Is there anything you would like to get out of a reboot?
#1
Posted 02 March 2006 - 09:40 PM
Personally, I want a Bond who isn
#2
Posted 02 March 2006 - 09:48 PM
#3
Posted 02 March 2006 - 09:53 PM
#4
Posted 02 March 2006 - 09:59 PM
I`d just like them (the producers) to get out of the idea of doing a reboot.
Second.
#5
Posted 02 March 2006 - 10:08 PM
By the way, those complaining about the reboot can find another thread please, there are plenty.
#6
Posted 02 March 2006 - 10:25 PM
Personally, I want a Bond who isn
#7
Posted 02 March 2006 - 10:30 PM
#8
Posted 02 March 2006 - 10:42 PM
I was about to post the same EXACT post. Good thing I glanced at the replies first. Great minds think alike.I`d just like them (the producers) to get out of the idea of doing a reboot.
#9
Posted 02 March 2006 - 10:57 PM
Can't believe I forgot this one. Thanks for reminding me.Dare I say it but a return to Bonds more non-PC, chauvanistic roots. Although I know that he won't be smoking in this one, which is a shame.
I too would like to see Bond light up occasionally. What's more, he should go back to the pre-Dalton/Brosnan era practice of almost never ordering a "vodka martini, shaken, not stirred" (I think this was also the case in DAD). Have his enemies offer him a "medium-dry vodka martini" or thereabouts if we want to keep the tradition somewhat alive, while also bringing back one of the better old ones. Some exotic, regional drinks would be another plus.
And yes, dropping the sensitive, TWINEy nonsense is a must. Maybe we'll even hit the jackpot and see Craig slap a woman or two...
#10
Posted 02 March 2006 - 10:59 PM
I could stomach this idea of an agent's career start and even Daniel Craig playing him if it were a different 00 agent. Something like "Pete Crown 009." He could work under the same 'M' 007 works for. I would even concede the use of the Casino Royale story line for it. Just don't call him "James Bond 007!" PLEASE!! I promise I would even go watch it. EON can run two '00' franchises this way. And this way Craig's slobbering fans are happy and the Bond aura and spirit is not raped.
It may not be too late yet. Let's start sending e-mails to EON!
#11
Posted 02 March 2006 - 11:03 PM
I was about to post the same EXACT post. Good thing I glanced at the replies first. Great minds think alike.
I`d just like them (the producers) to get out of the idea of doing a reboot.
Actually, great minds think different. That’s what makes them great. And please read the part of my original post that is in parenthesis. Please.
#12
Posted 02 March 2006 - 11:17 PM
#13
Posted 02 March 2006 - 11:19 PM
#14
Posted 02 March 2006 - 11:20 PM
#15
Posted 02 March 2006 - 11:28 PM
I've been hoping for decades now...
#16
Posted 02 March 2006 - 11:34 PM
#17
Posted 02 March 2006 - 11:46 PM
- An explanation of how Bond goes from being blonde to sporting the dark-haired "traditional Bond look". It can be a disguise he adopts for the Le Chiffre mission (because as a regular in the world's top casinos, he stands less chance of being recognised and having his cover blown if he goes in with a slightly different look), which he ends up keeping for subsequent missions (films).
- An explanation of why he wants to be a Double-O agent for the British secret service in the first place. Is he super-patriotic? Does he want to go around getting mediaeval on people? Is he in it for the sex, travel, generous expenses or whatever? Granted, this is probably less likely to be explained than anything else (heck, even my "why he was originally blonde but changed his look" idea seems more likely to be explored in the film, and that ain't likely at all), but it might be interesting.
- To see Bond behave like a right bastard/idiot for at least some of the film (not all of it, obviously).
#18
Posted 02 March 2006 - 11:54 PM
#19
Posted 03 March 2006 - 12:05 AM
Okay. I'm a big fan of Bond. Have seen all the actors on the big screen, and admire them all for making me believe they're James Bond.
Enter Daniel Craig. Not the usual visual expectations that you expect with James Bond, and although I will take Sean, Roger, George, Tim and Pierce to the grave (that's if we all die at the same time, and have the same plot ), it's time to move on from them. Would we really want another actor who would be impersonating the previous actors, or do we want an actor who is not what we're expecting, but has the chops (cheaper at Wal*Mart) to be able to walk out of the Ian Fleming novels and smack you in the mouth.
Dalton could act on a wide scale. He went fairly deep. He believed in what he was doing, and in return, made us believe that he was really doing what he was doing.
