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[Shaun Forever]

I know it's too late now, but there was so much to love about OHMSS, especially the cast (George included IMO). I really liked Draco, always wished he could have come back for another Bond movie, for me one of Bonds best alies, only rivaled by Ali Kerim Bey. I also thought that Bunt was a good character, not your typical henchwoman. Though I'm not sure what they would have done with her character had they made a proper sequel, the actress died the same year OHMSS was released.


I guess you could say DAF kind of followed on, with Bond hunting Blowfeld down in the pre-title sequence, while others will say it ignored OHMSS altogether, and took place after YOLT (Bond being in Japan).

From what I'm told, OHMSS was ignored for a long time, but somewhere along the line it picked up a cult following, so the films started to acknowledge the evens of the film. Though I think you will all agree, the pre-titles of FYEO was simply not good enough (but what choice did Eon have, they lost the rights to Blowfeld).


Look at this fan art by Gobi, superb stuff, I would give my right testicle to see this film made.


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I understand McClory now has the rights to Blowfeld, though what about when he passes away?


Anyway, it's all just wishful thinking, and perhaps the series has moved on since then, but the thought of a true follow up to OHMSS is something I often think about.

[Scottlee]

It's far too late to consider a sequal now. Hell, you could only do it in 1971 or it just wouldn't work. I love OHMSS though and I think the Lazenby/Hunt combination for DAF could have produced an absolutely classic follow-up to OHMSS. I think Connery is a fantastic Bond, but I would have swapped his 6th film for one Lazenby sequal.

[DamnCoffee]

Hell I'd love a sequel - but like Scottlee said it is far to late to even consider it, unless OHMSS was remade with Craig, which seems doubtful

[Jericho_One]

Yes, too late. And Kevin McClory "owns" Blofeld.
So...

[Jackanaples]

I agree with the others. It is far too late now. I would have loved if Lazenby and Hunt had stayed for DAF and LALD though. That would have super cool.

For what it's worth, I think we'll be getting a sort-of Blofeld trilogy with the Craig films. Not quite the same admittedly, but the emotional content and intensity should be there.

[JimmyBond]

I think Casino Royale might be the closest we'll ever get to a thematically similar Bond film since OHMSS. Not quite a sequel in the traditional sense I know, but who'd thought they'd ever go back to the themes that OHMSS utilized eh?

[00Twelve]

Unless they remake OHMSS (and if they were to do that, it could not come so close to CR b/c of the similar serious relationship with the girl, so it would not be Craig doing it), there is no way to do a sequel to OHMSS. All we can do is continue to point out that DAF failed on many levels, mostly this one. And that really doesn't make it better, either.

And by the way, EON won the suit laid by McClory, so EON now has all the rights to Bond and Thunderball and Blofeld that McClory had. McClory lost all his rights to everything Bond-related.

[Gobi-1]

Thanks for the mention of my poster. That was Teaser B you posted, here's the superior Teaser A and Teaser C.

The Mourning After - Teaser A
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Teaser A was inspired by one of the GoldenEye teaser posters.

The Mourning After - Teaser C
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Teaser C was inspired by the Die Another Day Teaser B/Final US One Sheet.

[Auric64]

Unless they remake OHMSS (and if they were to do that, it could not come so close to CR b/c of the similar serious relationship with the girl, so it would not be Craig doing it), there is no way to do a sequel to OHMSS. All we can do is continue to point out that DAF failed on many levels, mostly this one. And that really doesn't make it better, either.

And by the way, EON won the suit laid by McClory, so EON now has all the rights to Bond and Thunderball and Blofeld that McClory had. McClory lost all his rights to everything Bond-related.

Very interested in your comment that EON now has the rights to SPECTRE and Blofeld. Can I ask how you know this? Do you have some kind of insider information about EON/McClory? I don`t ask this to be rude, simply just to know.

Can anyone else back up 00Twelve`s statement?

I would have thought, had EON had access to SPECTRE, they might have used it in CR, (or perhaps for Bond 22 and beyond) especially as they are using a similar type organisation in CR.

