I always thought of Denise Richards as a fun character who you don't realy have to take very seriously.
What I mean is: they invented this character deliberately like this.
Edited by Grard Bond, 04 July 2014 - 02:02 PM.
Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:10 PM
I always thought of Denise Richards as a fun character who you don't realy have to take very seriously.
What I mean is: they invented this character deliberately like this.
Edited by Grard Bond, 04 July 2014 - 02:02 PM.
Posted 03 July 2014 - 11:33 PM
I also don't mind Richards in the role. Don't understand what the (negative) fuss was about her.
Posted 04 July 2014 - 12:35 AM
Edited by LKane, 04 July 2014 - 12:44 AM.
Posted 04 July 2014 - 04:31 AM
There's nothing wrong with Denise Richards in The World is Not Enough. Her and the Dr. Christmas Jones character are far from the biggest problem with that terrible film.
Posted 04 July 2014 - 08:01 AM
Hey tdalton,
Can you develop on this ?
I consider TWINE as a missed opportunity. Pretty good plot. Good villains, great Pierce but it does not come together. Slow pace, poor sequences : ski chase, Casino scene...
Posted 04 July 2014 - 10:29 AM
Barbara Windsor?
OK, that's going too far!
Babs isn't better suited to the role..... she's about even with Richards
...the Dr. Christmas Jones character are far from the biggest problem with that terrible film.
Agreed. The biggest problem is that it has 2 directors with totally different styles.
It flip-flops from Apted's sedate, introspective cerebrum, to Vic Armstrong's bish-bash-bosh-BANG by the numbers action set-pieces.
The result is a bloody mess that makes it tonely more akin to the original Casino Royale than to an Eon movie.
Sure, many Bond movies suffer from this, but TWINE took it to a whole new level.
Edited by Odd Jobbies, 04 July 2014 - 10:31 AM.
Posted 04 July 2014 - 02:33 PM
Edited by LKane, 04 July 2014 - 02:40 PM.
Posted 04 July 2014 - 03:14 PM
The lack of focus certainly didn't help The World is Not Enough, but I think what doomed it even more than that was that both of the dueling styles were done terribly. The action sequences were awful and the "dramatic" scenes were even worse.
Posted 04 July 2014 - 03:20 PM
Posted 04 July 2014 - 05:14 PM
The action in those films was beginning to feel like video-game stuff just thrown in irregardless of the story.
i've always felt the character should have been a man. I think having it a woman took emphasis off the Bond-Elektra relationship. Plus, Richards just looked too young next to Brosnan. She was 27, looking like 21.
Posted 04 July 2014 - 05:54 PM
I always wanted to see Polly Walker in a Bond film (Patriot Games, recently Clash of the Titans and John Carter). She would have been 33 at the time.
Posted 05 July 2014 - 03:13 AM
Edited by LKane, 05 July 2014 - 03:14 AM.
Posted 05 July 2014 - 06:53 PM
I don't know about that. In those years it really got tiresome for the Bond girls to be promoted as Bond's partner's basically. We saw that in the previous film TND, then again with Jinx in DAD. With the Craig movies they've gotten back to having interesting women that don't have to be Bond's physlcal equal.
At any rate that's interesting what you shared. Bond use to have some interesting male ally's in the older film's. I think that the Christmas Jones character would have been a good place for that. It's like they wanted to do a serious film about Bond and Elektra, but they wouldn't push it all the way. Finally they did with Casino Royale and QOS.
Posted 05 July 2014 - 11:54 PM
Posted 06 July 2014 - 03:59 AM
I think almost any actress from the period would have been more suitable. I know a character like Christmas Jones (superhot nuclear scientist in a tank top with a gag name) isnt really meant to be taken too seriously, but casting Denise Richards was like putting Pamela Anderson in a Bond film.
I'd have liked:
Mira Sorvino
Claire Forlani
Julie Delpy
Bridget Fonda
Jewel
Liv Tyler
Posted 06 July 2014 - 08:38 AM
How about Lassie?
One bark for "I've got a PHD...."
Two barks for "...And very large breasts."
Couldn't be any worse than Richards!
Posted 06 July 2014 - 11:53 AM
That ofcourse would have been the nr one choice, unfortunately Lassie was already too old in 1999 to play that part credibly.
Posted 06 July 2014 - 11:37 PM
Posted 07 July 2014 - 03:55 AM
The concept of the character is inherently silly. "Smoking-hot top-heavy nuclear scientist" is going to be cartoony and obnoxious no matter who you cast. I would have rewritten the role as a more grounded and plausible character with subtler charms, in the tradition of Natalya Simyonova, and cast somebody like Gillian Anderson.
Posted 07 July 2014 - 09:06 AM
TBH the character feels like an add on.
The story is 100% about another Bond love affair gone wrong - another betrayal, like Vesper.
IMO it's a strong premiss until you factor in Richards. No doubt Eon feared it was too dower and wanted some tits'n ass for Bond to letch over. Suddenly theres a barbie-doll nuclear physicist with a rack popping up to give us unnecessary exposition about nuclear whatever which has never been needed in past movies.
Basically i think Eon bottled it and screwed up a strong and focused premiss. i imagine the extra screen time needed for this character was taken away from other characters, namely Renard, who barely features, despite the promotionals pushing him as the scary big-bad.
I'd also guess they hooked Apted on the script before adding Richards' Carry-On titty-scientist. Poor guy signs up to something tonally akin to FRWL, but has to shoot something more akin to TSWLM. He's not a Carry-On director, which is why the whole thing is an uneven mess. I may be wrong, but the movie finished movie says that something went wrong.
Edited by Odd Jobbies, 07 July 2014 - 09:11 AM.
Posted 07 July 2014 - 05:50 PM
TBH the character feels like an add on.
The story is 100% about another Bond love affair gone wrong - another betrayal, like Vesper.
IMO it's a strong premiss
until you factor in Richards. No doubt Eon feared it was too dower
and wanted some tits'n ass for Bond to letch over. Suddenly theres
a barbie-doll
nuclear physicist with a rack popping up
to give us unnecessary exposition about nuclear whatever which has never been needed in past movies.
Basically i
think Eon bottled it
and screwed up a strong and focused premiss.
i
imagine the extra screen time needed for this character was taken away from other characters, namely Renard, who barely features, despite the promotionals pushing him as the scary big-bad.
I'd also guess they hooked Apted on the script
before adding Richards' Carry-On titty-scientist.
Poor guy signs up to
something tonally akin to FRWL, but has to shoot something more akin to TSWLM. He's not a Carry-On
Posted 07 July 2014 - 05:59 PM
director, which is why the whole thing is an uneven mess. I may be wrong, but the movie finished movie
says that something went wrong.
Edited by Odd Jobbies, Today, 09:11 AM.
Posted 07 July 2014 - 07:00 PM
Yes I'm a total wanker.
Agreed
Posted 07 July 2014 - 10:35 PM
Agreed
You forgot the full stop.
Posted 08 July 2014 - 12:36 AM
Posted 08 July 2014 - 10:25 AM
Agreed
You forgot the full stop.
How about two of them ..7
OddJobbie and Glidrose, I think you two need to be the ones to rewrite Bond 24! ; )
The new P&W (Punctuation & Wanker)
Posted 08 July 2014 - 12:02 PM