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#1 Qwerty

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Posted 23 May 2005 - 02:14 AM

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Views on 'A View To A Kill'
20 years since the premiere of the 14th James Bond film



#2 Tarl_Cabot

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Posted 23 May 2005 - 02:26 AM

20 years later we find ourselves in the same predicament: A tired series bereft of energy and creativity, an aging on his way out star and uncertainty...I hope a Dalton type star and TLD type film is in store for us.

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Posted 23 May 2005 - 02:34 AM

20 years later we find ourselves in the same predicament: A tired series bereft of energy and creativity, an aging on his way out star and uncertainty...I hope a Dalton type star and TLD type film is in store for us.

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Agreed, Tarl_Cabot though I do like the first 90 minutes of Die Another Day more than many on this forum and my initially negative views on A View To A Kill have softened somewhat though I still think it's the weakest Roger Moore Bond. I hope Casino Royale turns out to be for the 2000s what The Living Daylights was for the 1980s.

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Posted 23 May 2005 - 03:05 AM

I can't believe 20 years have passed since I saw AVTAK opening day at the Loews Astor Plaza in Times Square. Boy, how time flies! I still enjoy the film as much as I did back then.

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Posted 23 May 2005 - 08:03 AM

20 years later we find ourselves in the same predicament: A tired series bereft of energy and creativity, an aging on his way out star and uncertainty...I hope a Dalton type star and TLD type film is in store for us.

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Agreed, Tarl_Cabot though I do like the first 90 minutes of Die Another Day more than many on this forum and my initially negative views on A View To A Kill have softened somewhat though I still think it's the weakest Roger Moore Bond. I hope Casino Royale turns out to be for the 2000s what The Living Daylights was for the 1980s.

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I'll up the ante, I hope Casino Royale is to 2006 what Goldfinger was to 1964!

Great article... can't believe it's been 20 years. This may well be the first Bond I saw in the cinema, although the first I remember is Moonraker (a matine).

#6 Qwerty

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Posted 23 May 2005 - 11:10 AM

It'd be fantastic if Casino Royale was another The Living Daylights. Something new with a new Bond. :)

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Posted 23 May 2005 - 11:34 AM

Here's to the most underrated Bond film of them all!

A fine film that's not without its flaws, but deserves much more credit than people give it.

It has some of the best action sequences in the whole series and for that, I rank it highly, but it also proves to be two hours of good fun.

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Posted 23 May 2005 - 04:28 PM

Has it really been 20 years? My goodness.

I like AVTAK. Maybe it's not the best Bond, but it has some good moments, it's Roger, and I have fond memories connected to this film and that time in my life. I even went to the AVTAK world premiere in San Francisco. That was a great evening for a young Bond fan.

Happy 20th, AVTAK. :)

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Posted 23 May 2005 - 04:41 PM

Maybe it's not the best Bond

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No, nowhere near the best, but nothing remotely like the worst, either. Not really all that much wrong with it, IMO, and, yes, it is great fun. The last of the good old-fashioned "fun" Bond films, actually. :)

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Posted 23 May 2005 - 04:46 PM

Definately up there in my top 5 of Bond movies. I love AVTAK!

#11 Loomis

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Posted 23 May 2005 - 04:56 PM

The last of the good old-fashioned "fun" Bond films, actually. :)

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Just to expand on that on a little, a strong streak of miserablism entered the series with the Dalton era and never really went away. A VIEW TO A KILL was the last film in which we had a Bond not tormented by "his demons" and/or embarking on a "personal" mission. I really wish we could once again see a Bond flick in the MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN/SPY WHO LOVED ME/MOONRAKER/OCTOPUSSY/AVTAK vein, but I somehow doubt we ever will.

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Posted 23 May 2005 - 05:21 PM

The last of the good old-fashioned "fun" Bond films, actually. :)

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Just to expand on that on a little, a strong streak of miserablism entered the series with the Dalton era and never really went away. A VIEW TO A KILL was the last film in which we had a Bond not tormented by "his demons" and/or embarking on a "personal" mission. I really wish we could once again see a Bond flick in the MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN/SPY WHO LOVED ME/MOONRAKER/OCTOPUSSY/AVTAK vein, but I somehow doubt we ever will.

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Precisely why I favor Gerard Butler. He can do "fun" quite well. And he could also be "Bourne-like" (i.e., straight-faced :)-kicking). Which is why I'm surprised you're so down on him, Loom.

#13 Loomis

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Posted 23 May 2005 - 05:28 PM

The last of the good old-fashioned "fun" Bond films, actually. :)

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Just to expand on that on a little, a strong streak of miserablism entered the series with the Dalton era and never really went away. A VIEW TO A KILL was the last film in which we had a Bond not tormented by "his demons" and/or embarking on a "personal" mission. I really wish we could once again see a Bond flick in the MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN/SPY WHO LOVED ME/MOONRAKER/OCTOPUSSY/AVTAK vein, but I somehow doubt we ever will.

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Precisely why I favor Gerard Butler. He can do "fun" quite well. And he could also be "Bourne-like" (i.e., straight-faced :)-kicking). Which is why I'm surprised you're so down on him, Loom.

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Yeah, I guess it seems a bit contradictory: I champion Owen and Craig while calling for lighthearted, MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN-type films. :) As for Butler, I don't think I've seen anything of his apart from the Lara Croft movie. I thought he was quite good in that and definitely had Bond potential, but somehow I don't see him as either a brave or an exciting choice. He'd "do", I guess, but I just can't get enthusiastic about the idea of him as 007 (I feel the same about the likes of Gruffudd and McMahon). Maybe I should check out more of his work.