I`m sure everybody (and that includes general cinema going Bond fans as well) watching CR would instantly remember the SPECTRE name/organisation and having them in CR would have added to the nod the producers have done, which is return Bond back to its 60`s roots in this film.

Best

Andy

[00Twelve]

I might be talking out of my , but I believe that since EON won the rights to Thunderball in either 2000 or 2001 (or whatever year it was), they took the rights to SPECTRE and Blofeld with it. McClory DEFINITELY lost his rights to all elements of the Thunderball story (that's what he gets for pushing it), and I'm assuming, really, that that includes SPECTRE and Blofeld.

[blackjack60]

I doubt we'll ever see a proper follow-up to OHMSS. Our best hope is that, like the Sherlock Holmes series with Jeremy Brett, someone will eventually come along and produce Bond shows for TV that are faithful to the films. And even that isn't likely, since it would cost an arm and a leg to recreate the period ambience. But period costs wouldn't be an issue in animation--if I was an eccentric billionaire I'd hire out an animation studio to create an adaptation of Fleming's YOLT (if I was really rich I'd have them animate all the other books too--the giant squid in Dr.No would work beautifully in cartoon format!).

I know it's too late now, but there was so much to love about OHMSS, especially the cast (George included IMO). I really liked Draco, always wished he could have come back for another Bond movie, for me one of Bonds best alies, only rivaled by Ali Kerim Bey. I also thought that Bunt was a good character, not your typical henchwoman. Though I'm not sure what they would have done with her character had they made a proper sequel, the actress died the same year OHMSS was released.

Draco reappears in a Raymond Benson novel, though you not as you might expect. Bundt reappears in Fleming's YOLT as Blofeld's de facto wife, and does a great deal of hideous verbal cuddling with him.

[Stephen Spotswood]

One of my disappointments in Diamonds Are Forever, besides getting so far from the book was the opening scenes. Bond thinks he just killed Blofied, they guy who killed his wife, but you'd never know it from Connery's stolid expression. It was like Tracy never existed at all.

[ComplimentsOfSharky]

I think an OHMSS sequel with Lazenby as Bond in diamonds would've been neat - and would've been a better representation of Lazenby's talent.

However, I don't really long for it...we got what we got. OHMSS is fantstic and DAF is funny in small doses...I'll take a vengeance-style sequel in Bond 22 and be happy with it.


OH and BTW.....4 days! 4 days!! OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!

[Double-Oh-Zero]

I'd love to see a "true" follow-up to OHMSS as well, but it'll prolly never happen. Which is a shame, because from what I've seen, it seems that Craig would be well-suited to do a very violent, revenge-fueled Bond flick in the same vein as Man on Fire (minus the occasionally nauseating editing trickery).

However, like ComplimentsOfSharky said, he may end up doing one like this anyway, but it'd be that much more interesting if it took place just after the events of OHMSS.

[DaveBond21]

Yes, I would like to see a sequel of sorts, where Bunt and Blofeld are officially killed once and for all, for revenge.

FYEO was the first time that OHMSS was really recognised, although Bond's wife was referred to in TSWLM too. However, the fact that Blofeld/The wheelchair villain had a neckbrace, suggests that it could follow directly from OHMSS.
I like to see it that way...

[FlemingBond]

If you had never seen the Bond movies, FYEO could directly follow OHMSS. In fact that's the order i would show them to people. I hate it that there was never a proper follow up, but it will never happen now.

[Fro]

I really think they'll do an adaption (at least in spirit, and with the "Garden of Death") of the YOLT book for Craig's last bond.

[Rolex]

A proper sequel will never happen unless CR reboot facilitates the remaking of book titles

[Hass]

As far as Bond getting revenge goes, I feel Licence to Kill is the closest thing to a sequel.

Detractors of Licence to Kill often ask whether Bond would really leave MI6 and set out on revenge over the mauling of his friend and the murder of his friend's wife.

But I think Bond's so angry because he's really getting revenge for Tracy. It's why the reference to his marriage is brought up early in the film. Della's death stirs up the anger he has over the death of his own wife.

If you were to ask Michael Wilson I reckon he'd admit that this aspect was on his mind when he wrote the script to Licence to Kill.

