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#31 DLibrasnow

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Posted 09 March 2004 - 04:38 AM

Draco? Hmmm... My recollection was that it was "a favorite uncle" who gave Bond his inheritance, not Draco. But Gardner did say Draco had died...but I forget in which book.

Maybe someone else knows.

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#32 zencat

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Posted 09 March 2004 - 07:10 AM

Very nice article.  I'll have to check the original manuscript (which I - cough - cough OWN!) and see if there is anything to add that didn't make it into the book.  There are deleted passages.

From what I remember - there was almost nothing in the Glidrose archives on the Saab.

Maibaum's archives didn't have anything either - so I doubt it was ever under much serious consideration for films when he was the screenwriter.

:)

Original manuscript... Now that I would love to see, smell, touch...

And you've gone through the Glidrose and Maibaum archives? We need to talk. :)

#33 Jim

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Posted 09 March 2004 - 12:24 PM

Very entertaining article; thank you JC (prophetic initials?)

Without wishing to change tack too much, I remember reading in a computer magazine called Crash! (for the ZX Spectrum, if anyone remembers that) way back when (presumably 1986/7 sometime) that in the new film James Bond would be driving a souped up Aston and SAABs, like he does "in the books by John Gardiner". The reason for remembering this is that I wrote a letter to said magazine complaining that they had not got the man's name correct (I was enthusiastic, 13 and pointlessly protective of this Bond twaddle, forgive my crassness). It didn't get published. I still haven't forgiven them, even though the magazine folded years ago. But that shouldn't stand in the way of revenge, should it?

One wonders if there was a last minute switch to those Audis that are kicking about The Living Daylights (and not doing too much) - maybe to avoid the inevitable complaint that Eon was just lifting great swathes of the Gardner books.

Of course, it could just have been utter guesswork on their part, but from memory (increasingly poor as I age) most of the other details they mentioned were right, or right-ish.

Seeing the SAAB pootling around Bratislava/Tangiers instead would have been great. The boot was big enough for its task - I know this because I am indeed a CBn member whose mother had a SAAB 900 Turbo!

If I can find this article I will reference it properly. I know it happened. I tend not to dream articles in periodicals for long-defunct computers.

#34 zencat

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Posted 09 March 2004 - 04:28 PM

Very cool, Jim! If you could find that article, yes, please reference it and I will add it to the article (do you have a scanner?). I've always connected the Saab/movie rumor to Octopussy, but, yes, it would have been great for them to have used the Saab in TLD. But if it was 87...my fear is they would have used a 9000 instead of a 900, and the 9000 just looks like that Audi they used.

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Posted 10 March 2004 - 01:30 AM

Got an email for Mr. Gardner himself saying he enjoyed the article. :) He only had one correction -- the promotional tour Saab was outfitted by Saab itself, not CCS. So that has been fixed. I also tweaked it a bit to show that Mr. Gardner is a very prolific writer outside of Bond (even though he didn't ask me to do this). Can you believe he's written 53 books to date? Quite a career...

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Posted 10 March 2004 - 01:33 AM

Zencat, that's quite an honor indeed! Really, it really is. Props for you on such a fine article!

Very cool that he enjoyed it!

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Posted 10 March 2004 - 02:54 AM

I just like the idea that John Gardner is now a CBner. :)

#38 Qwerty

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Posted 10 March 2004 - 04:05 AM

Could you explain a little more Zencat? :)

#39 DLibrasnow

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Posted 10 March 2004 - 04:12 AM

Got an email for Mr. Gardner himself saying he enjoyed the article. :) He only had one correction -- the promotional tour Saab was outfitted by Saab itself, not CCS. So that has been fixed. I also tweaked it a bit to show that Mr. Gardner is a very prolific writer outside of Bond (even though he didn't ask me to do this). Can you believe he's written 53 books to date? Quite a career...

Very cool...I actually received a couple of letters from Mr. Gardner back in the 1980s in reply to some fan mail I sent him.

#40 zencat

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Posted 10 March 2004 - 07:09 PM

My own "SAAB 007" circa 1983. Man, I loved this car!

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#41 zencat

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Posted 10 March 2004 - 07:13 PM

Not a great pic, but it does show the license plate. See, I wasn't kidding. :)

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#42 Loomis

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Posted 10 March 2004 - 07:14 PM

I just like the idea that John Gardner is now a CBner. :)

Yes, well, we'll see about that. Let's wait till he makes a post before we welcome him to the club. :)

Trivia note: I believe Raymond Benson used to post on some Bond site or another, but stopped after he was appointed continuation novelist.

