricoteuse, the first thing that pops into my head is that story told by Mankiewicz about Cubby Broccoli and Le Rochefoucauld:

"And Blofeld says, 'As François Duc de La Rochefoucauld once observed, humility is the worst form of conceit, I do hold the winning hand,' And I wrote that and Cubby once again said, 'You what?' I said, 'La Rochefoucauld, Cubby, 17th century French writer.'" Broccoli responded with: "Get it out."

From then on the producer started calling it 'the Nicklaus line.' "He'd call and say, is that Nicklaus line still in there? Guy Hamilton loved it and he shot it in the scene in such a way that it had to be in the movie because there was no coverage and Cubby got furious, and I mean furious like you know, really angry. He said, 'I told you guys that I did not want that Goddamn Nicklaus line in there.'"



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Posted 30 September 2011 - 01:57 AM

I don't really understand that story. Can you perhaps add a little context to it, please?

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 02:12 AM

I don't really understand that story. Can you perhaps add a little context to it, please?


To put it mildly, Cubby Broccoli was not an intellectual. During the production of Diamonds Are Forever, Mankiewicz, the screenwriter, put in a line about La Rochefoucauld that Cubby found intolerably cerebral. God knows why. I guess the name just sounded too long and foreign. Anyway, Cubby wanted it taken out, but Mankiewicz and the director connived to keep the line in. And succeeded.

My point is that a French-sounding title would probably not sit well with old Cubby. I doubt if he would have gone for Quantum of Solace either.

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 02:30 AM

Ah. Well, it's been a while since I've seen DAF, so I don't really remember the line.

But there is a precedent for "La Tricoteuse" given its use in FRWL (and the fact that Klebb's knitting needle was not used). And it could easily be worked into the story. Perhaps as the code-name for a French-Vietnamese assassin working for the Chiese government (her father having been a North Vietnamese official who traded with the Chinese for arms during the Vietnam War).

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 07:39 PM

TOO HOT TO HANDLE

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 06:33 PM

Too Hot To Handle isn't really a proper Fleming title, though. Besides, there are loads of films called that already.

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 12:38 PM

TOO HOT TO HANDLE is a terrific title. USE IT!


For a pørn movie perhaps. Not for a Bond film.

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 02:11 PM

I heard a whisper bond 23 is indeed The Property of a Lady time will tell if this is true or not

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 02:53 PM

I heard a whisper bond 23 is indeed The Property of a Lady time will tell if this is true or not


Where did you hear this whisper?

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 03:09 PM

TOO HOT TO HANDLE is a terrific title. USE IT!


Tell Alec Baldwin and Kim Basinger!

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 03:44 AM

I heard a whisper bond 23 is indeed The Property of a Lady time will tell if this is true or not

That's funny, because a lot of publications like Empire are tipping THE HILDEBRAND RARITY as the title. Nobody is "whispering" about THE PROPERTY OF A LADY.

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 04:09 AM

This is wierd. I tried to post in this thread and got this virus message.

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Not sure if my Antivirus is to blame, or do we have a problem?

Have replied this time through 'fast reply'.

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 11:58 AM

I heard a whisper bond 23 is indeed The Property of a Lady time will tell if this is true or not

You sure?

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 01:12 AM


I heard a whisper bond 23 is indeed The Property of a Lady time will tell if this is true or not

You sure?

So the whisper wrong and Bond 23 is officially Skyfall so what I never said bond 23 was The property of a lady just what i had heard!


And when was bond 23 whispered to be the Hildebrand Rarity

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 07:42 PM

when was bond 23 whispered to be the Hildebrand Rarity


...a lot of publications like Empire are tipping THE HILDEBRAND RARITY as the title.


Although I suspect the Fleming debate may be moot now anyway.

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 02:40 PM

SeaFire
SkyFall

SeaFall
SkyFire

ok I was bored ... just wanted to point out the similarities in the lettering

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 04:54 PM

Blood Stone is a good title

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Posted 12 November 2011 - 04:54 PM

MOONRAKER

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Posted 12 November 2011 - 09:49 PM

Skyfall it is. No Fleming title this time, I'm afraid. Over and out!

Edited by Mharkin, 12 November 2011 - 09:49 PM.





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