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[Athena007]

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Title Song Performers of the Brosnan Era Tina Turner, Sheryl Crow, Garbage and Madonna

[Righty007]

I hope you all like this!

[Qwerty]

I do. Nice work, Chris.

[agent007jb]

I am pleased that there was not a total Eric Serra bashing for the commment about his GoldenEye score. Madonnas Theme song on the other hand is probably hands down one of the worst Bond songs in history (thus bumping Crows Tomorrow Never Dies off that pedastal).

Danny Kleinmans main title sequences have always appeared to me as an eyesore. His Die Another Day main title sequence was very simple and plain. I will give him points for attractive TWINE titles, but why does each of his ideas have to make it seem like he was on LSD when he dreamt them up?

[Qwerty]

I am pleased that there was not a total Eric Serra bashing for the commment about his GoldenEye score.  Madonnas Theme song on the other hand is probably hands down one of the worst Bond songs in history (thus bumping Crows Tomorrow Never Dies off that pedastal).

Danny Kleinmans main title sequences have always appeared to me as an eyesore.  His Die Another Day main title sequence was very simple and plain.  I will give him points for attractive TWINE titles, but why does each of his ideas have to make it seem like he was on LSD when he dreamt them up?

What was bad about the GoldenEye ones for instance?

[Donovan]

I'm surprised Sheryl Crow's tune didn't chart in the U.S. if only for being associated with a popular film and she has such a cult following. It's a decent enough song...except when she belts out "until the DAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!" Obviously, most Bond fans prefer the end credit tune "Surrender". As for Sheryl Crow, whom I've always liked, she reminds me of a modern-day Carly Simon in terms of talented female singer/song writer.

[Qwerty]

I'm surprised Sheryl Crow's tune didn't chart in the U.S. if only for being associated with a popular film and she has such a cult following. It's a decent enough song...except when she belts out "until the DAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!" Obviously, most Bond fans prefer the end credit tune "Surrender". As for Sheryl Crow, whom I've always liked, she reminds me of a modern-day Carly Simon in terms of talented female singer/song writer.

She's a terrific singer. I think her Bond song is underrated.

[Blofeld's Cat]

I've added a poll in which you can choose either your favourite artist or song in the Brosnan era. Some may like the artist but not the song or vice versa.

I chose "Tina Turner / GoldenEye" because of the four choices I much prefer both the artist AND the song.

[Qwerty]

A surprisingly hard choice. I liked all four songs, and think Sheryl Crow and Madonna are outstanding performers. In the end I went with Sheryl Crow, but it's basically a tie there for me.

[Alex Zamudio]

I love the Brosnan era performers (except for Madonna's song which is interesting but not Bondian at all).

Tina Turner's Goldeneye is my favorite, followed closely by Crow's TND, and Garbage's song was quite cool, I think in general the Brosnan era had great music, both themes and incidental score, it sort of reflects the style of the films; elegant but High-tech

Regards

[spynovelfan]

I think THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH is a great Bond tune - the rest are mediocre at best. GOLDENEYE's lyrics are almost entirely meaningless, and even those that do have some sense to unpick are quite unrelated to the film:

'Goldeneye, not lace or leather
Golden chain take him to the spot
Goldeneye, I

Edited by spynovelfan, 11 April 2005 - 11:09 AM.

[stromberg]

I'm surprised Sheryl Crow's tune didn't chart in the U.S. if only for being associated with a popular film and she has such a cult following. It's a decent enough song...except when she belts out "until the DAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!" Obviously, most Bond fans prefer the end credit tune "Surrender". As for Sheryl Crow, whom I've always liked, she reminds me of a modern-day Carly Simon in terms of talented female singer/song writer.

That came as the biggest surprise to me as well.

Could hardly believe it and researched to and fro to get more information. No results.
It's true: TND did not chart in the U.S. I have no idea why that is, I would have put money on it...

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"The World Is Not Enough", hands-down.

I do have a soft spot for the others - and "Tomorrow Never Dies" is the most underrated song in the whole Bond canon - but Garbage's piece is superb.

[hrabb04]

Great piece, but didn't Madonna also contribute to the soundtrack to the movie League of Their Own? If it's there, I missed it. And if I missed it, my apologies.

[zencat]

Great work on this, Righty. Interesting to see the Sheryl Crow song didn't even chart in the U.S. Sure, the song stinks, but you'd think an artist like Crow would at least guarantee an appearance on the chart.

Good thing they swapped out the excellent k.d lang song for this. Making that swap was a real Brosnan era bonner, IMO.

I voted TWINE my fav. I think that tune is underrated.

[Qwerty]

Great piece, but didn't Madonna also contribute to the soundtrack to the movie League of Their Own?  If it's there, I missed it.  And if I missed it, my apologies.

Ah yes, "This Used To Be My Playground." Was it on the soundtrack?

[Righty007]

[quote name='Qwerty' date='11 April 2005 - 13:23'][quote name='hrabb04' date='11 April 2005 - 09:17']Great piece, but didn't Madonna also contribute to the soundtrack to the movie League of Their Own?

[tdalton]

I thought that the Brosnan title songs were very much like Brosnan's tenure as Bond: inconsistent. "GoldenEye", like the film, was very good and hip. Tina Turner was a natural choice to perform a Bond theme song, and Bono and The Edge being brought on as writers was just pure genius. "Tomorrow Never Dies" was not that great a song, and k.d. Lange's "Surrender" should have been used instead. "The World Is Not Enough" was a very good theme song, not as good as "GoldenEye", but it was great to have a rock band perform the title track again. "Die Another Day" was, and will forever be, the worst theme song in the history of film. Madonna can't sing anymore (if she ever could) and the amount of computer "enhancements" that they were trying to use on her voice was embarassing. I was appalled while watching that sequence in the theater and felt embarassed for all of those involved with the title sequence. It's very hard to feel any emotional attachment to the movie's hero being tortured when he's being tortured to a techno dance song.

