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#31 Turn

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Posted 05 August 2004 - 12:11 AM

I'd say all the Bond's probably miss "something". No one will agree on one specific one.

I don't want to turn this into one of those Connery rules debates, but I can't find anything wrong with his Bond performance.

Also, Qwerty, I agree with you that I like all the Bond actors as well. Some more than others but I still don't have anything personal against any of them considering they have given me countless hours of fun over the years especially in their Bond films but in many others as well.

And I am not saying this from youthful enthusiasm as Finesse puts it considering I am his age. :)

#32 Qwerty

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Posted 05 August 2004 - 01:58 AM

I'd say all the Bond's probably miss "something". No one will agree on one specific one.

I don't want to turn this into one of those Connery rules debates, but I can't find anything wrong with his Bond performance.

Occasionally, Sean Connery didn't have even a hint of enthusiam. You Only Live Twice and Diamonds Are Forever are two such examples. He just wasn't all there for some of his films.

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Posted 05 August 2004 - 02:03 AM

LTK was the ghetto version of 007.

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Posted 05 August 2004 - 02:04 AM

LTK was the ghetto version of 007.

Ghetto version?

Exactly how?

#35 Righty007

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Posted 05 August 2004 - 02:24 AM

I would like to know too. Ghetto version of 007? Whatever...

#36 Qwerty

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Posted 05 August 2004 - 02:25 AM

I would like to know too. Ghetto version of 007? Whatever...

Exactly.

Closest thing to ghetto version...was the ghetto blaster. :)

#37 PaulZ108

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Posted 05 August 2004 - 03:03 AM

LTK was the ghetto version of 007.

If by that you mean that LTK had this trashy 80's cop movie feel, then I agree with you completely. It just lacks that Bond feel. There was so much focus on making it grittier with Bond out for revenge that it lost much of the atmosphere that most of the others have.

#38 Qwerty

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Posted 05 August 2004 - 03:05 AM

LTK was the ghetto version of 007.

If by that you mean that LTK had this trashy 80's cop movie feel, then I agree with you completely. It just lacks that Bond feel. There was so much focus on making it grittier with Bond out for revenge that it lost much of the atmosphere that most of the others have.

Oh I see. Licence To Kill may be half and half then. Definitely more of your 1980's Miami Vice or whatnot police flick than the typical Bond film.

Lacking the full Bond atmosphere, but it still is present.

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Posted 17 August 2004 - 01:05 PM

When I wrote this little recollection I meant to include pics but at the time I was in a hurry so I didn't get around to it until now.

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This newsletter from the James Bond Fan Club (the original club based in America) reflects the tidalwave at the time that Pierce Brosnan was indeed the next James Bond.

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Then, out of nowhere, came this announcement which took everyone by surprise. The less than flattering picture of Dalton left me with serious reservations, not to mention the fact that I'd never heard of him.

http://home.comcast....l/td-office.jpg

Months later during filming pictures like this made their way into the papers. This was the first picture I saw of Dalton as Bond where I was amazed at how much I felt he looked like my conception of the character from reading the Fleming novels.

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With the opening day closing in interviews and magazine appearances were becoming more frequent. This June '87 issue featured some promising ideas from Dalton on how he was playing Bond.

#40 Solex Agitator

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Posted 18 August 2004 - 09:49 AM

Timothy Dalton was fine James Bond.

I had been raised on Bond films and Bond lore. My parents loved the cinema and I grew up seeing alot of movies.

In 1987, I viewed the Connery era as the classic era. His films portrayed a certain time and a certain place. Times and places that no longer existed in 1987.

Likewise, the Moore era (which was my generation's Bond) represented fantasy and escapist entertainment. It was pure and it was fun. TSWLM is magic.

By the time Dalton showed up, however, I was ready for something different. And different it was. Dalton's Bond was realistic. His world was, for the most part, real. You could actually apsire to it! For a then 22 year-old, this was 00-heaven. This truly was a Bond for the ages.

THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS is one of finest 007 films in my opinion. Easily in the top 5.

Like the initiator of this thread, I too remember the days before the internet when info on the new Bond film was limited. Watching the white dots slink across the screen TRULY meant that you were about to be immersed into a NEW world and a NEW adventure. No spoliers.

TLD delivered.

I miss the Dalton days.

Time for a cup of tea.

#41 Jack Bauer

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Posted 22 August 2004 - 02:18 AM

Donovan, I did my own little follow-through, this time with Julian McMahon. :)

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Posted 22 August 2004 - 02:25 AM

17 yrs ago, I wasx dating my 4th grade teachers' daughter while I was in the 5th grade. I wanted to take her on our 1st date to see The Living Daylights, but she wanted to see La Bamba, since she hated James Bond. I saw her yrs later at a screening for Goldeneye!

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Posted 22 August 2004 - 04:08 AM

That Julian Mcmahon has a humungous forehead! :)

#44 Qwerty

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Posted 22 August 2004 - 04:18 AM

That Julian Mcmahon has a humungous forehead! :)

His whole head, it's weird looking.

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Posted 22 August 2004 - 04:50 AM

Maybe he's really testing for a bad guy role---Oh please god, let's have that be the case! :)

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Posted 22 August 2004 - 05:30 AM

Maybe he's really testing for a bad guy role---Oh please god, let's have that be the case! :)

You'd like to see him in a James Bond film, Tarl?

I wouldn't, personally. He doesn't seem like her could be memorable, IMO.

