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> Forster Confirms Amalric And Taubman, Start of principal shooting on January 3, 2008
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Start of principal shooting on January 3, 2008




 
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A split personality? Are we going to have Bond turning into a paranoid schizophrenic or something? That part of the interview quite worries me.

On the other hand, good we've had confirmation of the actors. I know the German he's talking about though and I think Ganz would've done a good job as a villian. I don't know Taubman, so I'll just have to hope he's good.

Does anyone know any films he's been in?

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QUOTE(Licence_007 @ 30 December 2007 - 13:41) *
A split personality? Are we going to have Bond turning into a paranoid schizophrenic or something? That part of the interview quite worries me.

Actually it's that part of the interview that excites me most. We are still witnessing the evolution of the James Bond character, and hopefully this may present an opportunity to include unused aspects of the novels 'You Only Live Twice' and 'The Man With the Golden Gun'.
 
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Split personality.

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I think that the movie will definetely be called 007 aka Double 'O' Seven, and that some kind of brainwashing ala MWTGG is part of the plot. Time will tell, but I'm excited already, especially if it appears there will be a scene where 007 tries to kill M !



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So why not sign Bruno Ganz first then...?!!! He could've been a fantastic villain!

I've never seen Mathieu Amalric but he looks too young and too dapper for me (gives me bad Gustav-Graves-vibes).



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QUOTE(Mr_Wint @ 30 December 2007 - 14:51) *
So why not sign Bruno Ganz first then...?!!! He could've been a fantastic villain!

Bruno Ganz is the highest profile German language actor (he's actually Swiss), he was even before he played Hitler. He still is mainly a theatre guy, and I doubt that he'd even remotely think about touching anything like Bond. Chances would be better if they tried to get Hopkins or DeNiro.




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QUOTE(stamper @ 30 December 2007 - 13:49) *
Split personality.

Double 'O' Seven

I think that the movie will definetely be called 007 aka Double 'O' Seven, and that some kind of brainwashing ala MWTGG is part of the plot. Time will tell, but I'm excited already, especially if it appears there will be a scene where 007 tries to kill M !


Doesn't DOUBLESHOT feature a Bond with a split personality? Haven't read it, so I may be wrong. Still, good points as ever, stamper, and, yes, I'll be surprised if the film isn't called 007.

But I do wish Forster would stop knocking exotic locations. Some of us are still interested in a globetrotting Bond, and don't feel that travel - whether in films or in real life - has become terribly boring and commonplace and so much part of the regular routine of the average Joe that it's almost embarrassing for 007 to be doing it.
 
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I think Foster is just speaking the same language we head before regarding bond, ie that travel to exotic places is not enough to carry a whole movie (early ones had this interesting thing where they would translate a mundane plot into a wild, colorful setting, making all the difference).
Whatever happens in the next, I'm sure we will get truckloads of shots just like in CR, arkin back to TB and such, in far location, but they will not be the main attraction, just cherry on the cake.



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QUOTE(stromberg @ 30 December 2007 - 14:02) *
QUOTE(Mr_Wint @ 30 December 2007 - 14:51) *
So why not sign Bruno Ganz first then...?!!! He could've been a fantastic villain!

Bruno Ganz is the highest profile German language actor (he's actually Swiss), he was even before he played Hitler. He still is mainly a theatre guy, and I doubt that he'd even remotely think about touching anything like Bond. Chances would be better if they tried to get Hopkins or DeNiro.


Hmmm.... but Ganz is hardly a name outside Europe. I'm still surprised that the likes of Craig, Green, Haggis and Forster were prepared to do Bond, so perhaps we shouldn't rule Ganz out (in the future, I mean; I realise that he's not in the frame for BOND 22).

Your mentioning of Hopkins and De Niro reminds me that BOND 22 is shaping up to be another "star"-free affair, unless they're about to announce Salma Hayek, Angelina Jolie or Catherine Zeta-Jones as the "Latina" leading lady. I imagine it'll be a little-known actress, but you never know.

