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Commodore RNVR Group: The Admiralty Enlisted: 8 October 2001 From: 38.6902N - 89.9816W |
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Fantastically interesting article from Jeremy Duns.
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Commander RNVR Group: Commanding Officers Enlisted: 26 June 2003 From: New York |
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An incredibly interesting and well-researched article, Mr. Duns. I definitely must give this Hunter-Killer a read.
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Sub-Lieutenant Group: Crew Enlisted: 3 January 2005 From: Deep Woods of Austria |
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Wow. Finally. Does that mean I have to subscribe now?? Argh?
This post has been edited by wattenscheid09: 16 March 2006 - 05:23 |
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Commander RNVR Group: Commanding Officers Enlisted: 26 June 2003 From: New York |
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Wow. Finally. Does that mean I have to subscribe now?? Argh? You should definitely pick up KKBB #2. ![]() |
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Sub-Lieutenant Group: Crew Enlisted: 3 January 2005 From: Deep Woods of Austria |
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Done. Am a subsciber now.
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Commander Group: Veterans Enlisted: 20 June 2002 From: London |
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That really is a fantastic piece- well done.
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Commander RNR Group: Veterans Reserve Enlisted: 14 December 2001 From: USA |
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Don't have the magazine yet, but from the CBn article, and the discussion thread in the Literature section, I am already blown away by spynovelfan's heroic investigative journalism.
And as I have now seen Mr. Asterix' rendering of the PFO cover, I can honestly say that Evan is a genius, genius, genius. Thanks to you both for the contributions to fandom, scholarship and the arts. ![]() ![]() 'It reads better than it lives.' |
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Commander Group: Veterans Enlisted: 31 August 2003 |
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Don't have the magazine yet, but from the CBn article, and the discussion thread in the Literature section, I am already blown away by spynovelfan's heroic investigative journalism. And as I have now seen Mr. Asterix' rendering of the PFO cover, I can honestly say that Evan is a genius, genius, genius. Thanks to you both for the contributions to fandom, scholarship and the arts. That's putting it mildly Bon-San, but I second the motion, motion carried! Jeremy Duns' work as an investigative James Bond Journalist is without peer in the history of Bond fandom (well, with the exception of John Cork!). He should be carried aloft by Bond fans in a sedan chair. At the very least. Seriously, I cannot remember a time when an article (in the magazine and on the net) has shed so much light on a subject previously hidden in plain sight. And Evan Willnow's stunning creation of a dust jacket for this gem in the style of Richard Chopping is nothing less than Art with a capital "A". ![]() N = R* x fp x ne x fl x fi x fc x (1 + nr) x fm x L
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Commander CMG Group: Veterans Enlisted: 3 May 2004 |
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Thanks, all.
I think Evan's dustjacket is stunning, and the more I look at it the better it gets. The story of how he did it is fascinating, too. I'm in awe of his talent, and immensely grateful to him. And, not to make this too much of a sickening love-in This little snippet I nearly missed completely, because I initially thought it had been inspired by YOLT and didn't really think it through. I suddenly twigged one day that it had been published the year before! ![]() |
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Commander RNVR Group: Commanding Officers Enlisted: 18 September 2002 From: USA |
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Thanks, all. This little snippet I nearly missed completely, because I initially thought it had been inspired by YOLT and didn't really think it through. I suddenly twigged one day that it had been published the year before! According to Rubin, Dahl was working on the YOLT script in Dec 65. Harold Jack Bloom was working on it before that. I know you weren't accusing anyone of borrowing anything - just noting a rather amazing coincedence. Based on the letter that Jenkins sent to the accountant - I would assume the manuscript was completed and at least a synopsis was sent to 20th Century in January or February. So that it appears that the idea of fake burial at sea were sprung in two writers on different continents approximately around the same time, though I would certainly grant that book development, with it's editorial process takes much longer than script development, and that Jenkins most likely had the idea first. What I wonder if there was some news item or event that might have happened that possibly sparked two people to come up with the similar idea in that time period. I haven't examined any early YOLT drafts so I can't tell you if Bloom or Dahl or some other writer came up with the idea on the Eon side. ![]() ![]() |
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Commander CMG Group: Veterans Enlisted: 3 May 2004 |
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I know you weren't accusing anyone of borrowing anything - just noting a rather amazing coincedence. Indeed. I just found it fascinating. And I think it shows that Jenkins was capable of coming up with very Bond-ish - and filmable - ideas. ![]() |
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Midshipman Group: Crew Enlisted: 23 February 2002 |
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Seriously, I cannot remember a time when an article (in the magazine and on the net) has shed so much light on a subject previously hidden in plain sight. Can't really add more than that ! All of us that enjoy the literary side of Bond owe a great debt to Mr. Duns for his tireless work on this subject - I wish him every success in his efforts to track down a complete version of PFO. ![]() Reality leaves a lot to the imagination.