#47 Jack Bauer

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Posted 22 August 2004 - 07:45 AM

That Julian Mcmahon has a humungous forehead! :)

It's his receding hairline that gives you that impression. Much the same reason why Paul Blackthorne wouldn't make a good Bond.

And if we want memorable, how about Donald Sutherland? :)

#48 Qwerty

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Posted 22 August 2004 - 03:26 PM

When I wrote this little recollection I meant to include pics but at the time I was in a hurry so I didn't get around to it until now.

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This newsletter from the James Bond Fan Club (the original club based in America) reflects the tidalwave at the time that Pierce Brosnan was indeed the next James Bond.

Posted Image

Then, out of nowhere, came this announcement which took everyone by surprise. The less than flattering picture of Dalton left me with serious reservations, not to mention the fact that I'd never heard of him.

http://home.comcast....l/td-office.jpg

Months later during filming pictures like this made their way into the papers. This was the first picture I saw of Dalton as Bond where I was amazed at how much I felt he looked like my conception of the character from reading the Fleming novels.

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With the opening day closing in interviews and magazine appearances were becoming more frequent. This June '87 issue featured some promising ideas from Dalton on how he was playing Bond.

Very interesting read and pictures there Donovan. :)

Dalton looks really young in that second picture.

#49 Tarl_Cabot

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Posted 23 August 2004 - 01:00 AM

Maybe he's really testing for a bad guy role---Oh please god, let's have that be the case! :)

You'd like to see him in a James Bond film, Tarl?

I wouldn't, personally. He doesn't seem like her could be memorable, IMO.

As long as he's not playing Bond I'll survive his casting as a villian, but the answer to your question is no. :)

#50 Qwerty

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Posted 23 August 2004 - 01:01 AM

Maybe he's really testing for a bad guy role---Oh please god, let's have that be the case! :)

You'd like to see him in a James Bond film, Tarl?

I wouldn't, personally. He doesn't seem like her could be memorable, IMO.

As long as he's not playing Bond I'll survive his casting as a villian, but the answer to your question is no. :)

Ah, fair enough.

Better a villain than Bond in any case.

#51 Donovan

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Posted 31 July 2006 - 11:33 PM

Well, now it was 19 years ago today. Nineteen!

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Posted 31 July 2006 - 11:57 PM

We're less than a week from the 20th anniversary of the announcement of Dalton as Bond.

#53 Pam Bouvier

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Posted 01 August 2006 - 02:16 AM

:) God I can't believe it's been that long.I feel very old.

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Posted 01 August 2006 - 03:39 PM

Two decades since the last time we got a new Bond I was happy with..

I too grew up with Moore, but he was getting old, and I remember seeing Dalton as sheriff Oliver Seccombe in the TV-series "Centennial" around 1980, and thinking he would be perfect as Bond.In 1986 I was very happy, but most of my friends had never heard of him , and reacted negatively, based on crappy pictures in the papers. Much like today, isn

#55 Jericho_One

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Posted 19 August 2006 - 10:02 AM

[quote name='Thunderfinger' post='580162' date='1 August 2006 - 16:39']
Two decades since the last time we got a new Bond I was happy with..

I too grew up with Moore, but he was getting old, and I remember seeing Dalton as sheriff Oliver Seccombe in the TV-series "Centennial" around 1980, and thinking he would be perfect as Bond.In 1986 I was very happy, but most of my friends had never heard of him , and reacted negatively, based on crappy pictures in the papers. Much like today, isn

#56 DaveBond21

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Posted 21 August 2006 - 01:05 AM

Well Dalton was, and Daniel Craig is better known in the UK, than in the USA. So, it is a totally different experience coming from the UK, as far as Bond is concerned.

In addition, we see British actors we know from other things in Bond films, like in TWINE (one of the wheel-clampers during the Thames Boat chase was in a show about wheelclampers in Britain) and in DAD (Oliver Skeete at Blades fencing club).

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Posted 21 August 2006 - 02:17 AM

I went into THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS with a bad attitude. As a kid in summer 87, I had recently rented all the older Bonds and Roger Moore was so cool to me at the time. I didn't know anything about this Dalton guy when I went to the theater. Then, the lights dimmed and within 10 minutes, Bond was dressed as a sniper, actually acting like a spy. It was so incredible! It really did bring a whole new element in the series. Although Licence To Kill, feels a bit rushed and the direction is a bit stale, it's still one of my favorite 007 films. I'll never forget how Dalton won me over and I've been a loyal fan of his to this day. I was worried with the recent direction of the last couple flicks, but I kinda feel like Craig and Casino Royale is a homage to the Dalton era, maybe executed with a bigger budget, better marketing and more lively direction. Let's hope...

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Posted 21 August 2006 - 07:08 AM

I have to say I met hundreds of Bond fans over the years, who discovered Bond with LD, and had not seen any Moore movies except on video later. That is the effect LD had, people who never had seen any of the 007 movies became hooked.

I know of nobody who became hooked on 007 with Octopussy or AVTAK.

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Posted 23 August 2006 - 01:02 AM

TLD was the first official Bond film I saw at a cinema, the first Bond film I saw at a cinema was Never Say Never Again!!

#60 Donovan

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 09:27 PM

Well, I started this thread exactly eight years ago and today it's the 25th anniversary of the film's American release -- the silver anniversary of a film that was released during the silver anniversary of the series.




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