EA's Casino Royale Cancelled
#31
Posted 08 April 2006 - 06:37 AM
I look forward to future Bond games. EON and From Russia With Love were worthy entries in the video game arena, so I hope the next Bond game (if there is one) is on par with those.
Craig does deserve his own game.
#32
Posted 08 April 2006 - 09:23 AM
Maybe with the cancelation that can open the door for other Bond's(Moore, Lazenby, Dalton) to return for other "era" based games! I mean wouldn't it be cool if they had Lazenby return for a sequel to OHMSS! They could show Bond killing the rest of SPECTRE while searching for Blofeld, the last person Bond would kill would be Irma Bunt...the game could end right as DAF begins(it would sort of explain Bond's relaxed behavior in the beginning!) Oh how one can imagine! C'mon you know Lazenby would be in for it, and they could probably get him on the cheap too!
...oh yeah yeah yeah, sorry.... It's a pity about the CR game being canceled! Real bummer.
Fantastic idea BlackFelix!I'd rather play that or a Roger Moore game (preferably of The Spy Who Loved Me but with May Day, The Acrostar Jet, crocodiles etc) than a game based on Casino Royale
For the record I thought Agent Under Fire was quite good, but I lost interest in most games since then. EA just really need to learn from their mistakes and pull their socks up if they want to match Goldeneye
#33
Posted 08 April 2006 - 09:33 AM
So don't feel bummed, there are other games to play, Did I forget to mention that a new Hitman game is soon to be released?
Don't tell me how to feel. I am bummed, because I wanted to play a Bond game, specifically a Bond game starring Daniel Craig that was an adaption of Casino Royale. If you didnt want to that's fine. But don't tell me how to feel.
Dude, chill. Take a pill or something "herbal". This isn't the end of the world. If you want a good movie game go get Scarface and The Godfather.
This is a blessing in dusguise. Hopefully EA will pass on the rights (even if they own it until 2010) to a better developer like Edios or Interactive Multimedia. Count your blessings, anyone play the Hulk game from 2003? You could have been handed something like that for Royale.
Or if you're missing a good spy game I suggest No One Lives Forever 1 and 2 along with Cold Winter.
#34
Posted 08 April 2006 - 09:52 AM
#35
Posted 08 April 2006 - 11:02 AM
Realistically I don't think we will see a Bond game this year. Early next year perhaps. Seems a bit to late to work on anything fresh to get released in Novemeber/Decemeber 2006
#36
Posted 08 April 2006 - 11:42 AM
DAD-sque EoN video game, and that EA is unable to do it justice without outraging fans like they did to many with FRWL. After FRWL's poor performance however I doubt we'll see anymore retro games, at least retro film based games (orginal retro games anybody?)
Maybe generic Bond will return for a song song (I quite liked him actually, he should've stayed in NF, Brosnan looked low-quality and out of place in it)
#37
Posted 08 April 2006 - 12:40 PM
As To the idea of a Roger Moore game, sure he was a fun Bond, but what would you do? Stroll around, and lift an eyebrow?
#38
Posted 08 April 2006 - 03:30 PM
- Chris
#39
Posted 08 April 2006 - 09:00 PM
As To the idea of a Roger Moore game, sure he was a fun Bond, but what would you do? Stroll around, and lift an eyebrow?
http://debrief.comma...ndpost&p=440598
#40
Posted 08 April 2006 - 09:47 PM
#41
Posted 09 April 2006 - 01:48 AM
#42
Posted 09 April 2006 - 02:11 AM
I read today at mi6.co.uk. That Daniel may not be the front man, for Omega next year. And now this, what is going on?
Sadly, I think that it's just a sign of things to come. I just don't see Casino Royale or Daniel Craig being that popular outside of the hard-core Bond fan group. For the majority of those who play the Bond videogames, this is probably good news, and I honestly don't think that the public would be swayed very much to buy the Omega watches with Daniel Craig as the spokesperson. Hopefully this is not a sign of things to come, but I think that we may be seeing more companies that are generally supporting the Bond franchise begin to pull away from it because of a lack of support by the general public for Daniel Craig.
#43
Posted 09 April 2006 - 02:16 AM
I read today at mi6.co.uk. That Daniel may not be the front man, for Omega next year. And now this, what is going on?
