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[Rich_19]

Im sure i read somewhere on this forum or in the news (though i have learnt not to believe everything i read from the trashy British tabloids) that DC wont be smoking as Bond in CR. However as i was browsing innocently on Youtube, i stumbled across a slide show of Craig as Bond smoking a cigar.
Its a picture of him outside the Casino Royale. Anyone know for sure if he will be smoking in this flick? Or maybe its a pic of him smoking between takes.
Cheers.

http://www.youtube.c...0...ted&search=

[Binyamin]

I have seen this before and as I recall, it was decided here on CBn that Daniel was simply enjoying a cigar between takes. I seem to remember forum members who have read the script saying that he does not smoke a cigar in the film, however I could be wrong.

[Dr. Noah]

I have seen this before and as I recall, it was decided here on CBn that Daniel was simply enjoying a cigar between takes. I seem to remember forum members who have read the script saying that he does not smoke a cigar in the film, however I could be wrong.

Who knows. They're all reading a draft from nine months ago, so it could've easily changed.

[Skudor]

I have seen this before and as I recall, it was decided here on CBn that Daniel was simply enjoying a cigar between takes. I seem to remember forum members who have read the script saying that he does not smoke a cigar in the film, however I could be wrong.

Yeah that fits with my recollection.

[JCRendle]

well - it doesn't say he doesn't smoke, so the prop guy could easily go to Campbell and say "Daniel would look good with a cigar in this scene, what do you think"

[Binyamin]

I'll PM our resident Extra and see if he can report anything

Edit:

Just got a PM back, he reports that he did not see any of the principal actors smoking but also says that he did not witness the main gambling scene. So it is possible that Bond will be smoking but it seems highly unlikely based on what we know.

Thanks to erniecureo *tips hat*

Edited by Binyamin, 29 August 2006 - 12:10 AM.

[Vauxhall]

Back around the time that the photo was published, it was found that it was not a cigar but rather...

Spoiler

a stick that Bond had to breathe in when trying to recover after being poisoned in the casino

I know it does seem to resemble a cigar, but I've been assured that it is not.

[Sn007py]

In the photo that I have seen he is getting out of the Aston Martin and smokes the cigar. It is a scene for sure!

[Binyamin]

Back around the time that the photo was published, it was found that it was not a cigar but rather...

Are you being serious Vauxhall? If so do you have a source for that?

[Vauxhall]

I remember finding evidence that it wasn't a cigar at the time. I'll have a look through a few things and try and find it again

In the mean time, everyone can feel free to discuss whether or not Bond should smoke in theory!!

Edit
I found my post from a few months ago. I first of all suggested that it wasn't a cigar, and my theory was shot down. There was then a report from someone who had visited the set, and a line in that raised my interest. Here's the post I made at the time:

Interesting that Heiko Lorson's report of filming in Karlovy Vary notes that in one scene Bond is "panting all the time, puts a stick into his mouth, spits out something..."

I wonder if that stick he puts into his mouth may be what was perceived by some to be the cigar in that photo from the set. If that was the case, it would put an end to the debate over whether Campbell was lying about smoking featuring in the movie!

I suppose it's not really evidence that he doesn't smoke a cigar, but if he does smoke in the film, I'll be prepared to admit my mistake!

Edited by Vauxhall, 29 August 2006 - 12:30 AM.

[Binyamin]

Do we have any photographic reconnaissance of the scene?

[Vauxhall]

Do we have any photographic reconnaissance of the scene?

To my knowledge, sadly we only have that one photo of Craig with the mysterious object in his mouth. I guess it will be a matter of opinion until the movie is released.

[Binyamin]

Here is the photograph in question:



Now looking at this image, it certainly looks like a cigar. Craig does not look like he is recovering from being poisoned, but seems to be stepping out of the Aston Martin looking cool and enjoying a Churchill.

Or I could be seeing things.

Strangely, I swear I've seen images of what I thought was Craig as Bond holding a cigar, but this is not it. Let me see if I can dig around and find them back.

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

I remember finding evidence that it wasn't a cigar at the time. I'll have a look through a few things and try and find it again

In the mean time, everyone can feel free to discuss whether or not Bond should smoke in theory!!

Edit
I found my post from a few months ago. I first of all suggested that it wasn't a cigar, and my theory was shot down. There was then a report from someone who had visited the set, and a line in that raised my interest. Here's the post I made at the time:

Interesting that Heiko Lorson's report of filming in Karlovy Vary notes that in one scene Bond is "panting all the time, puts a stick into his mouth, spits out something..."

I wonder if that stick he puts into his mouth may be what was perceived by some to be the cigar in that photo from the set. If that was the case, it would put an end to the debate over whether Campbell was lying about smoking featuring in the movie!

I suppose it's not really evidence that he doesn't smoke a cigar, but if he does smoke in the film, I'll be prepared to admit my mistake!

Well this what I think.

Spoiler

The stick that Heiko mentioned is probably a Combipen which looks little like a cigar. More like a syrige and makes sense that he would use his mouth to remove the cap.

Edited by Agent Spriggan Ominae, 29 August 2006 - 12:51 AM.

[JCRendle]

That thing he spits out - could it be the cigar end? I know cigar smokers do that - but looking at the pic, the end isn't red or smoldering, or smoking for that matter.

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

That thing he spits out - could it be the cigar end? I know cigar smokers do that - but looking at the pic, the end isn't red or smoldering, or smoking for that matter.

"panting all the time, puts a stick into his mouth, spits out something..."

Panting all the time? This must be the nicotine fiend that Fleming created!

[bernsmartin007]

It's a cigar, and they take a long time to smoke.