I guess the casting of a big name like Berry in DIE ANOTHER DAY was always very much the exception and not the rule, but the Bond series, like the Bourne franchise, is currently doing an admirable job of showing that blockbusters don't have to have all-star casts to do well.
 
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QUOTE(Loomis @ 30 December 2007 - 15:46) *
... Still, good points as ever, stamper, and, yes, I'll be surprised if the film isn't called 007.

I wouldn't bet my grandma's wig on it.
Seriously doubt it'll happen.

You're reading too much into this.




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QUOTE(stromberg @ 30 December 2007 - 14:55) *
You're reading too much into this.


Possibly. I'd be more than happy with that title, though. And stamper and I were discussing it as a title option for BOND 22 many months ago here on CBn, long before Craig's and Forster's recent cryptic comments. (I'm not saying, by the way, that that makes it more likely that we're right, just that fandom has long been mulling over 007 as a potential title for the second in the BOND BEGINS series.)

Who knows, though? Not me (and I realise that the place to discuss 007 as a rumoured title isn't this thread). smile.gif
 
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QUOTE(Loomis @ 30 December 2007 - 15:54) *
Hmmm.... but Ganz is hardly a name outside Europe. I'm still surprised that the likes of Craig, Green, Haggis and Forster were prepared to do Bond, so perhaps we shouldn't rule Ganz out (in the future, I mean; I realise that he's not in the frame for BOND 22).

You may have a point there - with Bond, anything is possible.




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QUOTE(stromberg @ 30 December 2007 - 16:24) *
QUOTE(Loomis @ 30 December 2007 - 15:54) *
Hmmm.... but Ganz is hardly a name outside Europe. I'm still surprised that the likes of Craig, Green, Haggis and Forster were prepared to do Bond, so perhaps we shouldn't rule Ganz out (in the future, I mean; I realise that he's not in the frame for BOND 22).

You may have a point there - with Bond, anything is possible.

No. With money, anything is possible wink.gif



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Based on his previous work, I'm still having a hard time mentally predicting what a Marc Forster Bond film is going to be like. At the very least, this should be an interesting journey that's about to begin...





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QUOTE(Loomis @ 30 December 2007 - 09:59) *
(I'm not saying, by the way, that that makes it more likely that we're right, just that fandom has long been mulling over 007 as a potential title for the second in the BOND BEGINS series.)


Why not? In 1998 fans on the alt. site (myself included) were debating the merits of The World is not Enough as a title when the title of the movie was still Bond 19.




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Good to have confirmation of the two villains.

I find the split personality thing interesting. Forster has a good point that locations are no longer enough to carry a Bond movie. I'm excited to see how the film turns out. Hard to believe shooting starts in a few days.



 
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I agree that exotic locales alone are not enough to carry a Bond movie, but I still feel that they are essential and effort should be made to maintain the glamour of such locations. A Bond movie certainly wouldn't hold the same appeal (at least not to me) if it was shot entirely in rundown inner city areas with permanently grey skies overhead.
 
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Gee, if you were casting a Blofeld, wouldn't Ganz be damn near perfect? Interesting.
 
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I think by split personality that Forster is refering to the double life Bond leads. Charming playboy/ruthless assassin. The way Bond can turn it on and off in the blink of an eye. I can see Bond struggling to balance the normal and abnormal aspects of his life. Something that hasn't really been explored in the films before.





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QUOTE(Gobi-1 @ 30 December 2007 - 21:02) *
I think by split personality that Forster is refering to the double life Bond leads. Charming playboy/ruthless assassin. The way Bond can turn it on and off in the blink of an eye. I can see Bond struggling to balance the normal and abnormal aspects of his life. Something that hasn't really been explored in the films before.


Yes that's what I was thinking too. Remember in CR Vesper says "You can switch off so easily, can't you?". This would be a good angle to explore, hopefully sans the "peeling back the layers" nonsense.