Cheers.

[Shaun Forever]

Thats a top post Hass, welcome to the forum

[Gothamite]

FYEO was the first time that OHMSS was really recognised, although Bond's wife was referred to in TSWLM too. However, the fact that Blofeld/The wheelchair villain had a neckbrace, suggests that it could follow directly from OHMSS.
I like to see it that way...

So do I, if I'm in a 'serious' Bond movie mood. I really think they made a right mess of Diamonds Are Forever and it is quite obvious that Connery could care less about what happened to Tracy in the previous film. In spite of that, I wonder if Lazenby had the acting chops to play a vengeful Bond. I'm going to imagine that he did, considering how well he played the dramatic scenes in OHMSS.

[swaz]

I would LOVE a Craig OHMSS sequel...a movie interlaced with sweet, romantic memories. Fueling his rampage of revenge. I also would love to see another partnership of Marc-Ange and Bond. They were quite successful team. I've even casted Marc-Ange Draco...George Lazenby.

[007.5]

"Diamonds are Forever" was really tacky and camp and I always felt that it belittled "OHMSS". It would have been great to see Lazenby as Bond again, tracking down Blofeld in a serious manner, instead of that throwaway movie that was DAF.

[blackjack60]

Bond thinks he just killed Blofied, they guy who killed his wife, but you'd never know it from Connery's stolid expression. It was like Tracy never existed at all.

I'd agree regarding the rest of the film, but disagree about the precredits sequence. The precredits sequence shows a man who's predetermined to hunt down Blofeld to the ends of the Earth, and doesn't care who he smashes along the way. And the particularly sadistic way Bond dispatches of Blofeld--slamming him on the head with a lamp, tying him to the operating table and pushing it into boiling mud--coupled with Connery's vengeful satisfaction in saying "welcome to hell Blofeld" indicates that for Connery's Bond this is something personal. Connery does say the "welcome" line quietly, but with a great deal of satisfaction and relish, and anyway, Bond is hardly the emo type...

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[Willowhugger]

I have a confession to make. I read You Only Live Twice first of the Bond novels (well not really, I had read Casino Royale first) but read it not as a sequel to James Bond the book but as a sequel to On Her Majesty's Secret Service the movie.

I assume Blofeld survived his smokestack drop and just finally got slayed when he had his head cut off.

[00Twelve]

I don't follow...

Anyway, I just realized one way that DAF, even the version that we ended up with, could have been a more worthy sequel to OHMSS. There was one way that the film could have ended up similarly to YOLT, the novel. What if Blofeld had simply been assuming the identity of Willard Whyte to live as a rich, secluded Vegas tycoon...and that was it?

Fleming wrote the last chapter of Blofeld's life to be Blofeld's disgusting "retirement," secluded in a castle in Japan, not trying once again to actively dominate the world (oh wait, that was never his objective...ever) or to hold the world ransom (That's what he was doing...). I would have enjoyed Diamonds Are Forever as a follow-up to OHMSS if Bond had been sent on this pipeline into a diamond smuggling ring, only to find that it led to a reclusive Vegas tycoon, then only to discover that the tycoon was...Ernst Stavro Blofeld! (And that is the big plot secret, the climax) Still would have been a very implausible film, but it would have been quite satisfying to see Bond seething with anger when he came out of that loo and saw Blofeld, wanting desperately to kill him, and after rescuing the real Whyte, made it his personal mission to get back inside that penthouse, just to kill Blofeld with his bare hands. No diamond satellite, no lame oil rig finale.

Sounds neat to me, at least!

[Willowhugger]

I stated that I use the book by Fleming as a sequel to the movies to satisfy my need for a proper end to the Tracy arc.

[JimmyBond]

I stated that I use the book by Fleming as a sequel to the movies to satisfy my need for a proper end to the Tracy arc.

Why? Why mix the films with the novels, they don't go together, nor should they. The cinematic Bond has nothing in common with the Bond of the novels, so it's an odd mix.

[Willowhugger]

Well it works because OHMSS is pretty much identical from page to film.