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[Qwerty]

[box]

Harry Potter takes film franchise crown from James Bond

The Harry Potter film series has become the biggest in box office history, beating James Bond and Star Wars.

The five movies have taken $4.47bn (

[Righty007]

that ! Harry Potter is a ing !

[AgentPB]

Yeah well there are only going to be two more harry potter films so I'm not too worried. Bond will reign Supreme in the end, especially if we have a few more like CR

[Righty007]

Yeah well there are only going to be two more harry potter films so I'm not too worried. Bond will reign Supreme in the end, especially if we have a few more like CR

That's a good way to look at it.

[zencat]

That punk.

[HildebrandRarity]

It's funny how things are portrayed. One day Potter will be beaten down into 3rd place by Bond and someone else. If Lucas does 3 more, well...

[Cruiserweight]

What's with all the Harry Potter hate? I love Harry Potter! I find it quite funny that with only 5 films in the bag so far that it's been able to beat the 007 franchise.

[jaguar007]

What's with all the Harry Potter hate? I love Harry Potter! I find it quite funny that with only 5 films in the bag so far that it's been able to beat the 007 franchise.

Now lets look at these adjusted for inflation. if we adjusted them for inflation the Bond movies from the 60's would have been almost 4billion.

[MkB]

Yeah well there are only going to be two more harry potter films so I'm not too worried. Bond will reign Supreme in the end, especially if we have a few more like CR

Sure. No doubt we'll soon restore the Bond Supremacy ;-)

[sharpshooter]

Well.. what do you expect. Millions of kiddy winks out there who got hooked on the good first few books and then the mediocre remainders.

[Sbott]

Bond will be Back

Harry Potter will lose his crown once the Young Bond Franchise kicks in.....

[Cruiserweight]

Well.. what do you expect. Millions of kiddy winks out there who got hooked on the good first few books and then the mediocre remainders.

Mediocre remainders?

Now i'm a huge Bond fan,have been before i was a Potter fan but it seems like everyone is trying to make exscuses for the Potter films outdoing the Bond films.Potter has made more money then bond so what?


Is it really neccsary to downgrade one film franchise because of your love for another?

Edited by Cruiserweight, 12 September 2007 - 02:58 AM.

[Professor Dent]

What's with all the Harry Potter hate? I love Harry Potter! I find it quite funny that with only 5 films in the bag so far that it's been able to beat the 007 franchise.

Now lets look at these adjusted for inflation. if we adjusted them for inflation the Bond movies from the 60's would have been almost 4billion.

Excellent point. Plus, Radcliffe doesn't have that "boy wizard" look working much anymore. By the time the last movie comes out, he'll look like he belongs in the last season of Beverly Hills 90210 or maybe he'll look more like Sir Roger did in AVTAK.

[Johnboy007]

But James Bond will go on. Harry will not.

*yawn* Next?

[LadySylvia]

I love the JAMES BOND franchise.

I love the HARRY POTTER franchise.

But honestly, why does the media thinks it's a big deal over which franchise earns the most money? I think I'm getting tired of their crap.

[Qwerty]

Yeah well there are only going to be two more harry potter films

Quite true. And if Bond 22 continues the box office success that Casino Royale did...

[K1Bond007]

Bond will always win in the end because he's going to have a longer film-life-span. Besides.. is it really fair to compare 5 recent Harry Potter films to a series that is over 40 years old and no offense to us fans and the franchise we love, but clearly past its prime? I mean Royale was popular and it really drove in the numbers, but it was still nowhere near Goldfinger and Thunderball's success. If you take a look at inflation, Bond is really closer to 10 billion.

Whatever. This is just a pissing contest by Warner Bros. As said, there's only two of those films left and there's probably infinitely more Bond films left. Not to mention the re-popularization of Bond with Daniel Craig. Bond 22 could potentially do even better than Royale.

[sharpshooter]

Mediocre remainders?

Now i'm a huge Bond fan,have been before i was a Potter fan but it seems like everyone is trying to make exscuses for the Potter films outdoing the Bond films.Potter has made more money then bond so what?

It is my opinion, that is all.

I liked the ideas and concepts in the remainders, but didnt find them by far as good as the first three.

[David Schofield]

Crickey, some Bond fans are sensitive!

I'm no Potter fan, but the character - literary, cinematically - IS more popular than Bond. Just live with it. Doesn't stop you enjoying Bond, does it?

For what it worth, if they keep churning out Bond films they will put Bond back on top. You know, Bond will HAVE to churn out a greater number of films to surpass Potter. (Then again, despite Rowling's assurances, I don't think we've seen the last of Potter in books and therefore movies).

And, as has already been noted, just inflation adjust the '60s films.

[dinovelvet]

Crickey, some Bond fans are sensitive!

I'm no Potter fan, but the character - literary, cinematically - IS more popular than Bond. Just live with it.

I'm not living with anything of the sort, because it isn't true. Or rather, its one version of the truth. Which of these Potter films had more admissions than Thunderball or Goldfinger?

Here is a box office chart featuring the highest grosses of all time (US), adjusted for inflation - Goldfinger is at no.39 and Thunderball is 26. Harry Potter's sole entry is at no. 65 - Thanks for playing, Harry!

http://www.boxoffice...me/adjusted.htm

[Zorin Industries]

Well it just shows the public will pay money to see anything. The HARRY POTTER films are tepid, episodic and over-designed films based on tepid, episodic and over-written books. The first couple or so books were okay for their market, but when success loomed for Ms Rowling, out went a story editor and in came countless passages of waffle under the guise of wonderment.