Sadly, I think that it's just a sign of things to come. I just don't see Casino Royale or Daniel Craig being that popular outside of the hard-core Bond fan group. For the majority of those who play the Bond videogames, this is probably good news, and I honestly don't think that the public would be swayed very much to buy the Omega watches with Daniel Craig as the spokesperson. Hopefully this is not a sign of things to come, but I think that we may be seeing more companies that are generally supporting the Bond franchise begin to pull away from it because of a lack of support by the general public for Daniel Craig.
I really hope you are wrong. But, time will tell.
#44
Posted 09 April 2006 - 02:17 AM
I read today at mi6.co.uk. That Daniel may not be the front man, for Omega next year. And now this, what is going on?
Sadly, I think that it's just a sign of things to come. I just don't see Casino Royale or Daniel Craig being that popular outside of the hard-core Bond fan group. For the majority of those who play the Bond videogames, this is probably good news, and I honestly don't think that the public would be swayed very much to buy the Omega watches with Daniel Craig as the spokesperson. Hopefully this is not a sign of things to come, but I think that we may be seeing more companies that are generally supporting the Bond franchise begin to pull away from it because of a lack of support by the general public for Daniel Craig.
I really hope you are wrong. But, time will tell.
I hope so too.
#45
Posted 09 April 2006 - 02:45 AM
I was at a panel today of some video game writers and producers and they said for a movie-based game releasing it "day and date" with the film is now considered critical. This is because the video game needs to feed from the advertising of the movie. He said even a week delay makes a massive difference in the sales. So there's your answer.What disappointing news. They can't make the November release date and so shelve the game completely? That seems rather like a cop-out to me. Rare's original GoldenEye was released two years after the movie itself (the same year as Tomorrow Never Dies!). And for a studio as large as EA, it should be possible to put together at least an acceptable product. Although it's difficult to expect a brilliant product from them, I still looked forward to seeing a game adaptation. (In my view, an opportunity was lost with Die Another Day as well.)
#46
Posted 09 April 2006 - 02:55 AM
#47
Posted 09 April 2006 - 03:13 AM
Wait a minute....Omega is changing its marketing strategy and is not using any celebrities anymore as front people (including Pierce Brosnan). They say they want to get away from "the cult of celebrity." Nowhere in the original source article (from Business Standard) does it even mention Daniel Craig. Seems unfair to connect him to this story.Sadly, I think that it's just a sign of things to come. I just don't see Casino Royale or Daniel Craig being that popular outside of the hard-core Bond fan group. For the majority of those who play the Bond videogames, this is probably good news, and I honestly don't think that the public would be swayed very much to buy the Omega watches with Daniel Craig as the spokesperson. Hopefully this is not a sign of things to come, but I think that we may be seeing more companies that are generally supporting the Bond franchise begin to pull away from it because of a lack of support by the general public for Daniel Craig.
I read today at mi6.co.uk. That Daniel may not be the front man, for Omega next year. And now this, what is going on?
Yeah, I don't see this as having anything to do with Daniel Craig whatsoever. I see it as both Eon and EA not wanting to put out some crappy Catwoman-like game just to make day and date. After GERA and FRWL, the next game really needs to be a winner.Thank, zen. It is good to know, it's not all about Craig.
#48
Posted 09 April 2006 - 03:17 AM
#49
Posted 09 April 2006 - 03:18 AM
#50
Posted 09 April 2006 - 03:28 AM
No, no, no...I wasn't talking about you. You didn't connect this story to Daniel Craig. Maybe this "news" belongs in the "What are you blaming Daniel Craig for today?" thread. Omega changes their marketing strategy...and it's all Daniel Craig's fault!Zen, I hope you don't think I'm bashing Craig. I just felt it was a odd time to move away from "the cult of celebrity." You see I can't take any thing on face any more.
#51
Posted 09 April 2006 - 03:33 AM
#52
Posted 09 April 2006 - 07:08 PM
So don't feel bummed, there are other games to play, Did I forget to mention that a new Hitman game is soon to be released?
Don't tell me how to feel. I am bummed, because I wanted to play a Bond game, specifically a Bond game starring Daniel Craig that was an adaption of Casino Royale. If you didnt want to that's fine. But don't tell me how to feel.
