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The Worst Main Villain in a Bond Film


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#1 Carolinabond007

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 01:59 PM

My vote goes to Elliott Carver from TND.

#2 Mr. Blofeld

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 02:04 PM

Blofeld in YOLT; so incompetent, yet he lives in a [censored]ing volcano lair. :D

#3 HH007

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 02:07 PM

My vote goes to Elliott Carver from TND.


Yes, Elliot Carver is high on my list of worst villains. But for me the very worst has to be Jeroen Krabbe's Russian General from TLD. Talk about the least formidable Bond villain ever. The guy was a complete wuss.

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 02:12 PM

My vote goes to Elliott Carver from TND.


Yes, Elliot Carver is high on my list of worst villains. But for me the very worst has to be Jeroen Krabbe's Russian General from TLD. Talk about the least formidable Bond villain ever. The guy was a complete wuss.


Compared to my namesake, he had the heart of a lion. :D

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 02:13 PM

Yep Koskov was a wuss and Brad Whitaker was bad too.

My Worst Five:
1. Elliott Carver (TND)
2. Koskov/Brad Whitaker (TLD)
3. Gustav Graves (DAD)
4. Aristotle Kristatos (FYEO)
5. Hugo Drax (Moonraker)

#6 killkenny kid

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 02:13 PM

For me, it was Max Zorin. :D

#7 Carolinabond007

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 02:15 PM

Max Zorin is my #6 worst

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 02:35 PM

My friends and I have a drinking game called the Hugo Drax. We watch Moonraker and every time Hugo Drax does or says anything thats really lame, we drink. We get good and drunk.

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 02:41 PM

Yep...my vote goes to Elliot, too. I like Jonathan Pryce quite a bit. I cringe when he's Elliot Carver.

I dunno, he's just so...foppish? I put more blame on the script than on him. Some of his big "trailer lines" were oh, so bad.

"There's no news...(bathroom break)...like BAD news." And then I'm just sitting there like :D until the next scene.

And when he mocks Wai Lin's martial arts...oh, that's just painful. Winceworthy.

I did rather like the manner in which he died, although he sure didn't put up very much of a struggle. He just sat there like, "NO! NO! NO!!!!!!" And thus, it became a B-movie death. Oh well, Elliot.

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 02:49 PM

Carver's mocking Wai Lin was definitely Austin Powerish in its silliness.....an embarrassment looking back. Definitely painful to watch and juvenile. Bush league for Bond.

Another bad villain...Charles Gray's Blofeld from DAF. I think he was the least effective Blofeld with Savalas being the best of the three. Blofeld dressing up in drag.....terrible.

Edited by Carolinabond007, 16 November 2007 - 02:53 PM.


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Posted 16 November 2007 - 02:53 PM

Carver's mocking Wai Lin was definitely Austin Powerish in its silliness.....an embarrassment looking back. Definitely painful to watch and juvenile.


That part actually made me laugh. It was one of the few moments of TND that ellicited a positive response from me.

#12 Mr_Wint

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 02:53 PM

Brad Whitaker in TLD.

(BTW, I think Carver was a great character - Brosnan's best villain)

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 03:38 PM

I loved Carver.

My vote goes to Kananga. Two personalities: Both of them dull.

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 03:50 PM

Yep Koskov was a wuss and Brad Whitaker was bad too.


Agreed. This is one of The Living Daylights' greatest flaws: its villains. Koskov and Whitaker are not nearly a match for James Bond. They're certainly out menaced by their henchman!

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 04:06 PM

Renard in TWINE. In interesting idea that was never developed or really given much to do.

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 04:09 PM

Kamal Khan

Doesn't appear to have any point at all. Why does he do what he does? What's actually in it for him?

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 04:25 PM

Kamal Khan

Doesn't appear to have any point at all. Why does he do what he does? What's actually in it for him?

He'll get the real jewels.