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Sub-Lieutenant Group: Crew Enlisted: 2 July 2005 |
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A wonderful, very informative article. What I would give to read a full verion of Per Fine Ounce! Like the name too.
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Commander RNVR Group: Commanding Officers Enlisted: 30 August 2001 From: A secret hollowed out volcano in Sydney (33.79294� South, 150.93805� East) |
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The Spy Wise Blog has also posted an article on Jenkins, Peace and Per Fine Ounce.
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Commander Group: Veterans Enlisted: 29 June 2004 From: Germany |
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Thanks for the tip! A most intriguing story that offers an all new perspective if Jenkins own creation was to be continuated now. And still the hunt is on for some 300 missing pages of 'Per Fine Ounce'. Judging by this article the hope is still alive to finally salvage a complete manuscript from one or several archives and publish it in a bowdlerized version. Definitely a feat for all lit-Bond fans if this attempt should succeed!
![]() "Its better to travel hopefully than to arrive."
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Midshipman Group: Crew Enlisted: 19 September 2007 From: London |
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A great article.
I'm always slightly surprised Per Fine Ounce is still such a mystery. You would have thought that in the days of the internet somebody would have leaked it. Perhaps it is too securely locked away in Fleming's lair hidden in a volcano. Would like to read it anyway and hope it sees the light of day soon - it certainly seems to deserve it. |
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Commander Group: Veterans Enlisted: 14 October 2007 From: North Smithfield, RI, USA |
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I wish we could smuggle it out; what a dashing tale that'd be...
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Once when you're born And once when you look death in the face. --Ian Fleming |
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Lt. Commander Group: Veterans Enlisted: 17 April 2002 |
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I wish we could smuggle it out; what a dashing tale that'd be... I wonder how someone can get a copy of the 18 pages in existance...... ![]() |
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Commander Group: Veterans Enlisted: 14 October 2007 From: North Smithfield, RI, USA |
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I wish we could smuggle it out; what a dashing tale that'd be... I wonder how someone can get a copy of the 18 pages in existance...... They'd have to be Jenkins' literary executor, I suppose... ![]() You only live twice:
Once when you're born And once when you look death in the face. --Ian Fleming |
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Commander Group: Veterans Enlisted: 21 April 2004 From: Sweden |
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In the matter of PFO I have a feeling it doesn't excist anymore and I don't think it will ever appear in public. Sorry. But of course I hope I'm wrong. Holy grail. Yes.
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Lt. Commander Group: Veterans Enlisted: 23 November 2004 |
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At the time of Jeremy Duns' "Per Fine Ounce" publication inb KKBB, I speculated with him why Jenkins - after having been given the run-around by Glidrose and ultimately beiong rejected - didn't simply publish PFO now "starring" Geoffrey Peace. I think the conclusion was that Jenkins was so fed-up with the whole Bond project, he couldn't be bothered. A pity.
While seeing the name "Geoffrey Peace" in the text where it should say "James Bond" wouldn't bother me if it meant PFO saw the light of day, having read Jenkins and both the Peace novels, I do think this article is overly optimistic in the possibilites of a Peace continuation novel. Sadly, both the Peace and Jenkins name do not appear to have a sufficient cache to resurface in the 21st Century. |
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Commander Group: Veterans Enlisted: 7 January 2007 From: Toronto, ON, Canada |
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So some of you have read eight pages of PFO in KKBB? What were they like? Is that issue still available?
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Commander Group: Veterans Enlisted: 21 April 2004 From: Sweden |
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QUOTE I speculated with him why Jenkins - after having been given the run-around by Glidrose and ultimately beiong rejected - didn't simply publish PFO now "starring" Geoffrey Peace. I have had the thought too, and some comments had indicated that it didn't was good enough. Maybe Jenkins didn't believed in it either and only used some fragments of it in various books. In other case, why wouldn't he just switch the name from James Bond to Geoffrey Peace? |
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