[Bon-san]

I voted for TWINE. A very Bondian song done by a very groovy band (and lyrics by Don Black ). I really like Goldeneye as well, despite the sometimes weak lyrics (but isn't that a Bond tradition in itself?--"...and he strikes, like Thunderbaaaaaaallll...."). I initially was not a big fan of TND, but after numerous listenings over the years, it has grown on me considerably. As has (gasp!) DAD. I actually prefer DAD to Matt Munro's rendition of FRWL, which I find boring and dated in the worst of ways. [Note: the version of FRWL on David Arnold's "Shaken and Stirred" is awesome]

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One addition I overlooked, Chris.

Garbage have a song on the "Buffy, The Vampire Slayer: The Album" CD called "Temptation Waits". Top song.

[Mr. Somerset]

Foe me it's a close toss up between Tina Turner's GE and Garbage's TWINE for me. I think my most favourite Brosnan era song is Surrender. A superb and very Bondian tune. It's a shame it wasn't used as the main title song as those opening chords would've been quite powerful following the pre-credits sequence.
Hate to say it, but The Experience Of Love was my least fave until DAD came along.

[RJJB]

It's GoldenEye by Tina Turner. It's a "tougher" song, not one of the wimpy love songs that became so prevalent during the Moore era. (I can't handle "Nobody Does It Better" or "All Time High"). It's pretty obvious that they were going for the brassy sound that harkens back to Goldfinger. The other great thing about the song is the use of the James Bond theme as a supporting melody. Not overly noticeable, but you definitely hear it.

As runner up, it's TWINE. Both the movie version and the soundtrack CD version have good points. The movie version has the great back up instrumentation (sorry not sure what instrument produces it) that is not on the CD, or else my volume needs to be adjusted. But at least the CD version contains the line "there's no point in living if you can't feel alive." Since Elektra spoke that line, it should have been retained in the movie version. Bad choice to excise it, no matter what time constraints needed to be met.

Edited by RJJB, 15 April 2005 - 07:39 PM.

[trumanlodge89]

my vote is for TND. very underrated, as was the movie in general. TWINE is second for me. both have the cool throwback feel to them. GE is up there too. tina turner really sings the hell out of it. DAD is barely a song. just terrible. i have nothing else to say about it.

[Athena007]

Ok, I finally voted. I like Tomorrow Never Dies because it's fun to sing for Karaoke, but that's about it. So I voted for The World Is Not Enough, it's powerful... sexy... and it's Bond (imo).

What I love about the Bond Theme songs is that each an be attributed to a character in the film. I mean, this character is the real one "singing" the song, make sense?)

GoldenEye (Alec Tevelyan)
Tomorrow Never Dies (Paris Carver)
The World Is Not Enough (Elektra King)
Die Another Day (Gustav Graves)

[Qwerty]

Poor Madonna. That song just doesn't seem to stand a chance sometimes now.

[Blofeld's Cat]

[quote name='Righty007' date='12 April 2005 - 03:32'][quote name='Qwerty' date='11 April 2005 - 13:23'][quote name='hrabb04' date='11 April 2005 - 09:17']Great piece, but didn't Madonna also contribute to the soundtrack to the movie League of Their Own?

[Paul Scrabo]

The mix of THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH used in the ACTUAL FILM is superior to the soundtrack album version. There is more Bondian brass used. Anyone notice or agree?
Also, to me, SURRENDER is the REAL theme for TOMORROW NEVER DIES. It is heard thru out the film, and the best Bond song in 20 years.
If you listen to the film scoundtrack to DIE ANOTHER DAY, you can actual hear, I believe, Arnold's version of what SHOULD have been the title track. It is heard during fast action scenes. I'll try to pinpoint it more.
Paul

[Dunph]

The mix of THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH used in the ACTUAL FILM is superior to the soundtrack album version. There is more Bondian brass used. Anyone notice or agree?

Yup, I much prefer the mix of that track and all the staccato brass, but not the edit, which cut out the most important line in the song. The 'Chilled out' mix of The World Is Not Enough incidentally features almost every element apart from the orchestral.

If you listen to the film scoundtrack to DIE ANOTHER DAY, you can actual hear, I believe, Arnold's version of what SHOULD have been the title track. It is heard during fast action scenes. I'll try to pinpoint it more.
Paul

It's called "I Will Return." It was apparently recorded with Natacha Atlas with lyrics by Don Black (though I doubt the veracity of the first part of that rumour. I doubt that it was even recorded or finally mastered). I imagine the introduction used the uber-brassy riff heard in Bond's arrival in Iceland, and sounds much like the track Peaceful Fountains of Desire heard on the soundtrack. You can hear it in Hovercraft Chase too, when the drum breaks down to the oriental percussion (Before the Bond theme shoves it's way in).

[Qwerty]

[quote name='Blofeld's Cat' date='15 April 2005 - 22:43'][quote name='Righty007' date='12 April 2005 - 03:32'][quote name='Qwerty' date='11 April 2005 - 13:23'][quote name='hrabb04' date='11 April 2005 - 09:17']Great piece, but didn't Madonna also contribute to the soundtrack to the movie League of Their Own?

[Moonraker]

I'm not a big fan of TND(surrender was way better), but I love Sheryl Crows other music. I was dissapointed with her bond theme, felt she could have done better.