Dude, chill. Take a pill or something "herbal". This isn't the end of the world. If you want a good movie game go get Scarface and The Godfather.
This is a blessing in dusguise. Hopefully EA will pass on the rights (even if they own it until 2010) to a better developer like Edios or Interactive Multimedia. Count your blessings, anyone play the Hulk game from 2003? You could have been handed something like that for Royale.
Or if you're missing a good spy game I suggest No One Lives Forever 1 and 2 along with Cold Winter.
You're missing the point completely. I was looking forward to playing a James Bond game based on Casino Royale and starring Daniel Craig.
#53
Posted 09 April 2006 - 10:36 PM
Stax: "A source told me, however, that it's because the story of CR (which is basically one long poker game and a love story) was not conducive to a video game."
Then he goes on about how EA might try something else to tie-in.
#54
Posted 10 April 2006 - 02:29 AM
#55
Posted 10 April 2006 - 04:09 AM
Free Radical, who as far as I know has only ever made the excellent TimeSplitters series, is made up of former Rare employees. You know, the Rare that made Goldeneye? Why not let them make a new Bond FPS?
Or, heck, what about Criterion? EA owns them, too, and we know they can handle both shooters (go play Black) AND intense car chases (as they're the company behind the stupendous Burnout series).
I'm alright with EA hanging onto the licence just so long as they let one of their other studios take a crack at the game.
#56
Posted 10 April 2006 - 04:39 AM
They also might be reavaluating the series after frwl (which i thought was a bold move from the spineless EA, but they probably saw it as a blunder with sales and scores being pretty low)
Combined with the possible Omega news, its a bit concerning. Hopefull these two don't start a trend.
#57
Posted 10 April 2006 - 06:02 AM
First off you don't even know what you're talking about. Everything or Nothing and From Russia with Love, while very similar in style and play are two completely different engines. In fact, Everything or Nothing was actually the same engine used for Agent Under Fire. From Russia with Love on the other hand is a brand new engine. So your statement about EA is pretty absurd.
http://blogs.ign.com/Stax/
Stax: "A source told me, however, that it's because the story of CR (which is basically one long poker game and a love story) was not conducive to a video game."
Then he goes on about how EA might try something else to tie-in.
Not conductive to a video game? Bull! It's not conductive to EA's video game, the generic third person shooter engine they have. Far be it for them to create something original they just wanted to take the movie and integrate it into their EON engine.
Second, 'conducive'. This sounds about right to me. The majority of the film, as Stax says, is a love story and a poker game. To integrate an entire video game based around this would be pretty tough to pull off especially with the hard time contraints that they already have. Also "conducive" usually means "a factor", not "the factor" (i.e., there were most likely other issues).
Third, Stax did go on to speculate that EA might try something else to tie-in to the film. But this is speculation. We'll probably find out one way or other at E3.
#58
Posted 10 April 2006 - 06:19 AM
Third, Stax did go on to speculate that EA might try something else to tie-in to the film. But this is speculation. We'll probably find out one way or other at E3.
The only way I can see for them to make a Bond game that ties in to CR without actually being a game adaptation of CR is to make a Bond gambling game, which I guess they could call 'Casino Royale' if they wanted to, and you could play hold 'em against Le Chiffre, as well as all the other Bond gambling games - baccarat, craps, blackjack, etc. They could use all the different casinos from the movies, like DN, TB, OHMSS, DAF, TWMTGG (though Bond doesn't play, he is in a Macau casino), FYEO, LTK, GE, TWINE, and of course CR. We've already had a 007-themed racing game, so why not a Bond casino game?
#59
Posted 10 April 2006 - 12:21 PM
THIS IS THE BEST NEWS OF ALL TIME!
Hopefully, EA will go bust, or just rot in hell alongside other failed companies.
NO MORE EA BOND GAMES, I say. We'll be happy, too.
#60
Posted 10 April 2006 - 07:20 PM
Anyone think this might be because they think CR the movie might flop?
I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they did this because the public hasn't accepted Craig in the role.
I read today at mi6.co.uk. That Daniel may not be the front man, for Omega next year. And now this, what is going on?