Daniel Craig WAS NOT my first choice of Bond. But, as I want tension, realism, hardness, coolness, an honest approach to the part and authenticity, I think EON's casting of Daniel Craig was the best decision it's made in many years.
There's no way that Casino Royale's gonna be a pile of doggy-do's. Just look at the locals, the chicks, the supporting actors.
Casino Royale the novel is basically one boring peace of crap. I found it a real bore. Even the first page of Live And Let Die is more entertaining.
EON has brought James Bond to the screen. A very ardent task that they've been doing so well since 1962.
All you Craig "Nay Sayers" are "cutting off yer nose to spite yer face!".
Daniel IS 'The Manual'. He's going to re-write the history book. Okay. He doesn't look like a male model. But we men want the chicks, don't we?.
If Casino Royale is a load of crepe, I'm going to eat you shorts Evan, my friend. Maybe you ought to wash them just in case. :roflmao:
All the best,
Cheers,
Steven Saltzman
#20
Posted 03 March 2006 - 12:35 AM
(Honestly, I was never a huge Q fan, and actually prefer him in the early films where he's just a "guy who makes info dump interesting", as opposed to "comedy" Q of later films)
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#21
Posted 03 March 2006 - 12:59 AM
#22
Posted 03 March 2006 - 01:11 AM
I have the utmost respect for you, Loomis, but I think you entertain some downright awful ideas. I think your taste for "fast food" filmmaking often deludes you.I'd like to get the following out of a reboot:
- An explanation of how Bond goes from being blonde to sporting the dark-haired "traditional Bond look". It can be a disguise he adopts for the Le Chiffre mission (because as a regular in the world's top casinos, he stands less chance of being recognised and having his cover blown if he goes in with a slightly different look), which he ends up keeping for subsequent missions (films).
#23
Posted 03 March 2006 - 04:21 AM
From this restart on I want no one to ever recognise James Bond again unless they are in the business and have a damned good reason to know.
Does this mean he should no longer openly tell people who he is as soon as they meet?
#24
Posted 03 March 2006 - 05:14 AM
#25
Posted 03 March 2006 - 08:17 AM
Great minds can actually read the original post.
Ohhh, get her.
#26
Posted 03 March 2006 - 09:50 AM
I am all for having the thinking mans Bond girls, but everyone now seems to be billed as being 'Bonds equal'.
On saying that, no more Stacy Suttons please!
#27
Posted 03 March 2006 - 09:54 AM
#28
Posted 03 March 2006 - 09:57 AM
I totally realise what I am saying here - 'it is the formula that is half the appeal'. But if they have removed Brosnan to go down a not altogether obvious casting route, then remove the crap lines, the Q scene and all the other strait jacket elements that Brosnan (and us) was (were) complaining about and just try to make a good series of films from a good story and good script.
Formulas and knowing winks really should be a thing of the past. The risk being that some films may succeed and others may be less successful. But the canon will be all the richer for it.
#29
Posted 03 March 2006 - 01:16 PM
No more corny cheesy sexual innuendo "jokes" that make the whole theatre groan. Rog could get away with them in the 70s, no one else can or should even try (except maybe if they cast Hugh Grant)
More good, honest punch ups. Think FRWL.
When wearing a suit, which Bond does not need to do on the beach/in the jungle/skiing etc - please make it Savile Row and not Brioni.
Some form of continuing story - cf SPECTRE, Blofeld etc.
#30
Posted 03 March 2006 - 02:24 PM
I have the utmost respect for you, Loomis, but I think you entertain some downright awful ideas. I think your taste for "fast food" filmmaking often deludes you.
I'd like to get the following out of a reboot:
- An explanation of how Bond goes from being blonde to sporting the dark-haired "traditional Bond look". It can be a disguise he adopts for the Le Chiffre mission (because as a regular in the world's top casinos, he stands less chance of being recognised and having his cover blown if he goes in with a slightly different look), which he ends up keeping for subsequent missions (films).
LOL! Reminds me of what some of my friends have said to me on occasion: you have truly amazing film knowledge, but absolutely terrible taste!
Quite simply, a total removal from the need, desire, thoughts, requirements of anything and everything formulaic.
Agreed. That said, though, I want at least a bit of The James Bond Theme - as much as is to be heard in GOLDENEYE, or less (and less is more, of course, especially after the way Arnold's beaten it to death over the last few films), but it's gotta make an appearance.
Also the gunbarrel - I'd be fine with it at the start or end of the pre-credits sequence, or, as usual, at the very beginning of the film. As long as it's there.
Apart from those two things, to hell with formula.