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Posted 10 March 2004 - 07:18 PM

Not a great pic, but it does show the license plate. See, I wasn't kidding.

ooo I love that pic :) I could mess with the contrast & tint a bit and make the colors brighter for you :)

My own "SAAB 007" circa 1983. Man, I loved this car!

hee hee, silly ZenCat. Too bad I was only ONE year old in 1983... I could have ridden around with you :)

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Posted 10 March 2004 - 07:39 PM

That is a great article John! Great work.

I'll be in the loft tomorrow digging my Gardner books out...

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Posted 10 March 2004 - 08:10 PM

Wow! Gardner comes to CBn! That is tres cool!

I don't know what I want to do more....ride in a Saab or read Gardner's books.

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Posted 10 March 2004 - 11:03 PM

does anyone have some photos , that you could show here please? :)

#47 Qwerty

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Posted 10 March 2004 - 11:05 PM

Agent76, there are photos of the car in the article on the main page of CBn. :)

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Posted 10 March 2004 - 11:25 PM

Agent76, there are photos of the car in the article on the main page of CBn. :)

ok , thanks! :)

#49 Qwerty

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Posted 11 March 2004 - 12:53 AM

You're welcome, but you should check out the first post in articles like these, they usually will direct people to photos if there are any. :)

#50 DLibrasnow

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Posted 11 March 2004 - 01:01 AM

Wow! Gardner comes to CBn! That is tres cool!

I don't know what I want to do more....ride in a Saab or read Gardner's books.

-- Xen

I know reading Zencat's article made me nostalgic for Gardners first Bond books. Can you believe it's been over 20 years since they were published?! Wow!

#51 zencat

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Posted 11 March 2004 - 05:20 PM

I know reading Zencat's article made me nostalgic for Gardners first Bond books. Can you believe it's been over 20 years since they were published?! Wow!

This year will be the 20th Anniversay of...Role of Honor! (book #4) Amazing how the time goes by. Those "Micros"* have come a long way, haven't they? :)



*Bond calls personal computers "Micros" throughout this book.

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Posted 11 March 2004 - 05:38 PM

does anyone have some photos , that you could show here please? :)

Simply gaze below, sir. :)

#53 DLibrasnow

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Posted 11 March 2004 - 07:08 PM

Yes, I got a similar nostalgic jolt reading over a magazine from 1981 the other day which discussed some behind the scenes stuff on For Your Eyes Only

#54 zencat

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Posted 11 March 2004 - 07:14 PM

Yes, I got a similar nostalgic jolt reading over a magazine from 1981 the other day which discussed some behind the scenes stuff on For Your Eyes Only

The scary thing is when you pull out of these mags from the '80s -- that you remember buying as if it was yesterday -- and the pages have all yellowed with age. Makes me wonder what my liver looks like. :) :)

#55 DLibrasnow

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Posted 11 March 2004 - 07:15 PM

Yes, I got a similar nostalgic jolt reading over a magazine from 1981 the other day which discussed some behind the scenes stuff on For Your Eyes Only

The scary thing is when you pull out of these mags form the '80s -- that you remember buying as if it was yesterday -- and the pages have all yellowed with age. Makes me wonder what my liver looks like. :) :)

I know exactly what you mean!

#56 zencat

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Posted 11 March 2004 - 07:17 PM

Even my GoldeEye stuff looks aged! :)

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Posted 11 March 2004 - 08:07 PM

I'm having a jolly time searching for the original novels by Gardner, in the UK hardcovers. Always fun to search for them! :)

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Posted 11 March 2004 - 09:09 PM

I'm having a jolly time searching for the original novels by Gardner, in the UK hardcovers. Always fun to search for them! :)

I actually envy you, Qwerty. I remember searching for all the Fleming/Gardner books myself in the '80s. Before the internet, the ONLY way to find them (or even see what they looked like) was in used bookstores and they were VERY rare (and UK editions...forget it). One by one I would find them

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Posted 11 March 2004 - 09:14 PM

[quote name='zencat' date='11 March 2004 - 16:09'] [quote name='Qwerty' date='11 March 2004 - 12:07'] I'm having a jolly time searching for the original novels by Gardner, in the UK hardcovers. Always fun to search for them! :) [/quote]
I actually envy you, Qwerty. I remember searching for all the Fleming/Gardner books myself in the '80s. Before the internet, the ONLY way to find them (or even see what they looked like) was in used bookstores and they were VERY rare (and UK editions...forget it). One by one I would find them

#60 DLibrasnow

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Posted 11 March 2004 - 09:16 PM

This thread also has me very nostalgic....I remember anxiously waiting for each new Gardner novel to come out!




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