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[Righty007]

What's their job for Bond 22? Paul Haggis seems to be the only writer yet we know Neal Purvis and Robert Wade are working on the film. Did they come up with the story so that Haggis can write the script? He seems to be doing way more than just a polish for this one. I'm confused.

[ACE]

Purvis and Wade were hired to write a first draft script of Bond 22 before Casino Royale commenced principal photography. They submitted their first draft at the top of this year and then went on to work on Barbarella. Subsequently, Paul Haggis was hired to work on the script. I guess in the reporting of the Haggis stories, neither he nor the interviewer wants to muddy the headline waters by invoking P&W. I believe that Haggis is rewriting P&W, but more substantially this time, unlike the polish of Casino Royale.

[dinovelvet]

What's their job for Bond 22? Paul Haggis seems to be the only writer yet we know Neal Purvis and Robert Wade are working on the film. Did they come up with the story so that Haggis can write the script? He seems to be doing way more than just a polish for this one. I'm confused.

I'm going to guess that they came up with the basic story, and a treatment for the film, perhaps writing a skeleton, bare bones first draft. But its clear that Haggis is doing a complete rewrite of whatever they came up with, from page one. He is absolutely the main writer for Bond 22.

[DaveBond21]

I'm going to guess that they came up with the basic story, and a treatment for the film, perhaps writing a skeleton, bare bones first draft. But its clear that Haggis is doing a complete rewrite of whatever they came up with, from page one. He is absolutely the main writer for Bond 22.

Yeah, I think everyone gets the feeling that Purvis & Wade have not done quite as good a job as they did on CR, and Haggis is rewriting a lot of stuff. However, P&W do come up with the plot and I think some of the action or chase scenes too.

[Royal Dalton]

They probably wrote three drafts of the script, and Haggis is now rewriting it to Forster's specifications. However extensive that might be.

I think it'll be rewritten a lot more than the last film was, though. Campbell probably worked with Purvis and Wade on the Casino Royale script, so he would have had some influence there to begin with.

Whereas Forster signed up after their script had already been completed. So he's going to want to bring his own ideas to the table.

[DLibrasnow]

Yeah, I think everyone gets the feeling that Purvis & Wade have not done quite as good a job as they did on CR,

Well Purvis and Wade got a lot of help from Ian Fleming when writing Casino Royale.

Remember, Purvis and Wade are the team that gave us Die Another Day.

[Qwerty]

Purvis and Wade were hired to write a first draft script of Bond 22 before Casino Royale commenced principal photography. They submitted their first draft at the top of this year and then went on to work on Barbarella. Subsequently, Paul Haggis was hired to work on the script. I guess in the reporting of the Haggis stories, neither he nor the interviewer wants to muddy the headline waters by invoking P&W. I believe that Haggis is rewriting P&W, but more substantially this time, unlike the polish of Casino Royale.

Sounds about right to me. It seems like all we've heard about the Casino Royale script lately has come from Haggis over the course of several weeks (and with him not even halfway through, it definitely looks like we can expect alot of his input in this one).

Not that I'm complaining.

[JimmyBond]

I'm giong to hold by my prediction that only Haggis will be credited this time, since he seems to be changing so much of their work.

As for how long this thing is, could there be a possibility it's going to be longer (or just as long) as Casino Royale?

[ACE]

IMHO, it is very very unlikely that P & W will not receive a credit. First writers usually are in a very strong position. Also, it is their work that was an element in securing the director. Now, a director almost always requests rewrites and with the Haggis connection, it is a no brainer.

[Mr_Wint]

Yeah, I think everyone gets the feeling that Purvis & Wade have not done quite as good a job as they did on CR,

Well Purvis and Wade got a lot of help from Ian Fleming when writing Casino Royale.

Remember, Purvis and Wade are the team that gave us Die Another Day.

I wouldn't overestimate the help they got from Fleming. Casino Royale is a good book but you cant film it from page to page and expect to get a good film. We are not talking about anything close to OHMSS here.

[Publius]

Well Purvis and Wade got a lot of help from Ian Fleming when writing Casino Royale.

Remember, Purvis and Wade are the team that gave us Die Another Day.

To be honest, as much as I love the poker game, my favorite part of CR was all the original material.

And what sunk DAD was bad writing and bad CGI. Haggis prevents the former while the new direction prevents the latter. Plus, no offense to Brosnan, but we also have Daniel Craig on board.

I think P&W aren't necessarily bad at ideas. They're just like George Lucas in that they should leave the fleshing out to other people.

[SecretAgentFan]

Yeah, I think everyone gets the feeling that Purvis & Wade have not done quite as good a job as they did on CR,

Well Purvis and Wade got a lot of help from Ian Fleming when writing Casino Royale.

Remember, Purvis and Wade are the team that gave us Die Another Day.

Here we go again, the P&W bashing continues...

Okay, let

[zencat]

I'm wondering if maybe P&W only wrote a treatment?

I think it's possible we won't see their names on the final credits. Or maybe just a "story by" credit.

[Judo chop]

I'm wondering if maybe P&W only wrote a treatment?

I think it's possible we won't see their names on the final credits. Or maybe just a "story by" credit.

I wonder too. And the wondering doesn

[dodge]

[quote name='Judo chop' post='775127' date='20 September 2007 - 18:26'][quote name='zencat' post='775116' date='20 September 2007 - 12:54']I'm wondering if maybe P&W only wrote a treatment?

I think it's possible we won't see their names on the final credits. Or maybe just a "story by" credit.[/quote]
I wonder too. And the wondering doesn

[JimmyBond]

Apologies, but in lay terms, what exactly is a treatment?

[Judo chop]

Apologies, but in lay terms, what exactly is a treatment?

Once this fine question gets answered, I hope you don't mind if I stick it in the Showbiz Q & A thread I opened yesterday.

Just to keep things nice and tidy, y'know?

[LadySylvia]

Well Purvis and Wade got a lot of help from Ian Fleming when writing Casino Royale.

Remember, Purvis and Wade are the team that gave us Die Another Day.

Then they did both a good and bad job. One can praise them for a strong first half of the film. And one can criticize them for the inferior second half.

[JimmyBond]

Apologies, but in lay terms, what exactly is a treatment?

Once this fine question gets answered, I hope you don't mind if I stick it in the Showbiz Q & A thread I opened yesterday.

Not at all, I don't copyright my postings

[zencat]

Apologies, but in lay terms, what exactly is a treatment?

Once this fine question gets answered, I hope you don't mind if I stick it in the Showbiz Q & A thread I opened yesterday.

Not at all, I don't copyright my postings

A treatment is anywhere from a 10 to 50 page prose outline of the story. Unlike a script, it doesn't (shouldn't) include dialog, slug lines, stage direction, etc.

[JimmyBond]

That's more or less what I thought it meant, thanks zencat