The films have fared no better as they are dull and safe retreads of the books episodic structure that have been treading water narrative-wise for two films now (a bit like books 4 and 5).

JK Rowling may have had her finger on the pulse once and fair play to her success, but she really should have butted out of the films which should have soared above the books, but have only been bogged down by cramming every detail in. And if someone else says to me when I despise the films, "yes, but that character needed to be in that film as they are important in the next book", I will scream. For instance, Helena Bonham Carter's role in the fifth film was redundant. I don't care that she has narrative importance in future books. This is the fifth film and needs to work as a stand-alone film (something the HARRY POTTER films will never achieve when compared to BOND). If characters and plotlines are so intrinsically intertwined with later books and films, I see that as a major flaw in both.

No-one said DARTH VADER is necessary because he turns out to be LUKE's father. DARTH VADER was a rounded character BEFORE we had that revelation.

BOND has nothing to worry about. I can't see HARRY POTTER films still being discussed in depth on websites in 50 years time...

HARRY POTTER films are like a Happy Meal. They're an okay idea at the time, but give you little cinematic nourishment once you've parted with your money. And Daniel Radcliffe is the worst child actor ever and continues to get poorer. He allegedly only got the gig as his Dad was the UK's leading literary agent with in-roads into the publishing house in question.

Edited by Zorin Industries, 12 September 2007 - 10:31 AM.

[David Schofield]

Crickey, some Bond fans are sensitive!

I'm no Potter fan, but the character - literary, cinematically - IS more popular than Bond. Just live with it.

I'm not living with anything of the sort, because it isn't true. Or rather, its one version of the truth. Which of these Potter films had more admissions than Thunderball or Goldfinger?

Here is a box office chart featuring the highest grosses of all time (US), adjusted for inflation - Goldfinger is at no.39 and Thunderball is 26. Harry Potter's sole entry is at no. 65 - Thanks for playing, Harry!

Dino, what I was trying to suggest is that for the span of his lifetime, Harry Potter has been more popular - and hence financially successful - IMO than Bond over the same period. And that, sadly, without adjusting for inflation of the older films, that remains the cse going back to 1962. As I noted, and you observe, inflation adjsutment changes that.

However, it does not alter my fascination with James Bond, regardless of how successful he might be versus the "competition".

[Mike00spy]

Well it just shows the public will pay money to see anything. The HARRY POTTER films are tepid, episodic and over-designed films based on tepid, episodic and over-written books. The first couple or so books were okay for their market, but when success loomed for Ms Rowling, out went a story editor and in came countless passages of waffle under the guise of wonderment.

The films have fared no better as they are dull and safe retreads of the books episodic structure that have been treading water narrative-wise for two films now (a bit like books 4 and 5).

JK Rowling may have had her finger on the pulse once and fair play to her success, but she really should have butted out of the films which should have soared above the books, but have only been bogged down by cramming every detail in. And if someone else says to me when I despise the films, "yes, but that character needed to be in that film as they are important in the next book", I will scream. For instance, Helena Bonham Carter's role in the fifth film was redundant. I don't care that she has narrative importance in future books. This is the fifth film and needs to work as a stand-alone film (something the HARRY POTTER films will never achieve when compared to BOND). If characters and plotlines are so intrinsically intertwined with later books and films, I see that as a major flaw in both.

No-one said DARTH VADER is necessary because he turns out to be LUKE's father. DARTH VADER was a rounded character BEFORE we had that revelation.

BOND has nothing to worry about. I can't see HARRY POTTER films still being discussed in depth on websites in 50 years time...

HARRY POTTER films are like a Happy Meal. They're an okay idea at the time, but give you little cinematic nourishment once you've parted with your money. And Daniel Radcliffe is the worst child actor ever and continues to get poorer. He allegedly only got the gig as his Dad was the UK's leading literary agent with in-roads into the publishing house in question.

Wow. And you love A View To A Kill?

[Jim]

Some popular entertainment liked more or less than some other popular entertainment shock.

[Bucky]

loved harry potter 3. i thought 4 was pretty good while 1 and 2 were god awful. have not gotten around to seeing 5. it will only be a matter of time before bond retakes the crown, though it would be nice if craig was bond when it happened.

[DamnCoffee]

I like Harry Potter, but I prefer Bond more . Bond will come out on top in the end though, Not infront or behind, BUT ON TOP!

[Cruiserweight]

I love bond but in my opinion Harry Potter has surpassed bond as a more popular character both in film and literature and it will remain that way for quite awhile.I still can't believe that members of this boards love for bond keeps them from giving praise to another film series.There has been barely a word of praise in this entire thread for the Potter films.

Edited by Cruiserweight, 12 September 2007 - 05:02 PM.

[Orion]

No reason to be upset, this was inevitable, Harry Potter goes out to a much wider audience than Bond,

[jaguar007]

Right now in the present, Harry Potter is more popular than James BOnd. However Harry Potter is not a popular as James Bond was in the 1960s.

[DamnCoffee]

There has been barely a word of praise in this entire thread for the Potter films.

Well afterall, CBn is exactly Harry Potter orientated.