As for Forster's comments about the locations, I think that with the locations they've chosen - Panama, Bolivia, Palio, and a picturesque Austrian village, that the scenery in Bond 22 will be pretty exotic, whether Forster likes it or not smile.gif
 
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It all sounds promising. I want them to explore the character deeper.



 
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I hope it's more psychological than any of the other 21 films... wink.gif



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QUOTE(Mr. Blofeld @ 31 December 2007 - 17:35) *
I hope it's more psychological than any of the other 21 films... wink.gif


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QUOTE(Loomis @ 30 December 2007 - 14:54) *
... unless they're about to announce Salma Hayek, Angelina Jolie or Catherine Zeta-Jones as the "Latina" leading lady.


I'd feel like vomiting if they did.

The emphasis in James Bond movies should ALWAYS be on James Bond and NEVER on publicity-seeking American or Hollywood performers (Jolie, et al) and directors (Tarantino).

The star of these movies is and SHOULD be the primary character himself. From Dr No to Casino Royale, it's always the same. These films don't require higher-profile American actresses who, most often than not, end up delivering sub-par performances and, generally, have the (negative) effect of shifting focus away from the story.

Money is best spent on writing, sets, real stunt work and the actor playing Bond (up to a point). Money spent on securing a higher profile Hollywood actress is, in my view, a complete misuse of a not-unlimited amount of finanacial resources.
 
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QUOTE(Vauxhall @ 30 December 2007 - 21:15) *
I agree that exotic locales alone are not enough to carry a Bond movie, but I still feel that they are essential and effort should be made to maintain the glamour of such locations. A Bond movie certainly wouldn't hold the same appeal (at least not to me) if it was shot entirely in rundown inner city areas with permanently grey skies overhead.


I agree, Vauxhall.

Further, there is a huge difference between an exotic location and an 'exclusive' exotic location which the average person can't afford to go to. This takes into account what i've continued to dub as the "aspirational" quality of the James Bond movies.

Case in point: In CR we have The Bahamas as a location. Yes, a lot of people can visit Nassau/Paradise Island...but not everyone can afford to stay and play cards at The One And Only Ocean Club. [I went to lunch there in February and I can tell you it ain't cheap.] THAT's the difference in my mind between merely 'exotic' and 'James Bond exotic'.

Same thing applies to Aston Martin. Not everyone gets a chance to drive one.

Hopefully Mr Forester understands the distinction...if not, then i'm sure Michael and Barbara will point him the right way.
 
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QUOTE(Double-0-Seven @ 30 December 2007 - 15:46) *
Good to have confirmation of the two villains.

I find the split personality thing interesting. Forster has a good point that locations are no longer enough to carry a Bond movie. I'm excited to see how the film turns out. Hard to believe shooting starts in a few days.


Agreed. It sounds like we could have some very interesting characters here. thumbup.gif




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I don't hope it psychological, I just hope Bond will kill and shag his way out of everyman (kill) and woman (shag) appearing in the movie.

Killing M or trying to kill her would be good, it would sum the character up ! (No, I don't expect a torrid bed scene between Judi and Dan)



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CR was the first real time we got a film where it was driven by the character James Bond, yes they may be exceptions but even from an early point Bond was just a device to tell a fantastical story.

His character wasn't very multi dimensional and at the time what we saw was all we needed so the early films can be forgiven but when the elements started to take precedent it was almost like as long as we tick the boxes who cares if Bond is nothing but a cardboard cut out.

I've enjoyed these films to a degree and as I've said their are exceptions OHMSS, TLD & LTK but CR was the first time the film was based around 007.

Nolan took the same angle with Begins and look what dividends payed off from that, both DK & 22 are looking like expanding on the universe that has been recreated in these 2 tremendously successful reboots.

22 like DK is gonna take us on a journey that will expand on the inner turmoil of the character and thats so much more interesting than big OTT plots & cliched elements.

Hopefully Amalric's villain's like ledger's Joker will push buttons in Bond which will see him question himself. A battle of the minds is far more exciting than the usual Bond High concept shenanigans.

Bond 22 is looking more and more promising and 007 is looking to me a great title.

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