#18 Cruiserweight

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 04:27 PM

Georgi Koskov

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 04:31 PM

Kamal Khan

Doesn't appear to have any point at all. Why does he do what he does? What's actually in it for him?

He'll get the real jewels.


T'riffic.

#20 Skudor

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 06:24 PM

Whitaker.

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 07:01 PM

Brad Whitaker in TLD.

(BTW, I think Carver was a great character - Brosnan's best villain)


I agree with you Mr. Wint! Carver was a good baddie and I think Jonathan Pryce did a great job..

Certainly Koskov was one of my least favorite villians, but my all time worst villian has to go to Julian Glover's Kristatos.. He just came off as a way too nice guy to be considered a sinister baddie! Plus his half-assed plan to run down Bond and Melina and assume the sharks would eat them was almost laughable.. I did enjoy that sequence but it just seemed that he gave up too easily once the rope that was dragging Bond and Melina snapped..

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 07:23 PM

The Whitaker/Koskov duo. GAH! I

#23 The Richmond Spy

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 07:42 PM

Has to be the TLD guys for me

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 11:33 PM

Let's not forget about Knick Knack, with his hiding under furniture and other silly shenanigans

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 11:47 PM

My top five worst villains

Kristatos(FYEO) - dull, dull, dull. Non threatening, makes no impression whatsoever. The parrot has more personality.

Koskov (TLD) - bit of a buffoon really and certainly not menacing, but is suitably smug and makes you want to see him get his comeuppance - which strangely never happens.

Carver (TND) - Just a bit silly all round, with or without the kung fu parody.

Renard/Elektra (TWINE) - Not quite sure which one is The Villain, exactly, so I'll nominate them both for never being as interesting as the script wants us to think they are, e.g. more could have been done with Renard's inability to feel pain.

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Posted 17 November 2007 - 12:11 AM

A lot of the 80s villains licked ***!!

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Posted 17 November 2007 - 12:32 AM

Aristotle Kristatos.

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Posted 17 November 2007 - 01:21 AM

Koskov and Whitaker from The Living Daylights--they together count as that film's main villain for me.

They both could have been so much more interesting.

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Posted 17 November 2007 - 03:02 AM

I hate to say this but Auric Goldfinger has my vote. Don't get me wrong. I loved Gert Frobe's performance as the villainous millionaire. But he made some of the dumbest mistakes in the Bond franchise's history.

If I had been Goldfinger, Bond would have been dead after the first encounter in Miami. Oddjob is ordered to kill Jill Masterson and leave Bond alive? Huh? Of course some would say that Goldfinger left Bond alive to take the fall for Jill's death. Okay . . . I'm willing to buy that. But after Switzerland, Bond's [censored] should have been dead. But Goldfinger kept him alive. When Bond had first mentioned Operation Whatever-it-was, Goldfinger should have resorted to nefarious means to learn what Bond really knew. Then scrag his butt. But no . . . all Bond had to do was mention the name of Goldfinger's Fort Knox operation, and the latter kept him alive.

Then Goldfinger revealed his Fort Knox plan to the Mafia bosses . . . before having them killed. I realize that this little scene has been previously argued to death, but I guess my feelings about it remains. As for Goldfinger's final dealing with Bond . . . handcuff him to a nuclear bomb? Why not simply put a bullet in Bond's chest and be done with the guy?


Like I had said, I loved Gert Frobe's portrayal of Goldfinger, but the character itself left much to be desired.

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Posted 17 November 2007 - 04:26 AM

As for Goldfinger's final dealing with Bond . . . handcuff him to a nuclear bomb? Why not simply put a bullet in Bond's chest and be done with the guy?

So why pick on Goldfinger for this when practically every other villain in the series had the same opportunity?



I'm amazed nobody has mentioned Stromberg. This guy barely leaves his chair, much less does anything. He pushes buttons to kill people, eats seafood, orders his henchmen, shows Bond rare fish, barks and gloats to the captured sub crews and that's about it. He doesn't even leave his seat to try and kill Bond.

Cool voice and that's about it.