#14 Qwerty

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Posted 23 May 2005 - 07:06 PM

Fun because it is Bond, but my least favorite of the series.

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Posted 23 May 2005 - 07:12 PM

VTAK is right up there with MWTGG as my top guilty pleasures of the series.

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Posted 23 May 2005 - 07:55 PM

I fondly remember this time 20 years ago - AVTAK premiered and a week later to the day I would graduate from high school. It was this day back then that I drove by the Regent Theater, where the film was to be showingm to see if they had the poster up yet and it was the poster with Moore and Grace Jones back-to-back.

The one big thing I remember early on in the film was it was in the main auditorium of an old theater where they had recently added a second auditorium upstairs. When California Girls started playing, I wondered if there was a sound problem with the other film playing and it got mixed in with the AVTAK soundtrack, and it took a few minutes to realize it was actually part of the AVTAK soundtrack.

AVTAK still remains near the bottom of my list, but the enthusiasm so many people here show for it kind of rubs off on me a bit and I give it a little more slack.

#17 hrabb04

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Posted 23 May 2005 - 11:16 PM

Tonight's movie...A View to a Kill...brought to you by the makers of Depends underwear.

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Posted 24 May 2005 - 12:18 AM

Great fun. Can't believe there hasn't been a Bond film that was pure, 100 per cent fun in 20 years.

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Posted 24 May 2005 - 01:01 AM

Tonight's movie...A View to a Kill...brought to you by the makers of Depends underwear.

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That was unnecessary.

#20 Mr. Somerset

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Posted 24 May 2005 - 01:07 AM

I recall seeing AVTAK at my local shopping mall cinema at the age of 10. The poster outside was the one sheet of Moore and Jones back to back.
I remember the audience cheeing during the pretitles, and laughing aloud at Bond's jokes while interacting with MacNee.
The Eiffel Tower scene was impressive as was the Golden Gate Bridge. My mother loathed Walken shooting everyone in the shaft sequence, saying "I hope they bring Connery back nexy time."
As for me, all the kids thought it was the best Bond ever made. They must've not seen FRWL were my thoughts.
Still 20 years later, a fun, though flawed OO7 adventure. It was the DAD of the 80s.

#21 PrinceKamalKhan

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Posted 24 May 2005 - 02:13 AM

20 years later we find ourselves in the same predicament: A tired series bereft of energy and creativity, an aging on his way out star and uncertainty...I hope a Dalton type star and TLD type film is in store for us.

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Agreed, Tarl_Cabot though I do like the first 90 minutes of Die Another Day more than many on this forum and my initially negative views on A View To A Kill have softened somewhat though I still think it's the weakest Roger Moore Bond. I hope Casino Royale turns out to be for the 2000s what The Living Daylights was for the 1980s.

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I'll up the ante, I hope Casino Royale is to 2006 what Goldfinger was to 1964!

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Now that would be nice but I don't want to do that. Sets up too big of a possibility for disappoinment.

The last of the good old-fashioned "fun" Bond films, actually. :)

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Just to expand on that on a little, a strong streak of miserablism entered the series with the Dalton era and never really went away. A VIEW TO A KILL was the last film in which we had a Bond not tormented by "his demons" and/or embarking on a "personal" mission. I really wish we could once again see a Bond flick in the MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN/SPY WHO LOVED ME/MOONRAKER/OCTOPUSSY/AVTAK vein, but I somehow doubt we ever will.

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I watched the first 20 minutes of A View To A Kill the other night and thought for all its weaknesses, at least it is refreshingly devoid of the "angst" and sometimes soap opera-ish elements of the Brosnan-era even though I think Moonraker, Octopussy, The Spy Who Loved Me and even The Man With The Golden Gun all do the "fun-Roger Moore-romp-type" 007 film better than A View To A Kill does IMHO.

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Posted 24 May 2005 - 02:24 AM

Great fun. Can't believe there hasn't been a Bond film that was pure, 100 per cent fun in 20 years.

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Have there been any who have been close in your opinion?

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Posted 24 May 2005 - 03:31 AM

Is it really 20 years since we've had a decent Bond movie?. Jesus. how time does fly!!!.

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Posted 24 May 2005 - 03:33 AM

Tonight's movie...A View to a Kill...brought to you by the makers of Depends underwear.

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That was unnecessary.

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Maybe.

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Posted 28 May 2005 - 05:28 PM

This is a realy good decent movie. But one big downside is the Rodger Moore is to old and his face is wrinkly. He was 2 years senior to 60.

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Posted 28 May 2005 - 05:43 PM

I like this one a lot too. It's the first one I ever saw and Christopher Walken really is a great villain. In fact, I'm just starting an article on AVTAK for the site which will hopefully be finished by the end of summer.

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Posted 28 May 2005 - 08:48 PM

This is probably up there as one of if not the most underrated Bond film. Although Moore is quite aged at 58, he delivers his usual funny, charming and justplain fun performance mixed with some decent stunts and action scenes that are fine in my opinion even though they are probably unrealistic for a 58 year old. Roger is great as always and Walken plays one of the best and freakiest Bond villians of all.

#28 Qwerty

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Posted 28 May 2005 - 09:26 PM

I like this one a lot too. It's the first one I ever saw and Christopher Walken really is a great villain.  In fact, I'm just starting an article on AVTAK for the site which will hopefully be finished by the end of summer.

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Can't wait!

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Posted 29 May 2005 - 05:33 AM

Hopefully I'll be inspired enough to where you won't have to. :)

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Posted 29 May 2005 - 05:34 AM

:)