Why would he light a large cigar between takes whilst still in full costume etc? Also, according to the experts at DedicatedtoDaniel he gave up smoking not long before filming Casino Royale began probably to get into shape, so maybe it's for that reason (you don't inhale cigars). However, from the circumstances, being in full costume during filming I think it's for the film.

Check out the guards in the background in the previous shot, if they were not filming or only on a very brief wait between takes those guys wouldn't be standing there in costume as if set up for a shot. Daniel wouldn't light a large (most likely Havana) cigar during filming, they need attention and nursing to enjoy and burn for a very long time (over 60 minutes for one of that size).

Edited by bernsmartin007, 29 August 2006 - 01:45 AM.

[Binyamin]

That thing he spits out - could it be the cigar end? I know cigar smokers do that - but looking at the pic, the end isn't red or smoldering, or smoking for that matter.

There is no way that James Bond, thug in a suit though he may be, would bite the end off a fine cigar. He would use a proper cutter, or a punch.

And having enjoyed one too many myself, a fine cigar really does not smoke or smolder that much-- I'm still 99% sure that the image is Craig with a cigar. Nothing else makes sense.

EDIT:

Okay, make that 99.9% sure. Thanks bernsmartin007

Edited by Binyamin, 29 August 2006 - 01:52 AM.

[Skudor]

All will be revealed in mid November. At this moment I don't really know what to believe... that certainly looks like Craig exhaling smoke... but is it on film? Is it even real and not a doctored pic?

[bernsmartin007]

All will be revealed in mid November. At this moment I don't really know what to believe... that certainly looks like Craig exhaling smoke... but is it on film? Is it even real and not a doctored pic?

It's a screen shot from the Insider behind the scenes footage taken by Wendy at DedicatedtoDaniel. It's certainly not doctored and it definately is smoke. Plus I have spent enough time around cigars to know one when I see one, that's a cigar not a brown medicine stick (??). The size, colour shade and grey ash on the foot is a bit of a give-away, and the smoke is again more telling.

Wendy saw the full footage on TV and she labelled the pictures on her site "Daniel Craig smoking a cigar".

Edited by bernsmartin007, 29 August 2006 - 02:05 AM.

[Skudor]

All will be revealed in mid November. At this moment I don't really know what to believe... that certainly looks like Craig exhaling smoke... but is it on film? Is it even real and not a doctored pic?

It's a screen shot from the Insider behind the scenes footage taken by Wendy at DedicatedtoDaniel. It's certainly not doctored and it definately is smoke. Plus I have spent enough time around cigars to know one when I see one, that's a cigar not a brown medicine stick (??).

Wendy saw the full footage on TV and she labelled the pictures on her site "Daniel Craig smoking a cigar".

It certainly looks like it.

[bernsmartin007]

I'd bet my balls that it's a cigar, most likely a Havana. Whether it will be on film is less certain but it seems pretty likely to me given the fact everyone in full costume and set up for a shot in that first pic. You don't smoke fine cigars on the quick.

[Binyamin]

I've gone back to try to find the other pictures of Craig's Bond smoking a cigar. They seem to have disappeared-- but I recall that they were paparazzi shots taken in Venice. That was back in June. I specifically noticed the cigar in Daniel's hand and wrote this:

Speaking of which.... did you guys catch the photo of Craig smoking a cigar on set? Wonder if those were part of his contract....

Also note this photoshoot from Esquire magazine:

Dedicated to Daniel

Is he again holding a cigar?

Obviously he's not playing Bond in this last picture, but it does seem that Craig enjoys a cigar and it would not be too surprising to see his 007 lighting up a fine Cuban in November.

I for one would be all for it.

[jaguar007]

I've gone back to try to find the other pictures of Craig's Bond smoking a cigar. They seem to have disappeared-- but I recall that they were paparazzi shots taken in Venice. That was back in June. I specifically noticed the cigar in Daniel's hand and wrote this:

Speaking of which.... did you guys catch the photo of Craig smoking a cigar on set? Wonder if those were part of his contract....

Also note this photoshoot from Esquire magazine:

Dedicated to Daniel

Is he again holding a cigar?

Obviously he's not playing Bond in this last picture, but it does seem that Craig enjoys a cigar and it would not be too surprising to see his 007 lighting up a fine Cuban in November.

I for one would be all for it.

I think he is probably smoking between takes. As fast as some takes are when making a movie, you can certainly light a cigar, put it down when they are filming a shot and pick it up between takes. Both Roger and Pierce were known to smoke cigars on the set.

[Tuxedo]

I don

[sirmilesmeservy]

If Tom the Cat (of Tom and Jerry) can't smoke on screen any more (maybe he can between takes!) How does that impact our own beloved JB in the overly Politically Correct world where nobody can make their own mind up anymore (rant rant)

[bernsmartin007]

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I don

Edited by bernsmartin007, 29 August 2006 - 10:12 AM.

[JCRendle]

Where abouts are you from? I don't think your American, because I though Havanas were illegal over there

[Binyamin]

So is speeding.

[Daniel Craig the cool 007]

Here is the photograph in question:



Now looking at this image, it certainly looks like a cigar. Craig does not look like he is recovering from being poisoned, but seems to be stepping out of the Aston Martin looking cool and enjoying a Churchill.

Or I could be seeing things.

Strangely, I swear I've seen images of what I thought was Craig as Bond holding a cigar, but this is not it. Let me see if I can dig around and find them back.

Looks great indeed...Would have preferred Daniel smoking a cigarette but cant have everything (Eon already said that bond woldnt smoke due to a pg13 rating)..but i guess that didnt count the cigar coz how many teens can buy and smoke cigars.It would also seem plausible and logic that Bond would and could smoke a cigar since people round the green table in a casino smoke cigars....or maybe he smokes that cigar as he wants to appear very jet-set as part of his cover as a british business man